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10 Mar 2022, 6:41 pm

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You know, its possible that some of them might be okay financially, just wanting to live in the West. A lot of educated folks want to leave and go elsewhere.


With the rise of white nationalism and gun violence, I can't see how any educated person would want to come to this country. Canada or Europe are significantly better options.


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Its already too late no matter what I do.


Then why bother with this thread stating problems and constraints if you have no interest in resolving & overcoming them? :?

Further, it’s only too late if you convince yourself such & believe what you think while severely depressed.


No woman wants to date or marry a man 15 years older than her. That fact is beyond my control.


That is not a fact.

Next bs to refute, please. 8)


Well, no woman I've ever met does. And many have expressed outright disgust with just the idea of it.

My understanding is that women who do like older men are looking for a Sugar Daddy.

Older men can be handsome and charismatic. Of course a touch of wealth never hurts, that's just common sense without any nefarious reason behind it.



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10 Mar 2022, 7:12 pm

according to einstein, "Common sense is nothing more than a deposit of prejudices laid down in the mind before you reach eighteen."



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10 Mar 2022, 7:24 pm

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Older men can be handsome and charismatic.


Correction: Older neurotypical men can be handsome and charismatic.



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10 Mar 2022, 7:26 pm

Many women happen not to like "charismatic" men.

I certainly don't have any "charisma."

They do usually like "handsome" men, though. And I'm not particularly "handsome," either.



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10 Mar 2022, 7:31 pm

they sure went for manson. who was ugly as a stump. yet somehow he did it.



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10 Mar 2022, 7:57 pm

Manson was even shorter than I am.



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10 Mar 2022, 8:10 pm

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they sure went for manson. who was ugly as a stump. yet somehow he did it.

Energy and charisma.



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10 Mar 2022, 8:24 pm

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Older men can be handsome and charismatic.


Correction: Older neurotypical men can be handsome and charismatic.


I can be handsome and charismatic. 8)


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10 Mar 2022, 8:26 pm

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Everyone else got to have fun at least at some point in their live, but I never did.

Why should I have to face reality and move on when nobody else had to?


I had intercourse less than 5 times in my life.
It was a great disappointment.
"Is that it?" :mrgreen:
It wasn't something I am into and have a major philosophical problem with doing the nasty.
I have been with women but haven't rubbed wee wees for over 20 years. :mrgreen:
And vow never to do it again. 8O

Personally, as someone else said, people make too much about it.
Intercourse is an anti-climatic (pun intended) and a f*****g joke (pun intended), *imo*.
Society simply makes too much about it.

As Shakespeare said, "Much to do about nothing". ;)
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/muc ... thing.html


You say that sex was disappointing for you. But then you on and on about how you never liked even the idea of it to begin with.


Its already too late no matter what I do.


I gave it a shot and it was found wanting.
What can I say? ;)

You do realise lust is only a result of evolutionary programming, as is "luv".



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10 Mar 2022, 8:32 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
dorkseid wrote:
Its already too late no matter what I do.


Then why bother with this thread stating problems and constraints if you have no interest in resolving & overcoming them? :?

Further, it’s only too late if you convince yourself such & believe what you think while severely depressed.


We have also established, here and in other posts by other people, that people are often too choosey.
There is a definite double standard, here.

There have been hardcore incels that have been very open about this, not saying anyone here is one.



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10 Mar 2022, 8:33 pm

dorkseid wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
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Its already too late no matter what I do.


Then why bother with this thread stating problems and constraints if you have no interest in resolving & overcoming them? :?

Further, it’s only too late if you convince yourself such & believe what you think while severely depressed.


No woman wants to date or marry a man 15 years older than her. That fact is beyond my control.


Change your expectations?



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10 Mar 2022, 8:48 pm

dorkseid wrote:
r00tb33r wrote:
You know, its possible that some of them might be okay financially, just wanting to live in the West. A lot of educated folks want to leave and go elsewhere.


With the rise of white nationalism and gun violence, I can't see how any educated person would want to come to this country. Canada or Europe are significantly better options.


goldfish21 wrote:
dorkseid wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
dorkseid wrote:
Its already too late no matter what I do.


Then why bother with this thread stating problems and constraints if you have no interest in resolving & overcoming them? :?

Further, it’s only too late if you convince yourself such & believe what you think while severely depressed.


No woman wants to date or marry a man 15 years older than her. That fact is beyond my control.


That is not a fact.

Next bs to refute, please. 8)


Well, no woman I've ever met does. And many have expressed outright disgust with just the idea of it.

My understanding is that women whío do like older men are looking for a Sugar Daddy.


Goldfish is right, it's bs. I'm not rich, far from it, and my partner of 3 years is significantly younger. As have been several other short- or long-term partners (including in the US and Europe, before you claim it's because I'm in a non-Western country). Also, some have been older than me. The point is, age is not as important as you think.


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10 Mar 2022, 9:08 pm

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You do realise lust is only a result of evolutionary programming, as is "luv".


As is every other aspects of our very existence, so what's your point?

The will to survive is only a result of our evolutionary programming. So by your logic, I should just starve myself to death.

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We have also established, here and in other posts by other people, that people are often too choosey.
There is a definite double standard, here.


Not really. I admit that I don't want to settle for someone I'm not attracted to, so I completely understand when women don't want to either. My point is that if I'm so universally repulsive, what reason do I have to feel good about myself?

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Change your expectations?


What's the point of changing my expectations to someone I find nothing about appealing.

I've already tried dating an ugly woman I liked nothing about. And it ended up being the biggest regret of my entire life.



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10 Mar 2022, 9:33 pm

there are many of us here who are universally considered undesirable at best. one can at least take some cold comfort from that fact, that one is not alone in their suffering.



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10 Mar 2022, 9:42 pm

Is posting here about how you're doomed and how you'll never find a romantic partner really benefiting you in any way?

The way you feel is completely understandable given your situation, and taking some time to talk about your anguish is reasonable, but if you're not even open to the possibility that there's anything you can do to improve your chances of finding someone, and you're not willing to make any effort towards improving your chances, then there's nowhere productive for this conversation to go.

So if this is the case, what do you stand to gain from making post after post about your situation?



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10 Mar 2022, 9:55 pm

auntblabby wrote:
there are many of us here who are universally considered undesirable at best. one can at least take some cold comfort from that fact, that one is not alone in their suffering.


Some have it better.
And some have it worse.
Most people simply accept reality and do the best they can with the cards dealt them.

I'd rather be where I am now than trapped in Ukraine looking at my dead wife and child, as an example