"Euthanizing" my sexual self

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Just curiosity. While my experience largely mirrors what you have each said, there is also a stigma associated with it for many young men which may translate as shyness in that area.


M.

Mak, do you mean shyness about it in general, or shyness about doing/discussing it with a "special friend?" Not sure exactly what you're curious about?

The open enthusiasm in the conversation I found curious; the stigmatization would tend toward sharing something often deemed shameful, but that would depend on their own views on it.


M.

Hmmm....it never occurred to me that describing a (fairly) common fantasy was anything to be ashamed of - I guess because we weren't being exactly graphic or anything. From my perspective, we were just having a little fun and providing a little insight into the female psyche. I think the smart guys reading this will take the opportunity to learn a little bit about women this way - if you'll notice, those particular thoughts are a turn-on for women across the globe! (Also, when women have these types of conversations, guys usually think its hot, rather than weird or offensive.)

Shoot! I just realized what you're asking, Mak - I've got to run but I'll edit this in a bit. Sorry for the confusion.

^Hmmm.....well maybe I'm still not 100% sure if I get your point. If you're surprised that women aren't ashamed to discuss that kind of stuff, I think I addressed that.

I thought what you meant was that men might find the idea and/or act of masturbation a bit shameful, so its weird that we women would find the idea of men doing it hot. If that's your point, I think it all comes down to being attracted to the man involved, and being the "star" of that man's fantasy can't help but make a gal feel desirable and beautiful and sexy and generally awesome. But I can't stress the idea that it has to be a man of one's choosing in order to work.

Gah, I am not communicating. Nothing to do with the discussion between you two or women in general, everything to do with male sense of propriety. Most males that I know are embarrassed to discuss such things, whether in male, mixed, or female company - it isn't a point of pride. There are, of course, those who were described in the chat rooms, but that's another sort of behavior altogether. As I said, my wife would agree with you both - when forced upon, it's unseemly, but can be rather erotic when chosen. That you and Spazzergasm are so comfortable is a tribute to you both.


M.

Major depression can affect your sex drive (it can make it better or worse, depending).

@Toad, you're a man of nobody's choosing yet....

@JoL - a wise strategy, indeed.

@Mak, no worries. (Ummm - don't leave @Sedaka out - she chimed in, too.) To your point (which I get now), I think that kinda comes back to the idea that women tend to be more verbally expressive than men.....chicks like to chat. I certainly notice that guys are typically less willing to talk about feelings, and relationship stuff in general - including sex, fantasies, etc. Even within an intimate relationship, its usually kinda difficult to get a man to open up about fantasies and preferences (not impossible, just difficult).

@tech - too funny. "The eagle has landed" or "the wind is in the buffalo...." - I'm sure we can come up with one.

There's a phrase in the movie, The Full Monty that I particularly liked, although it's similar: The Lunchbox Has Landed.
I have NO idea what that means, or if it has some kind of connotations, but just naked on its own(heh), I love it. I always wish I could use that phrase.