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29 Dec 2008, 3:15 pm

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29 Dec 2008, 4:04 pm

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An excellent example are the middle easterners. Do you think women from Iraq or Kuwait have a chance in hell of getting a degree from their home towns? I doubt it, especially since from what I understand women can not even drive there so learning is a far leap... but I have not been to the middle east yet (on my list) and therfor chalk this one up to LPP since he lives there and might be able to shed more insight.

Iraq, at least during Saddam's reign, was fairly secular, and many women were college educated if I am not mistaken. I think you're thinking of Saudi Arabia.
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As for Scandinavian's ... last I checked they still had malogarchies (sp?) and had princes and princesses who ran things ... I know the prime minister of Germany is a woman ... but she is running Germany for hevans sake ... that is like a quater of the US in size comparrison.

I really don't know if you're referring to oligarchy (rule by the few—usually some merchant or business class) or matriarchy (rule by the mother of the household). Anyway most of the Scandinavian countries are social democracies with democratic elections and representative legislatures.
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I am not sexist, I am attemptively logical. Men are concorers, women are nuturers. Women have the ability to become more intelligent if they wish.

Splitting the world into stereotyped dichotomies is not logical. Men may tend to be more competitive and women more cooperative, but you will find plenty of exceptions, and most people have a bit of both, depending on the situation. For example, most men will certainly be quite caring towards their girlfriend/fiancée/wife and children even if competitive during a sporting event or work. Likewise, some women can be fiercely competitive (Hillary Rodham Clinton exhibits this trait to a considerable degree).

Moreover, I don't know what you mean by "becom[ing] more intelligent." Intelligence is the raw capacity to learn and adapt to one's environment, and psychological studies have shown IQ is relatively fixed throughout life (if anything, with some mental deterioration into older age). Certainly, though, one can become better educated or more knowledgeable.
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No one i holding women back but themselves. Just like no one is hurting a mans chances of meeting women but his own social anxiety; end all.

For men in Western countries, self-reliance and independence are much more gender normative. You may meet with competition when your self-determined agenda is in conflict with another's, but you will not face the same level of social pressure to conform that women do. Also, it seems women may tend to be innately more sensitive to social condonement and condemnation; that is, they tend to be more sensitive about what people think of them and maintaining relationships (again, there are many exceptions). As a male and an individual with Asperger's syndrome, you simply will not feel these pressures the way they do.

That is not to say it is impossible for women, but biological and sociological pressures tend to reinforce certain attitudes and behaviors for different genders/sexes, races, physical appearance, etc. Going against the grain is never as easy (but obviously more rewarding).



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29 Dec 2008, 5:17 pm

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29 Dec 2008, 5:42 pm

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have not been to the middle east yet (on my list) and therfor chalk this one up to LPP since he lives there and might be able to shed more insight.


*sigh* I am sick of grouping the whole Middle East as one place, it is a big place....you know?

What you are saying is not correct at all where I live, most girls hold high degrees here. Even my mother is math teacher with a high math degree and so my sister in journalism.


Believe or not, even the daughters of Hezbollah are very highly educated (university and above).


Lebanon is #23 in "Girls to boys ratio, secondary level enrollment (most recent) by country " , the ratio is almost 1:1

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/edu_g ... -enrolment

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/edu_e ... s-tertiary


No, it's not Afghanistan here ,nor KSA.



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29 Dec 2008, 5:45 pm

What is it that you're trying to say?


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29 Dec 2008, 5:49 pm

^^ proving him that where I live , women don't need a chance in hell of getting a degree from their home towns, it's something very common among them.



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29 Dec 2008, 5:55 pm

Maybe it's a language problem but most of the time you don't make any sense but I'm trying to understand what you're trying to say.


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29 Dec 2008, 7:01 pm

^I think he's saying that women have the same rights as men do for equal opportunities and education from where he lives.

In other words, his country is more liberal than say...Saudi Arabia or middle eastern countries we typically see in the media that're opposed to women's rights such as education and job opportunities.


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29 Dec 2008, 7:42 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
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have not been to the middle east yet (on my list) and therfor chalk this one up to LPP since he lives there and might be able to shed more insight.


*sigh* I am sick of grouping the whole Middle East as one place, it is a big place....you know?

What you are saying is not correct at all where I live, most girls hold high degrees here. Even my mother is math teacher with a high math degree and so my sister in journalism.


