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20 Oct 2012, 5:01 pm
Taverson wrote:
Shatbat wrote:
I dunno, there exists people who truly enjoy sex for the sake of sex, and the pleasurable physical sensations that they get from it, and those would benefit from casual sex or even an escort. That would definitely not do it to me, but lately I've been thinking that stuff like that is just the way each of us are wired, which deserves neither praise nor shame. Different people need different things, that's all.
That's dangerous thinking. Are you really sure you want to open that can of worms?
Well, right now I haven't got much to do, and this issue has been spinning in my mind these days, so actually, I do
. Is it that bad of a can of worms?
20 Oct 2012, 5:02 pm
Shatbat wrote:
Taverson wrote:
Shatbat wrote:
I dunno, there exists people who truly enjoy sex for the sake of sex, and the pleasurable physical sensations that they get from it, and those would benefit from casual sex or even an escort. That would definitely not do it to me, but lately I've been thinking that stuff like that is just the way each of us are wired, which deserves neither praise nor shame. Different people need different things, that's all.
That's dangerous thinking. Are you really sure you want to open that can of worms?
Well, right now I haven't got much to do, and this issue has been spinning in my mind these days, so actually, I do
. Is it that bad of a can of worms?It could be a can of hook worms or pinworms.
20 Oct 2012, 5:07 pm
Shatbat wrote:
Taverson wrote:
Shatbat wrote:
I dunno, there exists people who truly enjoy sex for the sake of sex, and the pleasurable physical sensations that they get from it, and those would benefit from casual sex or even an escort. That would definitely not do it to me, but lately I've been thinking that stuff like that is just the way each of us are wired, which deserves neither praise nor shame. Different people need different things, that's all.
That's dangerous thinking. Are you really sure you want to open that can of worms?
Well, right now I haven't got much to do, and this issue has been spinning in my mind these days, so actually, I do
. Is it that bad of a can of worms?If being "wired" in a certain way "deserves neither praise nor shame" and "different people need different things"...
A lot of people have used that argument to try to justify their own disgusting acts of sexual crime.
I know that's not what you were referring to, but you simply worded it in such a naive way that I sincerely hope you don't believe it in that same naive way.
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20 Oct 2012, 5:23 pm
Taverson wrote:
If being "wired" in a certain way "deserves neither praise nor shame" and "different people need different things"...
A lot of people have used that argument to try to justify their own disgusting acts of sexual crime.
I know that's not what you were referring to, but you simply worded it in such a naive way that I sincerely hope you don't believe it in that same naive way.
A lot of people have used that argument to try to justify their own disgusting acts of sexual crime.
I know that's not what you were referring to, but you simply worded it in such a naive way that I sincerely hope you don't believe it in that same naive way.
Oh I get what you mean now. I guess I should be more specific with what I meant then. I've noticed that some people have got an attitude of disgust against [EDIT: the people who engage in (if you don't like it, you don't like it, but no need to take it on the people who do)] casual sex; saying that people who engage in it should "grow up", "stop behaving like animals (fun fact: a lot of animals have sex purely for reproduction; in that respect we're worse than animals
)" while in the end, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with it. Some of the cases it comes from a morality that comes from culture or religion, which should be questioned, or it is also possible that the person saying that sincerely thinks having sex with an stranger is disgusting. But for some people, men and woman alike, it is not, and they shouldn't be made feel bad because of it, I believe that a pair of consenting adults can do whatever they want if nobody gets hurt in the process. Also, some of the people who frown upon casual sex for the second reason, also take the moral high ground, saying that they only have sex with people they are close with. Is there something intrinsically right with that, too? I don't really think so.
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20 Oct 2012, 5:34 pm
Shatbat wrote:
Taverson wrote:
If being "wired" in a certain way "deserves neither praise nor shame" and "different people need different things"...
A lot of people have used that argument to try to justify their own disgusting acts of sexual crime.
I know that's not what you were referring to, but you simply worded it in such a naive way that I sincerely hope you don't believe it in that same naive way.
A lot of people have used that argument to try to justify their own disgusting acts of sexual crime.
I know that's not what you were referring to, but you simply worded it in such a naive way that I sincerely hope you don't believe it in that same naive way.
Oh I get what you mean now. I guess I should be more specific with what I meant then. I've noticed that some people have got an attitude of disgust against casual sex; saying that people who engage in it should "grow up", "stop behaving like animals (fun fact: a lot of animals have sex purely for reproduction; in that respect we're worse than animals
)" while in the end, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with it. Some of the cases it comes from a morality that comes from culture or religion, which should be questioned, or it is also possible that the person saying that sincerely thinks having sex with an stranger is disgusting. But for some people, men and woman alike, it is not, and they shouldn't be made feel bad because of it, I believe that a pair of consenting adults can do whatever they want if nobody gets hurt in the process. Also, some of the people who frown upon casual sex for the second reason, also take the moral high ground, saying that they only have sex with people they are close with. Is there something intrinsically right with that, too? I don't really think so.Agreed. Without bringing religion or culture into it, it becomes a matter of personal preference. The problem is there's a lot of disgust either way - people disgusted by those who make their decision religious/cultural-based and people disgusted by those who just pursue casual sex.
For me, I feel my love would be cheapened if I spread it among too many people. And I couldn't have sex without being truly in love with the person or I'd feel so terribly guilty.
I guess I view it as having respect for the woman I will eventually fall in love with. Even though I haven't met her.
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21 Oct 2012, 11:47 am
Parthenophthoraphobia?
Yeah I just made it up, and I know nothing about Greek grammar, but that one sort of makes sense.
