Why do women care so much about a mans height?

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20 Oct 2017, 4:46 pm

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I don’t get where the statistic of fewer men are going to university came from. Seems pretty balanced /shrug.

Unemployed people tend to breed like rabbits, more so than career people, people seem to over look this constantly; it proves them wrong.

People want to so badly believe that it’s not them with the problem.

Aspergers puts us on the bottom rung of the ladder. So yes, a fit aspie expecting a fit girl may have to deal with the fact fit NTs are fighting for the fit girl, too.

Someone “equal” to you in looks is unlikely to be “equal” to you overall.

Even when I was thinner and better looking, I fell way, way behind NT girls who were average looking to unattractive.

That’s life. The whole package is what people want. Aspies are often a few ribbons short of a package.


In don't care if I'm considered undesirable to NT society.

Screw em.

Why do .some of the aspie women here consider aspie men undesirable?

There are plenty of examples in this very thread.

When even a persons own kind doesn't want them, who does?

I'll be one of those guys who doesn't care what society thinks of them even if it drastically reduces my desirability to the opposite sex but. My god, where are the rebellious non conformist women since some of the aspie some here don't seem to think different than NT women.

Yeah yeah if I'm going to be a.nonconformist I can expect 99% of women to not want to date me but where's the 0.01%? Do they even exist?

And as for people.not blaming themselves, ever stop to think it may be BAD for yheir mental.health and self esteem?

I can imagine a depressed person who blames themselves for everything will make themselves feel worse which will make them more negative, which will make them make.more.mistakes, then blame themselves some.more, making themselves feel worse. A vicious cycle to be in which requires therapy.

From.what I've seen Sly hates himself, his self esteem.is horribly low. Will saying "Its all my fault . Everything bad that ever happens to.me is, I choose to feel.miserable, I'm so weak, I'm a loser, Im lazy and choose the easy way out . It's all my fault" going to help or harm him? This all.might be true. But other people reminding them all the time isn't going to help either. It is therapy that would help.


Blaming other people does not help with your mental health either. How about blaming no one, and simply taking some responsibility for your situation?

Struggling? Seek a therapist.
Suicidal? Call the crisis hotline. It helps. I know that.
Can’t cope with mental health issues? Trial medication until you find one that’s right for you.
Unhappy with your situation? Have a serious think about what you can change. Other people won’t change. The way you deal with it has to.
Don’t understand why it’s happening? Self reflect, think outside the box and use your common sense.

Other people are not responsible for you. You are. Yes, they appear to screw your life up at times, but it’s your life. Only you can fix it.



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20 Oct 2017, 4:59 pm

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^ Reasonable unemployed men usually don't get married nor breed children.

Now if you are talking about illiterate unemployed refugees or some poorly educated farmers in a remote area, their world is totally different than us, their women's expectations are totally different - these often breed children because they don't even know how to prevent that.

You can't expect unemployed yet fairly educated (at least high school level) men from middle-class uprising, living in an urban (or even rural) middle-class area to live like those.


Oooooooh yes ya can. Depends though. There is poverty stricken, low class, middle class, upper middle class, upper class, and arisocrat.

Even if some people aren’t smart enough not to breed when they cannot afford it, the point remains, they can still get woman.

Saying working class men can’t get women because “women only care about men with good jobs and money to take them on overseas holidays” is laughable.

I say Sly has no idea of reality apart from his own tiny bubble of very limited experience because it’s the truth.


You are not taking into account the community circumstances where one is living, lemme give you a concrete example:

An illiterate or poorly educated guy in a community of farmers, in a backward remote area or a very poor 3rd world country, can by far easily 'get a woman' (because their community do arranged marriages -And they will breed a lot of kids, because they need more workers , and they don't even know how to use condoms or pills) than let's say, an educated unemployed man or low-job employed man in a city who isn't part of a such community but lives among an urban community where social expectations and economical needs are totally different.

You can't simply compare the two and tell the city guy "Look, these fishermen in that island are working class like you yet they can get women and breed like rabbits".


I was actually thinking of westerners when I wrote that.


I don't think westerners are that homogeneous and totaly industrious.
Don't you have craft communities of fishermen, farmers, .... ? Ghettos of some sort?



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20 Oct 2017, 5:03 pm

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^ Reasonable unemployed men usually don't get married nor breed children.

Now if you are talking about illiterate unemployed refugees or some poorly educated farmers in a remote area, their world is totally different than us, their women's expectations are totally different - these often breed children because they don't even know how to prevent that.

You can't expect unemployed yet fairly educated (at least high school level) men from middle-class uprising, living in an urban (or even rural) middle-class area to live like those.


Oooooooh yes ya can. Depends though. There is poverty stricken, low class, middle class, upper middle class, upper class, and arisocrat.

Even if some people aren’t smart enough not to breed when they cannot afford it, the point remains, they can still get woman.