Believe or not, even the daughters of Hezbollah are very highly educated (university and above).


Lebanon is #23 in "Girls to boys ratio, secondary level enrollment (most recent) by country " , the ratio is almost 1:1

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/edu_g ... -enrolment

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/edu_e ... s-tertiary


No, it's not Afghanistan here ,nor KSA.


the only reason I wouldn't live in some/most places in the Middle East is that I have a hard enough time following my own cultural norms. Lebanon/Israel are probably quite different than Bahrain/Qatar which is even more different than Afghanistan/Iraq which is even more different that Saudi Arabia or Iran.



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29 Dec 2008, 9:41 pm

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have you ever tried to communicate something to someone who was significantly less able to communicate/comprehend than you were?

Actually, given the AS, I often do not realize someone is not comprehending what I say very well. Many people are not willing to just say so or ask questions without fear of embarrassment. That said, part of intelligence, is adapting one's message to the audience.
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whether we like it or not, there is a factor of intelligence that, when it comes to sharing ideas and communicating, requires the people involved in the sharing process to be of a certain subset, otherwise sharing becomes impossible. it's not sharing if it's only going in one direction, and not being properly received or reciprocated.

In my opinion, if anyone wants to try to participate in a more intellectual discussion, why not let them? If they're having trouble keeping up, they may duck out or just read. How else is anyone going to learn? How do people learn how to swim? By watching others swim and then getting in the water and trying it for themselves.



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29 Dec 2008, 10:29 pm

Grouping the entire Middle East is pretty closed minded....but never the less some countries like Iraq are good examples of that but thats not the entire world. I never got why they gave there woman so little rights locked them up inside and had the men do all the work....



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30 Dec 2008, 4:45 pm

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Maybe it's a language problem but most of the time you don't make any sense but I'm trying to understand what you're trying to say.


In fact, you are the first member who ever told me such remark.



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30 Dec 2008, 5:09 pm

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Maybe it's a language problem but most of the time you don't make any sense but I'm trying to understand what you're trying to say.

I understand him with the utmost clarity. Just try reading over it again.



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30 Dec 2008, 6:53 pm

Zane wrote:
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Zane wrote:
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Zane wrote:

What is wrong and or offensive about this post?

-Zane


it's a subjective attempt at presenting experiences and issues as if they can be objectified.

Just because F1-Racer A's drivingstyle B causes a preference for Tire C, doesn't mean that F1-Driver X's drivingstyle Y is best used to use driver A's Tire C, just because they're both F1 drivers.


I do not remember asking you ... this actually irritates me very much.

I asked the OP , it was not a matter of your opinion.

I understand you may have your own personal 0.02 to add but I was not asking for it.

I was attempting to be productive...

-Zane


sorry to correct, but in sanndrs defense, what he(?) offered was an explanation of logic, rather than opinion. the principles and processes of logic, in this circumstance (simple if x and y are true, is related factor z also true-type logic) are factual, not a matter of opinion. at least, by my interpretation of what was said. not everything expressed is an opinion, just because a person happens to be saying it. some things are universal, logical truths no matter who is presenting them. just trying to be fair, here.


Give me a break sweetheart, you seriously should read the next part under that :roll:

I recieved an apology for a reason. Do me a favor and take your "correections" elsewhere.





????sweetheart????? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: who are you, clark gable. take your condescending chauvenism and stuff it, pal.



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30 Dec 2008, 6:55 pm

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....and i was never a boastful child. i was shy and retiring by nature. i only told people how i did if they asked me. eventually i stopped telling people even when they asked, and learned to quickly shove my tests into my bag and look at them when i got home, to avoid being told what a loser and a dork and a browner i was.

regular people hate smart people. it's the truth. deal with it.


Uh...not so much. Most "regular" people I know look up to me because I am more intelligent than them. In face I have many girlfriends love the fact unlike most guys I can extend a conversation past pop culture and sports. The fact I read is also benificial.


your experience of people respecting you and looking up to for being intelligent would be dramatically different if you were intelligent and female.



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30 Dec 2008, 6:56 pm

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And the reality hits the floor...Honestly I hate it when woman have problems with men and take it out on innocent males. Life sucks and when sh** hits the fan move on and try not to bleed your heart all over me.
I love the visual imagry Air man. Have you considered writing as a career? It may not be glroious or pay all the bills but it certainly can get you girlfriends, respect, and rent money :wink:


why must you personally insult when you disagree?