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28 Dec 2008, 11:42 pm
starvingartist wrote:
Abangyarudo wrote:
starvingartist wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
ephemerella after reading your posts you come across a bit narcissistic. Sorry 
Anyway that doesn't matter it should make for some more interesting threads.
If you have things that you want to talk about, quit complaining and make some threads.
Anyway that doesn't matter it should make for some more interesting threads.
If you have things that you want to talk about, quit complaining and make some threads.why does everyone assume that if you make a statement about having a high IQ, that automatically means you are arrogant about the fact? ephemerella never made any statement that stated or inferred that she felt she was better than others in regards to her IQ, only that she wished to discus topics of shared interest with those of similar characteristics like high IQ and a high level of functioning. this is not a judgment. any judgment inferred is due to the readers bias towards those of higher intelligence. i am not insecure about my intelligence, so i didn't see this post as derogatory or arrogant at all. she was merely stating a numerical fact (her IQ score happens to be higher than mine.....from this i do not infer either that she believes she is better than me, or that i believe she is better than me for having a higher IQ. it's just a number.) people are too sensitive about this issue. they see "IQ" and instantly the claws come out and it ceases to be a rational discussion and turns into a muddy mess of everyone's insecurities.
....which i believe was sort of the point of the original OP. am i wrong?
not really she just believes in responses related to maturity she uses IQ as a measurement in maturity which doesn't work. Furthermore she shows a feeling of superiorirty over people who usually post in this section at different times she called them whiners, vagrants , and jerks. Later she calls them predeators , antifemminists, and stalkers. She bragged so much about her intelligence (which is a transitory number if you take different iq tests you get different results on one IQ test I got 160 on one and 140 on others as well as going much lower on others.) What IQ is really supposed to measure it doesn't come close to measuring since there have been people who currently cannot use IQ in an intelligent fashion(be able to gain more knoweldge, use it effectively, or use abstract reasoning).
Furthermore the point is currently from her posts we can gather that all people who are not in her iq range or who don't fit her profile are virgins or worse. Thats the problem we have with her I have posted in the lvoe and dating section and quite frankly I lost my virginity at 14 does when I lose my virginity show any correlation with how well I did in relationships? Well not really. Does a high IQ score mean I'm a mature person? Nope on that note too. RReally the person with claws coming out is the OP who needs to learn to treat people with the respect that she expects while tearing everyone down.
i just really feel that a lot of people are reading personal insults in the original post which was not there. people have biases that they are not aware of, including myself, but no one is taking this into consideration when responding to her post. sometimes it really is pointless. i think people just want to feel insulted by her because she is so obviously extremely intelligent, and people can be petty and jealous, ESPECIALLY when it comes to intelligence. so many people are hateful towards intelligent people, and if you have not experienced this bias and hatefulness then you will not understand what i'm talking about. i have been the recipient of hatred my whole life, just for being a good student, always getting A's, always getting the highest mark in the class....do you have any idea how many times a fellow student has asked me "so how did you do on ____ (whatever exam, paper, test, project, etc)?" only to tell me"i hate you. why do you always have to be so good at everything? you're a brown-noser anyway. teacher's pet. etc etc etc" when i tell them that i did well. people are just full of hate. it is disgusting and dispiriting.
I couldn't care less how intellegent she say's she was, I don't feel threatened by people more intelligent than me. I usually listen and have a lot of respect people with higher intelligence.
I just found her annoyed that she was dismissive of other people and put herself above other them, with also going on about how intellegent she was made her sound a bit narcissitic.
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29 Dec 2008, 12:58 am
Zane wrote:
Just because you also have had problems with men does not validate your opinions of "all" men, that is just as much of a generalization
And the reality hits the floor...Honestly I hate it when woman have problems with men and take it out on innocent males. Life sucks and when s**t hits the fan move on and try not to bleed your heart all over me.
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29 Dec 2008, 1:29 am
Zane wrote:
Airborne wrote:
And the reality hits the floor...Honestly I hate it when woman have problems with men and take it out on innocent males. Life sucks and when sh** hits the fan move on and try not to bleed your heart all over me.
I love the visual imagry Air man. Have you considered writing as a career? It may not be glroious or pay all the bills but it certainly can get you girlfriends, respect, and rent money Eh..writing is enjoyable for me I really like it but I am set on joining the US Army (planning on West Point), that too hasnt got pretty pay but I get to serve my country and Ill look damn fine in dress uniform, plus thats something even the most arrogant can respect.
29 Dec 2008, 4:25 am
Shiggily wrote:
starvingartist wrote:
Shiggily wrote:
Hector wrote:
Shiggily wrote:
Or as one of my professors in math told me (yes I am referencing math, I am sorry it applies)... It doesn't matter if you are crazy, gay, straight, white, black, man, woman, or alien... your ideas should stand alone.