Saying working class men can’t get women because “women only care about men with good jobs and money to take them on overseas holidays” is laughable.

I say Sly has no idea of reality apart from his own tiny bubble of very limited experience because it’s the truth.


You are not taking into account the community circumstances where one is living, lemme give you a concrete example:

An illiterate or poorly educated guy in a community of farmers, in a backward remote area or a very poor 3rd world country, can by far easily 'get a woman' (because their community do arranged marriages -And they will breed a lot of kids, because they need more workers , and they don't even know how to use condoms or pills) than let's say, an educated unemployed man or low-job employed man in a city who isn't part of a such community but lives among an urban community where social expectations and economical needs are totally different.

You can't simply compare the two and tell the city guy "Look, these fishermen in that island are working class like you yet they can get women and breed like rabbits".


I was actually thinking of westerners when I wrote that.


I don't think westerners are that homogeneous and totaly industrious.
Don't you have craft communities of fishermen, farmers, .... ? Ghettos of some sort?


Ghettos here are very like regular middle class people. There is a lot of government support for unemployed people. They don't have enough money to own houses or cars, but apart from that, they are really just integrating into a middle class community. Even if they live in poverty, it doesn't seem to affect them getting into relationships. I don't think intelligence is really an issue, the point was, even poor people are able to get into relationships.

Backward remote areas that are completely isolated are a bit different, these people usually end up being inbred, like very very far north, but they certainly don't make up 98% of people.



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20 Oct 2017, 5:07 pm

To be honest, I understand most people here have had a bloody raw deal with the cards of life. It's not bloody easy, it's grossly difficult to live day by day.

The point is, blaming people is not constructive. Don't even blame yourself, just try to take a bit of responsibility for yourself. Private therapists are a great idea, it's confidential and you don't end up making a sideshow on an internet message board.

The frustration comes from whenever someone tries to suggest something useful, they get shot down pretty quickly. "There's no xx in xx" "I can't xx" "I won't xx", and unless you live in an area which the face of boo describes, it's extremely hard to believe. It's like no-one wants to take some responsibility to try and improve it, they just want people to blame, which, in turn, will not help the situation, it will make it worse.

If you can't afford a therapist, try writing out all your frustrations and burning it. It might help. I do that from time to time. Friends blab, Family blabs, Workmates blab, internet people blab, and all four of these groups judge. Combustion never blabs and never judges.

I don't believe any of the people here complaining are weak people. Not even sly. If I did I would be saying "oh poor you, yes hate women, how dare they" which will only increase his mood temporarily, and over time it will just increase his anger and he will continue into a downward spiral. I just think they need to take that extra step to try and get past letting people who reject them destroy them. It's not easy. It's not fun. I am still battling with it, bi monthly self hate and suicide planning severe meltdowns etc, a lot of tears and depression. I also have borderline personality disorder, which means even the slightest negative emotion from people destroys me. But I have to help myself. You can do it. Noone else will do it for you.



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21 Oct 2017, 3:53 am

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Unresolved daddy issues.


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21 Oct 2017, 6:08 am

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I don’t get where the statistic of fewer men are going to university came from. Seems pretty balanced /shrug.

Unemployed people tend to breed like rabbits, more so than career people, people seem to over look this constantly; it proves them wrong.

People want to so badly believe that it’s not them with the problem.

Aspergers puts us on the bottom rung of the ladder. So yes, a fit aspie expecting a fit girl may have to deal with the fact fit NTs are fighting for the fit girl, too.

Someone “equal” to you in looks is unlikely to be “equal” to you overall.

Even when I was thinner and better looking, I fell way, way behind NT girls who were average looking to unattractive.

That’s life. The whole package is what people want. Aspies are often a few ribbons short of a package.


Awww crap, no wonder I'm doing badly in life and love :(


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22 Oct 2017, 3:17 am

I wonder about this too.
It seems everyone, not just women, consider taller = better. Why?
I once dated a dude who was bloody 6'5 and it was a nightmare. We looked ridiculous together - he looked mutantly ginormous and I looked tiny, just because of the discrepancy in our heights, where otherwise, only his height was unusual. Plus I drove a hatchback. :twisted:
I think this is a sexist gender-role thing I'm not privy to.
And for the record, him being big didn't automatically equal a huge penis. It was average - that was one of the few upsides. If his penis had been as oversized as the rest of him, it wasn't coming near me.


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22 Oct 2017, 8:14 am

I’m 1.98m (6’6”), and I find tall women attractive.



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22 Oct 2017, 2:33 pm

C2V wrote:
I wonder about this too.
It seems everyone, not just women, consider taller = better. Why?
I once dated a dude who was bloody 6'5 and it was a nightmare. We looked ridiculous together - he looked mutantly ginormous and I looked tiny, just because of the discrepancy in our heights, where otherwise, only his height was unusual. Plus I drove a hatchback. :twisted:
I think this is a sexist gender-role thing I'm not privy to.
And for the record, him being big didn't automatically equal a huge penis. It was average - that was one of the few upsides. If his penis had been as oversized as the rest of him, it wasn't coming near me.

