What is the main reason why guys have to do the approaching?

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17 Nov 2012, 12:33 pm

I don't see any of this as an issue. I have asked guys out and have been asked out. I wouldn't make a pass, so to speak, but would definitely ask someone out. With the guy I am with, he actually had to insist a few times as I didn't think I would be interested in him. That is, until I realised he was nerdy and an Aspie :oops:



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17 Nov 2012, 1:38 pm

You know what I always find funny and here it is:
some man comes on wp and complain how it's unfair that he can't get a date and that aspie women have it so easy getting dates,
so what happen is alot of woman will get upset and tell him that it's not true and that aspie women too have a hard time getting dates, but here the funny part, all the women who complain have boyfriends or least had more than 2 sometimes in their life.
do some of these women even understand what the men are complaining about.



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17 Nov 2012, 1:43 pm

Of course we understand There is also the female/male ratio to consider. I just think men are (in general) easier pleased, than women, who tend to be more fussy and suspicious. Imagine being a lesbian! Must be hell!



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17 Nov 2012, 1:49 pm

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Of course we understand There is also the female/male ratio to consider. I just think men are (in general) easier pleased, than women, who tend to be more fussy and suspicious. Imagine being a lesbian! Must be hell!


Guys are easier in everything: Easier to make friends with, easier to date, easier to approach.... just...easier.



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17 Nov 2012, 2:18 pm

aspiesandra27 wrote:
Of course we understand


Please don't be so condescending. I accept that I can't understand how difficult life can be for those that live in LDC's, but accept the facts and evidence presented to me. Just as people who have had relationships/sexual contact cannot understand that aspie incels are being denied fundamental human needs, discrimination, dogma and stigma about involuntary celibacy. You can't fully understand something you've never experienced.

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Imagine being a lesbian! Must be hell!


I imagine it to be quite the opposite! :lol:



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17 Nov 2012, 2:38 pm

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Of course we understand There is also the female/male ratio to consider. I just think men are (in general) easier pleased, than women, who tend to be more fussy and suspicious. Imagine being a lesbian! Must be hell!


Ok, Image you are 30 years old and you never ever had a boyfriend, never had sex. Let say we live in a different culture and woman had to go up and ask men out but you are to shy to and that women being shy is seen as being weak,unconfidence. Or let say you can approach men but no man is willing to go out with you. Now let say in this same culture men who are shy and have ''problems'' can easily get a date, let say all women will approach men and forgive men for all their ''flaws''.

but in america culture you as a woman has the advantage of getting a date. Men will go up to you and ask you out and men will tolerate alot of your ''flaws'' and if that your picture, then you are a pretty lady, so that also gives you an advantage.
and you have a bf, so you pretty much are proven my point.



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17 Nov 2012, 7:17 pm

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You know what I always find funny and here it is:
some man comes on wp and complain how it's unfair that he can't get a date and that aspie women have it so easy getting dates,
so what happen is alot of woman will get upset and tell him that it's not true and that aspie women too have a hard time getting dates, but here the funny part, all the women who complain have boyfriends or least had more than 2 sometimes in their life.
do some of these women even understand what the men are complaining about.


I get what you're saying. I don't necessarily agree with your conclusion. I think there are likely many women out yhere who can't get dates at all, the same way many guys here can't. But I do agree with you that those entirely dateless women aren't very visible, and I can understand why you'd think they might not exist.

But can you understand that just being able to get a date does not solve all of ones troubles? That, for the socially naive and unskilled, dating can actually make their lives worse until they realize how to tell the difference between the worthwhile people and the sh***y ones?

And can you see that, aside from all that, someone who's had maybe a person or two over the course of their entire lives show them some interest is still capable of understanding what loneliness feels like? That they can still empathize? And that it's kind of sh***y to just proclaim "None of you have it as bad as I do, therefore you're all part of the problem. Screw you all.". Cause, dude, that's exactly how you're coming across.



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17 Nov 2012, 7:22 pm

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But I've had women accept my advances, then give off the vibe that any guy would've been good enough.


Where's your area?! :lol:


Yeah, I get it.

Trust me, it's not worth it. You'd just feel worse about yourself afterward than you did before.



