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10 Jul 2012, 5:49 pm

Regardless of the gender you are, what you seek in a partner is just a matter of personal preference I would say. The fundamental desires are usually the same, honest, kind, caring, etc. Well I'm sure most would want that anyway. For me I would be happy with someone with similar interests and personal characteristics as my own. As I feel it would be difficult to get along with someone in an intimate manner that is completely you're opposite.



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10 Jul 2012, 6:00 pm

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unless he tells me (or demonstrates in some obvious way)


Words are just empty words. What people really do matters. Take marriage vow for example, or Milgram /Stanford prison experiment etc :roll: :lol:



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10 Jul 2012, 7:10 pm

I wish I knew more about what men wanted...

From what I've seen, one of the most important criteria is that they want to be physically attracted to the woman/women in their life, and have a satisfying sex life (50%). But then of almost equal importance is her personality (is it compatible? most guys seem to want a different thing in this category), the way she treats him (is she loving? does she cook?), her values (is she independent? would she want the man to pay? does she work out? does she want a family? etc)... so ~16% each



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10 Jul 2012, 10:18 pm

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Jeez... I just want a woman to LOVE me (and that includes not emasculating me at every opportunity or wanting me to be "more like other men".)

In other words, love ME for exactly who and what I am right here and now... none of this "I can change him to be more what I want him to be" crap.


Amen. I think this is what women want, too (in my experience) and what I was trying to say, above.

{hugs for the hard time you're going through, BlueMax}

I agree.



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10 Jul 2012, 10:33 pm

metaldanielle wrote:
mv wrote:
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Jeez... I just want a woman to LOVE me (and that includes not emasculating me at every opportunity or wanting me to be "more like other men".)

In other words, love ME for exactly who and what I am right here and now... none of this "I can change him to be more what I want him to be" crap.


Amen. I think this is what women want, too (in my experience) and what I was trying to say, above.

{hugs for the hard time you're going through, BlueMax}

I agree.

I imagine you gals want the opposite of the emasculating part though... someone who won't push you into becoming skinner than the size you met at. (If you gain a ton of weight AFTER becoming a couple, that's a little unfair to him... but that goes for both genders too.)



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10 Jul 2012, 10:55 pm

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why does women hardly ever care to ask or talk about or think about what men wants?

Because most of us know that different men want different things, so there's no point making a thread that lumps all men into one category.



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10 Jul 2012, 11:02 pm

yellowtamarin wrote:
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why does women hardly ever care to ask or talk about or think about what men wants?

Because most of us know that different men want different things, so there's no point making a thread that lumps all men into one category.


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10 Jul 2012, 11:02 pm

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If you gain a ton of weight AFTER becoming a couple, that's a little unfair to him...


A little, but better that, than losing a bunch and then, once a little confidence is gained, feeling free to give the other person misery all the time. Power (perceived or real) sometimes exposes a person's true nature.



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10 Jul 2012, 11:14 pm

BlueMax wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
AspergianMutantt wrote:
why does women hardly ever care to ask or talk about or think about what men wants?

Because most of us know that different men want different things, so there's no point making a thread that lumps all men into one category.


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Well he asked! :lol:



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10 Jul 2012, 11:23 pm

aSKperger wrote:
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unless he tells me (or demonstrates in some obvious way)


Words are just empty words. What people really do matters. Take marriage vow for example, or Milgram /Stanford prison experiment etc :roll: :lol:

no, words mean a great deal. if a man tells me that he is attracted to me, for example, i would think he means it. i am likely to miss out on subtler cues, but words can be clear and open.


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10 Jul 2012, 11:34 pm

BlueMax wrote:
metaldanielle wrote:
mv wrote:
BlueMax wrote:
Jeez... I just want a woman to LOVE me (and that includes not emasculating me at every opportunity or wanting me to be "more like other men".)

In other words, love ME for exactly who and what I am right here and now... none of this "I can change him to be more what I want him to be" crap.


Amen. I think this is what women want, too (in my experience) and what I was trying to say, above.

{hugs for the hard time you're going through, BlueMax}

I agree.

I imagine you gals want the opposite of the emasculating part though... someone who won't push you into becoming skinner than the size you met at. (If you gain a ton of weight AFTER becoming a couple, that's a little unfair to him... but that goes for both genders too.)

there is no "fair" when it comes to someone else's body. a woman's body isn't intended to stay in a certain shape or size just because you like it that way. we make our own choices with our bodies (both men and women).


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11 Jul 2012, 12:22 am

I'm still pretty convinced this would be better as a "what people want" thread.


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11 Jul 2012, 1:51 am

Well if we make a vague observation, I think most people including men and women want some level of wealth, health and love or they want to feel fulfilment from those things. Earning money and being appreciated for doing something creative or finding love and acceptance from someone so they feel a sense of validation.

I think however that true validation, acceptance and love comes from within, you must first understand and love yourself before you can love another.



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11 Jul 2012, 1:52 am

hyperlexian wrote:
there is no "fair" when it comes to someone else's body. a woman's body isn't intended to stay in a certain shape or size just because you like it that way. we make our own choices with our bodies (both men and women).

Maybe not, but it's pretty dang selfish. If you married an attractive man who then turned around and changed his physical makeup to something not only unattractive but completely repulsive, it would be unfair to you. Imagine he stopped showering and brushing teeth and smelled disgusting - you would NOT like it, would you?



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11 Jul 2012, 1:55 am

BlueMax wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
there is no "fair" when it comes to someone else's body. a woman's body isn't intended to stay in a certain shape or size just because you like it that way. we make our own choices with our bodies (both men and women).

Maybe not, but it's pretty dang selfish. If you married an attractive man who then turned around and changed his physical makeup to something not only unattractive but completely repulsive, it would be unfair to you. Imagine he stopped showering and brushing teeth and smelled disgusting - you would NOT like it, would you?


Both examples sound like esteem problems.



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11 Jul 2012, 2:04 am

BlueMax wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
there is no "fair" when it comes to someone else's body. a woman's body isn't intended to stay in a certain shape or size just because you like it that way. we make our own choices with our bodies (both men and women).

Maybe not, but it's pretty dang selfish. If you married an attractive man who then turned around and changed his physical makeup to something not only unattractive but completely repulsive, it would be unfair to you. Imagine he stopped showering and brushing teeth and smelled disgusting - you would NOT like it, would you?

you are phrasing that as though people intentionally gain weight in order to offend or repulse someone, which is not the case. perhaps the problem is that you don't find larger people attractive, and therefore you consider it to be a negative transformation. not everyone feels that way. many people find overweight and obese people attractive, or they find the person inside the skin attractive (which renders the outward appearances less important). people who are obese and overweight are not by default slovenly or lazy, so they may in fact be taking very good care of themselves. for what it's worth, i dated a man who showered and brushed his teeth infrequently at best, and he didn't wear deodorant.

i am not so shallow that i would care about things like that. it was his body, not mine.


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