Women like tall men, men like short women, it’s natural I suppose. I certainly would prefer a tiny woman. Like 5’. I wouldn’t be against a woman as tall as me though, but they rare. And generally want a man taller then them. I’ve met two in my life. Most women I’ve met are 5’-5’7” so quite cute and attractive. Plus tall guy short woman couples are so cute. Like how she stands in her toes and he squats to kiss each other or women standing in stools to kiss their guy. I realize it’s highly impractical in daily life and makes sex hard, but I still find myself super attracted to short women. It’s biological. But I don’t list that women must be 5’7” or less to dat me lol. End of the day besides her being attractive in the face for me, I only care about her personality and similar interests. Nothing else matters to me. Though I might find it hard to date a woman 4’ As that’s would be bad on my back.



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23 Oct 2017, 8:37 am

C2V wrote:
I wonder about this too.
It seems everyone, not just women, consider taller = better. Why?


I think because in kindergarten/primary school and early high school our superiors (teachers/adults) are taller than us. We look up to them as our leaders, protectors, role models.... advisors on life.

The kids 1, 2+ years below us are smaller than us, and we associate smaller height with "less than us".

And then the media associates male heroism, desirability and attractiveness with tall height. I think Michael Keaton was the smallest Batman and he wasn't even short, more medium at 5'9". Just not tall.

Girls who only love tall men either have daddy issues or they grew up witnessing the smaller boys being teased and ostracised which made them unpopular. Or they grew up in toxic violent ghetto's where small guys that didn't look like they could fight off bigger boys were made lower status. Young girls don't wanna be seen dating the unpopular short guy as they worry what others would think of them, making themselves feel marginalized. They aim to be in the "in crowd" or "it girl crowd" to raise their status among peers by getting the tall athlete hot boy. It's a hive mind or lack of independent thinking.


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23 Oct 2017, 1:55 pm

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Girls who only love tall men either have daddy issues


Assuming women who have preferences which don’t match what you are makes them damaged is going a bit far.

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or they grew up witnessing the smaller boys being teased and ostracised which made them unpopular.


Again, you’re self projecting. A lot of short kids are cheeky as and can hold their own.

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Or they grew up in toxic violent ghetto's where small guys that didn't look like they could fight off bigger boys were made lower status.


LOL whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

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Young girls don't wanna be seen dating the unpopular short guy as they worry what others would think of them, making themselves feel marginalized. They aim to be in the "in crowd" or "it girl crowd" to raise their status among peers by getting the tall athlete hot boy. It's a hive mind or lack of independent thinking.


Again, it might be true about being in the in crowds, but quite frankly height has very little to do with that. Usually it’s just people who are good at sports.

Could it just be possible that women like what they’re attracted to? I guess not, as you cannot blame the woman for that. :roll:



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24 Oct 2017, 1:41 am

I was talking to this cute girl yesterday and she said she's attracted to my height :)


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24 Oct 2017, 7:23 am

^ See, I just find that really weird.
As for short people, it's a catch 22 - anyone who is short and can handle themselves gets accused of "Napoleon Syndrome," as if they're deliberately compensating because they have a problem with their own height.
It's like everyone automatically assumes that anyone who is fat dislikes being fat and wants to be thin.
It's just incorrect. Some people are fine with being fat.
Some short people are fine with being short. Some tall people dislike being tall because it makes them stick out, or makes them awkward - some like it.
I don't get the whole thing. Who cares?


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24 Oct 2017, 9:17 am

I think people assume short men are weak characters and can't handle themselves? Have you not noticed a large portion of women assume tall men can "kick ass" and handle themselves even if they are spindly?


The female need for tall men has its origins in intra-male conflict and dominance struggles.


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24 Oct 2017, 9:33 am

Someone here who returned recently had always accused me of being Napoleon Syndrome (*wink* you know who you are).



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24 Oct 2017, 9:50 am

I stick by my point that I think the average height of 5'9 range for white males has increased here in the UK. I'm 177.6cm (5'10) out of bed, falling to 176.5cm (5'9 1/2) by night, but at least 65% of guys at college were taller than me. And that was 20 years ago or more. I was 175cm (5'9 flat) at age 21. I was called short quite a lot.

Yet here in my middle stage of life, without a doubt I am in the 30% with about 70% of the white guys under 45 I come across are taller. I have never seen anywhere like it except in Scandinavia, Holland, Germany and some other European countries I have visited. In Italy I felt average.

I think guys around my height (5'8 > 5'10) or slightly less should try Cowboy Boots. They might help you a bit to feel better than wearing flats.

Paul Hogan (Crocodile Dundee) was about 5'8.5 and pulled off the cowboy boots and lean ripped build well. Certainly carried himself well.


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