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26 Apr 2011, 12:26 pm

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I don't bother hiding that I'm a bad girl. :twisted:


It's funny that guys get turned on by girls who admit that their bad but they destain those who deny that they are "bad" girls.


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26 Apr 2011, 1:48 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
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A nice girl is one who is not friendly with every single guy she meets. That's a "girl of honor". This is not the same as "b***h" however.

A 'nice' girl is a whore/slut in disguise.


There is some problem with being female and having had multiple sexual partners?


The age old double standard. Gag.

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26 Apr 2011, 1:49 pm

MCalavera wrote:
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Who_Am_I wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
A nice girl is one who is not friendly with every single guy she meets. That's a "girl of honor". This is not the same as "b***h" however.

A 'nice' girl is a whore/slut in disguise.


There is some problem with being female and having had multiple sexual partners?


There is? I didn't know there was.


The last sentence of your post made it seem as though it was. Apologies if I've misread.


That's alright. I should explain it better,

That post was meant to make a distinction between two kinds of girls who display niceness.

The first kind is a genuinely nice girl who doesn't aim to lead on any desperate guy for her own satisfaction but is otherwise kind and polite with people around her (whether she's a virgin or has had multiple sex partners).

The second kind is the kind that goes around f***ing with men's feelings and leading them on by acting like "nice" girls who would never harm a soul in any way when in fact they're the total opposite. That's what I meant by "whore" or "slut" by the way.

Hope this clears up any confusion that may have arised from my post.


OK...I misunderstood too at first. Sorry.

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26 Apr 2011, 4:54 pm

MCalavera wrote:

That post was meant to make a distinction between two kinds of girls who display niceness.

The first kind is a genuinely nice girl who doesn't aim to lead on any desperate guy for her own satisfaction but is otherwise kind and polite with people around her (whether she's a virgin or has had multiple sex partners).

The second kind is the kind that goes around f***ing with men's feelings and leading them on by acting like "nice" girls who would never harm a soul in any way when in fact they're the total opposite. That's what I meant by "whore" or "slut" by the way.

Hope this clears up any confusion that may have arised from my post.


Oh, I see. You're using the wrong words for what you mean.

A slut is a term used for a woman who is sexually promiscuous. It's been used this way since the 1400s.
A whore is a term used for a woman who prostitutes, or provides sexual services for money. As we know, the act of whoring has been around far longer than the word.

Words you could consider that may be more accurate are: manipulator, exploiter, scam artist, con artist, or emotional vampire. Maybe you can find more options.



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26 Apr 2011, 6:22 pm

wefunction wrote:
MCalavera wrote:

That post was meant to make a distinction between two kinds of girls who display niceness.

The first kind is a genuinely nice girl who doesn't aim to lead on any desperate guy for her own satisfaction but is otherwise kind and polite with people around her (whether she's a virgin or has had multiple sex partners).

The second kind is the kind that goes around f***ing with men's feelings and leading them on by acting like "nice" girls who would never harm a soul in any way when in fact they're the total opposite. That's what I meant by "whore" or "slut" by the way.

Hope this clears up any confusion that may have arised from my post.


Oh, I see. You're using the wrong words for what you mean.

A slut is a term used for a woman who is sexually promiscuous. It's been used this way since the 1400s.
A whore is a term used for a woman who prostitutes, or provides sexual services for money. As we know, the act of whoring has been around far longer than the word.

Words you could consider that may be more accurate are: manipulator, exploiter, scam artist, con artist, or emotional vampire. Maybe you can find more options.

I think the meanings of the word slut & whore have changed kind of like how the word fag now means loud inconsiderate bike-rider instead of homosexual. Lots of people use whore & slut differently than those definitions


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26 Apr 2011, 6:31 pm

nick007 wrote:
wefunction wrote:
MCalavera wrote:

That post was meant to make a distinction between two kinds of girls who display niceness.

The first kind is a genuinely nice girl who doesn't aim to lead on any desperate guy for her own satisfaction but is otherwise kind and polite with people around her (whether she's a virgin or has had multiple sex partners).

