Living with parents kind of puts the kibosh on dating?

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24 Jul 2018, 2:39 am

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I disagree with this notion. Being politically conservative is the one way to put the kibosh on dating.


:lol: No dates for trumpeters! :lol:


(BTW, I didn't vote for either)


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24 Jul 2018, 3:47 am

I'd take sly279's codependent situation any day over the one in which your parents don't need anything from you, so they have all the power and don't need to give a crap about the challenges you face to "launch", and can, in fact make them as hard as they want, because they know you're terrified of being kicked out at any time, becoming homeless. They can make you waste more and more years of your life this way, which is, after all, your fault, since you're an adult and therefore entirely responsible for your successes and failures—but mainly for your failures, because you know full well your successes, if any, you really owe to them, as you'd have never achieved them without their support; you'd just have died homeless on the streets.

My life is undoubtedly a sad and unfulfilled one—sad to me, that is, because what I'm getting is still much better than what I'd have any moral right to expect from my lousy, cowardly behavior. I envy people who left their parents' home at eighteen, never to go back. I still don't know if there was any realistic way for me to make it. Even today, I don't know much about the outside world and hesitate to look for a real job, because it'd most likely be less stable than my current pseudo-job, and might not let me study. Besides, my parents wouldn't appreciate that I ditched the sort of livelihood they found for me with so much effort and so many expenses, so I'd probably be on my own if anything went wrong. On the other hand, even though I want to study, I feel guilty for doing it, knowing it's probably far too late for it to be any use for society, not matter how much I enjoy it.

And the last nail in my dreams' coffin is indeed my moral duty to go back to my parents' home once they can no longer meet their daily needs on their own. It's the absolute least I can do after all they've spent on me—unless, of course, they're so disgusted with me that they refuse my help. I wish I could get some semblance of a career started and have children of my own before that day comes, but time is running out and the odds are massively against me.


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24 Jul 2018, 4:28 am

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I'm sure a few who would otherwise have started doing it like everyone else, never did.


I never masturbated until I was 24. It was because I lived at home until then. I was brought up to think it was shameful/ made you a lesser person.



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24 Jul 2018, 4:35 am

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I'm sure a few who would otherwise have started doing it like everyone else, never did.


I never masturbated until I was 24. It was because I lived at home until then. I was brought up to think it was shameful/ made you a lesser person.


Were your parents really religious?


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24 Jul 2018, 5:16 am

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I never masturbated until I was 24. It was because I lived at home until then. I was brought up to think it was shameful/ made you a lesser person.


That's definitely a shame. And, you know, I'm sure a decent number of your male peers would have given an arm and leg for a chance to earn your trust and help you with that, even if all they did were to lie down with you in bed, cuddling and kissing you, and letting you guide their big, strong and wet fingers down there when you felt ready, and watch you explode. Wait, you need both arms to do all that, don't you?—oh, crap!

It'd be pretty easy to establish a culture in which young people were free to explore their sexuality and well aware of the risks involved in any activity—in particular, none at all if everyone participating is regularly tested for STDs and noöne lets semen enter anyone's vagina—without tolerating any kind of aggression. Of course, it'd require leaving behind once and for all the notion that women are merchandise and sexual experience defiles them. The main, and formidable, obstacle I see, of course, is that most parents won't coöperate. They don't need to and I think they shouldn't be expected to, because the urge to repress the sexuality of those under you is as natural and at least as strong as the one to fulfill your own sexuality. This, of course, is an excellent reason to do whatever it takes to become independent as early as possible.


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24 Jul 2018, 5:36 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
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I'm sure a few who would otherwise have started doing it like everyone else, never did.


I never masturbated until I was 24. It was because I lived at home until then. I was brought up to think it was shameful/ made you a lesser person.


Were your parents really religious?


No, but they made it clear enough that it was unacceptable to do in their house, without actually saying it.

It might have been through comments about other people, opinions on revealing clothing and prostitutes etc.

I went through a phase of wearing low cut tops as a teenager, they made it clear they thought I “looked like a slut”.



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24 Jul 2018, 5:52 am

For me, filtering out those who don’t like to travel and those with low/no sex drives is my main struggle.


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24 Jul 2018, 8:36 am

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I envy people who left their parents' home at eighteen

Me too


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24 Jul 2018, 8:37 am

I left at 20. Wanted to leave before 18.

I first masturbated on purpose at 14. My mother caught me once.



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24 Jul 2018, 8:39 am

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For me, filtering out those who don’t like to travel and those with low/no sex drives is my main struggle.

They don't like to travel? Nearly all the girls I've dated like to travel. I'm usually the one who doesn't want to travel, whist they try to convine me to go on some crazy holiday.


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24 Jul 2018, 9:19 am

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For me, filtering out those who don’t like to travel and those with low/no sex drives is my main struggle.
They don't like to travel? Nearly all the girls I've dated like to travel. I'm usually the one who doesn't want to travel, whist they try to convine me to go on some crazy holiday.
... at your expense, no doubt...


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24 Jul 2018, 9:22 am

You know what? If I had the bucks, I wouldn't mind fully funding a nice lady's round the world sojourn.....



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24 Jul 2018, 9:22 am

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I envy people who left their parents' home at eighteen
I envy people whose parents love them enough to offer to let them stick around a while after they turn 18. Some people's parents have the kid's bags packed and ready to go the morning after their 18th birthday.


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24 Jul 2018, 9:24 am

My mother didn't exactly embrace my presence all during my adolescence......



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24 Jul 2018, 9:55 am

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So if sly moves out, his parents are homeless?

What an effed up situation. They are never going to let that boy grow up, because he's the only thing keeping them off the streets.

Does anyone but me see that as an inappropriate family constellation?

Anyway, I hope sly's dates are turning out well.


My mother would have been homeless without me. My father left debts and she had no skills she could have used to support herself.


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24 Jul 2018, 9:58 am

That means you're not sponging off her.