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29 Aug 2012, 2:06 am

Do Asian girls in their homeland desire white guys when they see one because of the rarity over there?



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29 Aug 2012, 7:31 am

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most of the Asians here are Vietnamese (sometimes Hmong), Thai, or Chinese.


Here is a suggestion: try learning to speak a few words of Thai or Vietnamese, and then use it to strike up conversations with random Thai and Vietnamese chicas.

The Pimsleur method is generally pretty good to get you started.

I think that Hmong generally don't speak Vietnamese or Thai, and that there aren't any resources for learning Hmong.

Chinese typically don't like to have romantic liaisons with people who aren't Chinese.



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29 Aug 2012, 7:35 am

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Do Asian girls in their homeland desire white guys when they see one because of the rarity over there?


In some countries, yes. In the Philippines, for example, the entertainment industry is dominated by mixed-race people (typically a Filipina mother and foreign father). So, lots of Filipinas are enchanted by the idea of marrying a foreigner and raising mixed-race children. A foreign husband can be quite a trophy.



29 Aug 2012, 9:09 am

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OK, so this thread may be locked for me being construed as racist/sexist/whatever. But, I can only say what I've experienced.

Anyway, I do find Asian girls pretty attractive. But, I find it hard to "strike up" conversations with them in public places. I've had some exceptions to this, like one time I was like 15 years old in Florida, and a bunch of girls from Korea invited me to play water volleyball with them and we got along well and all that, some language issues. However, that might be entirely irrelevant, as there's not a lot of Koreans in my state anyway, most of the Asians here are Vietnamese (sometimes Hmong), Thai, or Chinese. And to an extent, they keep to themselves in their communities and whatnot, and basically...don't seem to like white people. Filipinos I've met have been more or less the friendliest Asians I've met, as there's a lot of American influence there. But yeah, the Vietnamese, Thai, and Chinese seem sorta xenophobic over here, and they all sorta seem to have their own social circle of Asians. There's about zero Japanese people in my state, and Japanese culture/etc is what I like the most of Asian cultures, but honestly I can probably count on like one hand how many Japanese people I've ever talked to in person.

So yeah, as far as just even making Asian friends, it can be harder, due to them being xenophobic, but then for dating here, it seems nigh on impossible, as all the Asian girls around seem to not wanna be talked to at all. Like one time I asked this girl what she thought of a drink at the Asian market and she was just like "I have a boyfriend." So yeah, it's nothing against Asians, I've had good experiences with them too, just they seem really...closed. The biggest contrast for the Asians I've seen was Middle Eastern and Indian people, they're all really nice, and I get along pretty well with them, like you can talk with them for a half hour and they'll invite you to dinner, Asians 99% of them aren't like that, and seem to have a huge distrust of Americans/white people.

So again, this post isn't meant to be racist or anything (though it might be better in Social Skills, not sure), I'm just wondering, has anyone else encountered this problem with making Asian friends, either just for platonic friends, or for dating? How do you get around it?



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29 Aug 2012, 9:55 am

^ Well, yes. Plenty of lovely prostitutes in some Asian countries. Proceed with caution. And, yes, carefully negotiate the price and services first.



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29 Aug 2012, 10:04 am

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No women will want to be your "Asian" trophy.


I think that most people would prefer to be valued and held in high esteem by their spouses. What's wrong with being a trophy spouse?



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29 Aug 2012, 5:00 pm

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DW_a_mom wrote:
No women will want to be your "Asian" trophy.


I think that most people would prefer to be valued and held in high esteem by their spouses. What's wrong with being a trophy spouse?


I don't think you get what being a trophy is all about... the trophy (actual or human variety) exists only to glorify the "owner" of it. The trophy girl is considered more of a non-person and exists only to please her master while he brags to everyone (verbally or not) about how he's "got it all".

I was a trophy husband of sorts until she finally moved on for "something better"... it was a degrading experience.



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29 Aug 2012, 6:23 pm

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No women will want to be your "Asian" trophy.


I think that most people would prefer to be valued and held in high esteem by their spouses. What's wrong with being a trophy spouse?