The second kind is the kind that goes around f***ing with men's feelings and leading them on by acting like "nice" girls who would never harm a soul in any way when in fact they're the total opposite. That's what I meant by "whore" or "slut" by the way.

Hope this clears up any confusion that may have arised from my post.


Oh, I see. You're using the wrong words for what you mean.

A slut is a term used for a woman who is sexually promiscuous. It's been used this way since the 1400s.
A whore is a term used for a woman who prostitutes, or provides sexual services for money. As we know, the act of whoring has been around far longer than the word.

Words you could consider that may be more accurate are: manipulator, exploiter, scam artist, con artist, or emotional vampire. Maybe you can find more options.

I think the meanings of the word slut & whore have changed kind of like how the word fag now means loud inconsiderate bike-rider instead of homosexual. Lots of people use whore & slut differently than those definitions


People use the words but the definition has not changed. The message expands to mean that anyone who is sexually promiscuous is generally also a bad, awful, manipulative person, or anyone who is behaving in a disagreeable way must also be sexually promiscuous (which is assumingly bad). This is done often. It's an easy and constant way to degrade certain people, and a prime example is the gay slur you've used. The truth is, these words haven't changed. In fact, nothing has changed. The words and the mentality behind them are very much still the same. Very 15th Century.



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26 Apr 2011, 7:13 pm

MCalavera wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
A nice girl is one who is not friendly with every single guy she meets. That's a "girl of honor". This is not the same as "b***h" however.

A 'nice' girl is a whore/slut in disguise.


There is some problem with being female and having had multiple sexual partners?


There is? I didn't know there was.


The last sentence of your post made it seem as though it was. Apologies if I've misread.


That's alright. I should explain it better,

That post was meant to make a distinction between two kinds of girls who display niceness.

The first kind is a genuinely nice girl who doesn't aim to lead on any desperate guy for her own satisfaction but is otherwise kind and polite with people around her (whether she's a virgin or has had multiple sex partners).

The second kind is the kind that goes around f***ing with men's feelings and leading them on by acting like "nice" girls who would never harm a soul in any way when in fact they're the total opposite. That's what I meant by "whore" or "slut" by the way.

Hope this clears up any confusion that may have arised from my post.


I understand now what you mean, and thanks for explaining. :)

I agree with wefunction about different words being better suited to what you meant.


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26 Apr 2011, 7:28 pm

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kind of like how the word fag now means loud inconsiderate bike-rider instead of homosexual.


If you accused someone of being 'a fag' in England you'd get laughed at because you'd be accusing them of being a cigarette. ;)



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26 Apr 2011, 7:36 pm

For me "nice girl" has little to do with sexual promiscuity as I just assume that all adult women are sexually active. To me it implies a high maintenance girl who dreams of a life of social conformity, babies, elaborate weddings, etc. Someone who is very much tied to the dreams of her young adulthood and who has a narrow worldview beyond that. Not that there is anything wrong with that.



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26 Apr 2011, 8:33 pm

Tequila wrote:
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kind of like how the word fag now means loud inconsiderate bike-rider instead of homosexual.


If you accused someone of being 'a fag' in England you'd get laughed at because you'd be accusing them of being a cigarette. ;)


Yes, I believe the Brits have designed different words for gay bashing, along with other things, on that side of the ocean.



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26 Apr 2011, 9:52 pm

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If you accused someone of being 'a fag' in England you'd get laughed at because you'd be accusing them of being a cigarette. ;)


:lmao: Haha, I know. In the US if you want to pick on someone for smoking, you can bring up that cigarettes are called fags in England, and tell them their smoking a fag. You can have quite a bit of fun with that if you are in the US. :)


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26 Apr 2011, 10:26 pm

wefunction wrote:
MCalavera wrote:

That post was meant to make a distinction between two kinds of girls who display niceness.

The first kind is a genuinely nice girl who doesn't aim to lead on any desperate guy for her own satisfaction but is otherwise kind and polite with people around her (whether she's a virgin or has had multiple sex partners).

The second kind is the kind that goes around f***ing with men's feelings and leading them on by acting like "nice" girls who would never harm a soul in any way when in fact they're the total opposite. That's what I meant by "whore" or "slut" by the way.