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17 Nov 2012, 7:54 pm

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billiscool wrote:
You know what I always find funny and here it is:
some man comes on wp and complain how it's unfair that he can't get a date and that aspie women have it so easy getting dates,
so what happen is alot of woman will get upset and tell him that it's not true and that aspie women too have a hard time getting dates, but here the funny part, all the women who complain have boyfriends or least had more than 2 sometimes in their life.
do some of these women even understand what the men are complaining about.


I get what you're saying. I don't necessarily agree with your conclusion. I think there are likely many women out yhere who can't get dates at all, the same way many guys here can't. But I do agree with you that those entirely dateless women aren't very visible, and I can understand why you'd think they might not exist.

But can you understand that just being able to get a date does not solve all of ones troubles? That, for the socially naive and unskilled, dating can actually make their lives worse until they realize how to tell the difference between the worthwhile people and the sh***y ones?

And can you see that, aside from all that, someone who's had maybe a person or two over the course of their entire lives show them some interest is still capable of understanding what loneliness feels like? That they can still empathize? And that it's kind of sh***y to just proclaim "None of you have it as bad as I do, therefore you're all part of the problem. Screw you all.". Cause, dude, that's exactly how you're coming across.


Im sure there are dateless aspie women but they are very rare. they are probaly are the one's who isolated themselves or has other condtion like serve ocd,hoarding, other mental problem. but as long as the woman can go out, she will have 99.9% chances of getting a boyfriend/husband.



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17 Nov 2012, 8:11 pm

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Im sure there are dateless aspie women but they are very rare. they are probaly are the one's who isolated themselves or has other condtion like serve ocd,hoarding, other mental problem. but as long as the woman can go out, she will have 99.9% chances of getting a boyfriend/husband.


Dude, that's just not true.

Even if it were, what makes you assume that all the aspie guys who can't get dates don't have other issues that are stopping them.

All you can speak to is your own experience. You don't know how bad anyone but you does or doesn't have it.



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17 Nov 2012, 8:58 pm

Billiscool... when will you ever get that women (and also many men, for that matter) are simply not looking for just "a boyfriend" or just "a husband"?


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17 Nov 2012, 9:15 pm

mds_02 wrote:
billiscool wrote:
Im sure there are dateless aspie women but they are very rare. they are probaly are the one's who isolated themselves or has other condtion like serve ocd,hoarding, other mental problem. but as long as the woman can go out, she will have 99.9% chances of getting a boyfriend/husband.


Dude, that's just not true.

Even if it were, what makes you assume that all the aspie guys who can't get dates don't have other issues that are stopping them.

All you can speak to is your own experience. You don't know how bad anyone but you does or doesn't have it.

No I am right. aspie women can easily get a boyfriend, that the fact. If aspie women have it so bad, then where these so called single aspie women then. The truth is any women who get out will get a boyfriend. Ok, they may not end up with the best boyfriend but they at least have a boyfriend.



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17 Nov 2012, 9:17 pm

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The truth is any women who get out will get a boyfriend. Ok, they may not end up with the best boyfriend but they at least have a boyfriend.


Having no boyfriend, or girlfriend, is preferable to having a bad one, or in some cases even an average one.


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17 Nov 2012, 9:23 pm

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Billiscool... when will you ever get that women (and also many men, for that matter) are simply not looking for just "a boyfriend" or just "a husband"?

Yes, there are celibacy people too, if that what you mean. People you all be serious. Stop pretending what Im saying is not true.
Aspie women can get into a relationship so much more than aspie men, that the truth. I never ever heard or know of a 40 year aspie women who never dated. (Im excluding celibacy women). How many aspie men are in their 30's and 40's that have never dated,ever.
Yet there are so many aspie women in their mid 20's that are married and had at least 3 partner before they meet their husband.



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17 Nov 2012, 9:25 pm

both are right. Yea they can go out and find any taker in a jiffy, but likely not someone they want. To find a good partner is just as hard for either. To find any partner will be easier on the one expected to be passive



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17 Nov 2012, 9:32 pm

Women can get sex whenever they want, but not necessarily with a guy they want. If looking for a relationship, that's hard to find.

Now for Aspie guys, getting either is hard.