I don't think you get what being a trophy is all about... the trophy (actual or human variety) exists only to glorify the "owner" of it. The trophy girl is considered more of a non-person and exists only to please her master while he brags to everyone (verbally or not) about how he's "got it all".

I was a trophy husband of sorts until she finally moved on for "something better"... it was a degrading experience.


Well, I wouldn't know what it was like. I would think that bragging about one's spouse would be a positive thing. As opposed to going around and announcing "My spouse is a stupid, ugly jerk."



29 Aug 2012, 7:17 pm

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DW_a_mom wrote:
No women will want to be your "Asian" trophy.


I think that most people would prefer to be valued and held in high esteem by their spouses. What's wrong with being a trophy spouse?



For some reason a lot of asian gals are annoyed by white men who hit on them simply because they're asian. There are however, a lot of them who prefer to date white men but they'd rather be the one to choose first than be sought after by white men with some stereotyped ideal about how asian women are *supposed* to be. That is, those white men might expect her to be a certain way which she's not.



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29 Aug 2012, 7:34 pm

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So. If you are interested in recent immigrants, the route to go is going to be the parents, work or church. Many of these families, based on what my friends in them have told me, are wary of assimilating too fast, and daughters are may have been told not to date American men; which is NOT about xenophobia, but more about holding onto a culture and history that means a lot to the family; you need to understand and show respect for that. It is not always true, but I've known of it to be true often enough to tell you that you should be ready to prove yourself as a respectful, stand up guy with strong family values and the ability to provide economic support, and who loves and respects the culture the woman comes from, before ever asking for the first date. From what I've heard from my friends, in most cases you cannot walk up to the daughter of a recent immigrant family and just ask her out or even just start flirting; they tell me that just isn't done in those cultures, or at least that is the standard immigrant families tend to bring with them.


It is perhaps noteworthy that, while millions of Southeast Asian parents will sell their daughters to brothels, most Southeast Asian parents expect their daughters to remain virgins until marriage, and to remain completely faithful to their husbands after marriage.

So, don't expect to be able necessarily to dive into her vagina straight away.



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30 Aug 2012, 7:05 am

Here is a Marie Claire article "The New Trophy Wives: Asian Women":

http://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/adv ... rophy-wife

And a Tyra Banks discussion of the article:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S17TSNHnhI[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AneiBtUNn9s&feature=relmfu[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z7AafqYvbU&feature=relmfu[/youtube]


From some of the comments typed above, and made by women in the Tyra Banks show, I gather that quite a lot of non-Asian women feel threatened by the Asian phenomenon. We have the feminist emphasis on equality, and whipping/henpecking the man into shape, while the man in the first interview is talking about how his Asian girlfriend thoroughly pampered him. When our men perceive this other option, then, of course, our women are going to become hostile.



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30 Aug 2012, 8:02 am

It is also noteworthy that the Asian phenomenon isn't exactly something new. Here is Rudyard Kipling's poem Mandalay

http://allpoetry.com/poem/8445273-Manda ... rd_Kipling

Quote:
....Tho' I walks with fifty 'ousemaids outer Chelsea to the Strand,
An' they talks a lot o' lovin', but wot do they understand?
Beefy face an' grubby 'and —
Law! wot do they understand?
I've a neater, sweeter maiden in a cleaner, greener land!
On the road to Mandalay . . .



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30 Aug 2012, 8:57 am

I LOL'd at this thread.

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30 Aug 2012, 8:58 am

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ArrantPariah wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
No women will want to be your "Asian" trophy.


I think that most people would prefer to be valued and held in high esteem by their spouses. What's wrong with being a trophy spouse?



For some reason a lot of asian gals are annoyed by white men who hit on them simply because they're asian. There are however, a lot of them who prefer to date white men but they'd rather be the one to choose first than be sought after by white men with some stereotyped ideal about how asian women are *supposed* to be. That is, those white men might expect her to be a certain way which she's not.


Lotta Asian girls use the "White Man's Kryptonite" thing to their advantage. It's pretty funny to watch.



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30 Aug 2012, 9:28 am

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30 Aug 2012, 10:36 am

So it seems the solution is to move. Or haters will continue to hate.