It's a nice thought but a naive one. Women are not on level terms with men in most academic disciplines, especially I would think a male-dominated one such as mathematics. That's not to say that sexism is the cause of male dominance in mathematics, I'm sure it's not, but it still poses problems for aspiring or current female mathematicians.
Shiggily wrote:
though that doesn't seem to happen much in today's society. We seem to dismiss ideas based on irrelevant facts about the person offering the ideas. Instead of evaluating the ideas, we evaluate the person.
That's how it's always been. When people have second thoughts about their own judgments of others, such as "am I thinking this because of the colour of his skin", that's good. It's when unfair prejudices are silent and acceptable that they are truly dangerous. All the more reason why "feminism" shouldn't be a dirty word and people should still look out for signs of sexual prejudice, even in the United States.
Part of the unevenness in mathematics is because women are not interested in math. None of my professors were concerned with me being female, though they did comment that it is unusual, since most females do not like math.
If I start a conversation about math and the recipient is male, more often than not they will be slightly more interested in the concepts than if it was a woman. Not sure why, but the coldness, lack of emotion, and austere beauty of mathematics does not seem to appeal to women.
I wish feminism wasn't a dirty word. But is has become so. People should look out for signs of all kinds of prejudices. But I do not think they should try to find things that aren't there to prove their point.
wow. incredibly sweeping statement there. thanks for speaking for me and every other woman, toots. or do you prefer babe? how bout a slap on the ass while we're at it? is that the generation you come from? my god.....women are not interested in math. that's priceless. i'm going to go put my head in the oven now.
they are not. during my time at 6 different colleges I only saw 3 females getting a degree in mathematics and I was one of them. Compared to the 20+ males in each class. Every time I talk to women about math, they say they don't like it. Or they like math, but not beyond the Calculus level. It is so rare to find women studying mathematics. Don't get me wrong... I want more women to study math. It just doesn't seem to be in their general interests.
I when I mean... not interested in math, I mean interested in math at a level to get a Bachelor's and beyond. Not that you love to do multiplication.
I don't know about high degrees in math but most of my math teachers during high school years and university were ladies.
29 Dec 2008, 4:43 am
29 Dec 2008, 5:21 am
LePetitPrince wrote:
Shiggily wrote:
starvingartist wrote:
Shiggily wrote:
Hector wrote:
Shiggily wrote:
Or as one of my professors in math told me (yes I am referencing math, I am sorry it applies)... It doesn't matter if you are crazy, gay, straight, white, black, man, woman, or alien... your ideas should stand alone.
It's a nice thought but a naive one. Women are not on level terms with men in most academic disciplines, especially I would think a male-dominated one such as mathematics. That's not to say that sexism is the cause of male dominance in mathematics, I'm sure it's not, but it still poses problems for aspiring or current female mathematicians.
Shiggily wrote:
though that doesn't seem to happen much in today's society. We seem to dismiss ideas based on irrelevant facts about the person offering the ideas. Instead of evaluating the ideas, we evaluate the person.
That's how it's always been. When people have second thoughts about their own judgments of others, such as "am I thinking this because of the colour of his skin", that's good. It's when unfair prejudices are silent and acceptable that they are truly dangerous. All the more reason why "feminism" shouldn't be a dirty word and people should still look out for signs of sexual prejudice, even in the United States.
Part of the unevenness in mathematics is because women are not interested in math. None of my professors were concerned with me being female, though they did comment that it is unusual, since most females do not like math.
If I start a conversation about math and the recipient is male, more often than not they will be slightly more interested in the concepts than if it was a woman. Not sure why, but the coldness, lack of emotion, and austere beauty of mathematics does not seem to appeal to women.
I wish feminism wasn't a dirty word. But is has become so. People should look out for signs of all kinds of prejudices. But I do not think they should try to find things that aren't there to prove their point.
wow. incredibly sweeping statement there. thanks for speaking for me and every other woman, toots. or do you prefer babe? how bout a slap on the ass while we're at it? is that the generation you come from? my god.....women are not interested in math. that's priceless. i'm going to go put my head in the oven now.
they are not. during my time at 6 different colleges I only saw 3 females getting a degree in mathematics and I was one of them. Compared to the 20+ males in each class. Every time I talk to women about math, they say they don't like it. Or they like math, but not beyond the Calculus level. It is so rare to find women studying mathematics. Don't get me wrong... I want more women to study math. It just doesn't seem to be in their general interests.
I when I mean... not interested in math, I mean interested in math at a level to get a Bachelor's and beyond. Not that you love to do multiplication.
I don't know about high degrees in math but most of my math teachers during high school years and university were ladies.
for high school you do not need more than maybe Calculus.
Otherwise all lower level levels of math are given to non-tenure or non-PhD or just new. Of the 2 math professors I know only one taught upper undergraduate levels of math.
29 Dec 2008, 6:00 am
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