Hope this clears up any confusion that may have arised from my post.


Oh, I see. You're using the wrong words for what you mean.

A slut is a term used for a woman who is sexually promiscuous. It's been used this way since the 1400s.
A whore is a term used for a woman who prostitutes, or provides sexual services for money. As we know, the act of whoring has been around far longer than the word.

Words you could consider that may be more accurate are: manipulator, exploiter, scam artist, con artist, or emotional vampire. Maybe you can find more options.


My problem is ever since I started reading the words of Jesus, I've been wired to label people based on motives instead of mere actions even if the label is not accurate.

I thank you for correcting my mistakes and helping me out.



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26 Apr 2011, 11:06 pm

MCalavera wrote:
A nice girl is one who is not friendly with every single guy she meets. That's a "girl of honor". This is not the same as "b***h" however.

A 'nice' girl is a whore/slut in disguise.


I don't think a whore/slut is the same as a "nice girl". A whore is a woman who performs sexual services in exchange for money, a slut is a sexually promiscuous woman who does not profit from her activities.

I think the term "nice guy" or "nice girl" implies that the person externally presents themselves as a nice person but actually has self centered or ulterior motives or unreasonable expectations of others. I do think this manifests differently between the sexes though, and so I think the topic of this thread seeks to determine how a "nice girl" would present.



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27 Apr 2011, 7:57 am

wefunction wrote:
Tequila wrote:
nick007 wrote:
kind of like how the word fag now means loud inconsiderate bike-rider instead of homosexual.


If you accused someone of being 'a fag' in England you'd get laughed at because you'd be accusing them of being a cigarette. ;)


Yes, I believe the Brits have designed different words for gay bashing, along with other things, on that side of the ocean.


Poof. Batty boy. Gay boy. Bum boy. Turd pusher. Uphill gardener. Fairy. And so on.

Oh, and if I was being called a fa***t I'd want to know why I was being called…

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27 Apr 2011, 8:21 am

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All the females my own age I've known have been backstabbers, gossipers and two faced unfortunately.


You're 18 and in Dublin. I'm 50 and in the U.S. I have experienced the same exact thing!!
I had only ONE good one but when her marriage failed she turned into a bitter person who became very jealous of my kids getting ahead in life - now, that's not right!



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27 Apr 2011, 8:43 am

Now I grew up in the late 60's early 70's...so, bear with me because there are BIG generation gaps on this site. For me, a "nice" girl meant someone who wouldn't have any kind of sex with you until you were engaged or at least steadily dating for about 8 months. It was possible that she might put her hands on your organ if you begged long enough (only the hands - nothing else). You'd also notice a keen look of embarrassment on her face but she'd do it anyway because she felt she's wasn't being modern enough and because that's what you wanted. But after you saw that look, you'd feel like a real bastard for even asking her to do that. Also, a "nice" girl would NOT date anybody else until you or she decided that you shouldn't date anymore. In my time, nice girls always got married to really big CHEATS!! These guys cheated on these nice girls BEFORE and AFTER marriage. All the nice girls I knew finished last because they were so horribly taken advantage of. Well at least they made good moms and their kids really loved them. Nice girls stay married to men who aren't worth a damned dime - they tough it out hoping that all the infidelity will stop after 50 years. It doesn't. It stops when he dies and he leaves you NOTHING - no cash!! It would be different if he left you very well-off after all the s**t you endured. Nobody seemed to want a nice girl. I was told I was too good-looking to be nice and that nice was BORING! Now, WTF was that supposed to mean?! Guys always seemed to fall madly in love with girls who screwed everybody EXCEPT them and who turned out to be lousy moms. I guess guys like abuse. I know aspie guys do for a fact. A lot of b*****s come from homes like the ones I described. I wonder why? A lot of daughters had to watch their moms live horrible lives with their fathers only to get their reward in HEAVEN. There's no reward here on Earth for being a decent woman. Whores get to go everywhere while dear old ma slaves over a f*****g stove. That's the evolution of the b***h daughter. Payback.