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Too, I really question the relationship-fitness and general mental stability of people who liken being unable to find a willing sexual partner to something akin to sexual assault with words like "incel", let alone the implication that such a term is male-specific. No one is inflicting something on you.
Yes exactly. I'm not sure about the term "incel" exactly, but it seems it's only going to give people in that position a bad name - it will be associated with a really negative stereotype - if it's being used to describe men who are angry that no woman will sleep with them and blame feminism or women in general for it. The posts here have also indicated it's a new problem, which I find hard to believe.
Surely the nature of this forum suggests that a cause of struggling to find relationships is far more likely to be neurological? Like the other problems people with Asperger's/autism face, whether social or otherwise? There will also be people without a specific medical condition unable to form relationships, just as there are women unable to form relationships as well as men. The reasons are complicated.
People don't choose who they are attracted to or who they are in love with. They can choose their actions to a greater extent, but not their feelings (well, maybe sometimes you can alter your feelings, but it's never going to be easy and often it will be impossible). It doesn't make sense to think someone's wronged you by not having the feelings for you you wish they'd have, however unhappy it may be. And clearly you can't expect someone to act as if they have feelings towards you when they don't.
It would of course be preferable if there was less discrimination against and negative stereotypes associated with single people. It doesn't need encouraging.
ValentineWiggin wrote:
who liken being unable to find a willing sexual partner to something akin to sexual assault with words like "incel",
Could you explain what you mean there, because I am totally confused by it.
ValentineWiggin wrote:
let alone the implication that such a term is male-specific.
Since there is no research into how this - Hmm, I would classify it as a disease - effects & affects genders there is no definite answer.
ValentineWiggin wrote:
No one is inflicting something on you.
Right, so Emily, Vicky, Hollie, Amanda, Casey, Rachel, Sarah, Heather, Laura, Vicky (Again), Casey (Again), Casey's friend who I've forgotten her name, oh and Claire didn't reject me, often brutally publicly in school? No, clearly just nightmares I dreamt up.
They inflicted incel on me, for what? What did I do to them? What was so horribly cruel and evil of me to think of them as attractive? All I did was ask them out and wham, ten years of pain and loneliness. Every f*****g day it's a fight with myself to think I'm good enough to go out today. Every day it's a fight with the mirror. For what? What was it that made me so evil that they had to destroy every good part in me? Why?
J-Greens wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
No one is inflicting something on you.
Right, so Emily, Vicky, Hollie, Amanda, Casey, Rachel, Sarah, Heather, Laura, Vicky (Again), Casey (Again), Casey's friend who I've forgotten her name, oh and Claire didn't reject me, often brutally publicly in school? No, clearly just nightmares I dreamt up.
They inflicted incel on me, for what? What did I do to them? What was so horribly cruel and evil of me to think of them as attractive? All I did was ask them out and wham, ten years of pain and loneliness. Every f***ing day it's a fight with myself to think I'm good enough to go out today. Every day it's a fight with the mirror. For what? What was it that made me so evil that they had to destroy every good part in me? Why?
I know you weren't always like this. You were a sweet innocent little kid once. But you have taken a wrong turn to a really dark place and your situation won't change as long as you stay in that dark place.
This whole concept of "inflict incel" is really damaging you and making it impossible for you to ever meet a compatible woman. You have to get away from the idea that women owe you sex or a relationship and are depriving you if they don't hand it over. You have to make changes in yourself so at least one woman wants to be with you. There are countless threads where men describe what changes they made in themselves that really turned things around. Those are good threads full of useable advice. But none of it will work until something in your head changes to drop this idea that women who won't date you are somehow out to "get" you. They aren't. They are just trying to find the man who is right for them. And in your current mental state it isn't possible for you to be right for them. You have to find a way to let go of this anger. Some of the other posters have succeeded in that. Follow their lead.
J-Greens wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
who liken being unable to find a willing sexual partner to something akin to sexual assault with words like "incel",
Could you explain what you mean there, because I am totally confused by it.
ValentineWiggin wrote:
let alone the implication that such a term is male-specific.
Since there is no research into how this - Hmm, I would classify it as a disease - effects & affects genders there is no definite answer.
ValentineWiggin wrote:
No one is inflicting something on you.
Right, so Emily, Vicky, Hollie, Amanda, Casey, Rachel, Sarah, Heather, Laura, Vicky (Again), Casey (Again), Casey's friend who I've forgotten her name, oh and Claire didn't reject me, often brutally publicly in school? No, clearly just nightmares I dreamt up.
They inflicted incel on me, for what? What did I do to them? What was so horribly cruel and evil of me to think of them as attractive? All I did was ask them out and wham, ten years of pain and loneliness. Every f***ing day it's a fight with myself to think I'm good enough to go out today. Every day it's a fight with the mirror. For what? What was it that made me so evil that they had to destroy every good part in me? Why?
I'm really sorry you had bad experiences. I'm assuming these girls didn't just turn you down, but perhaps laughed, bullied or were generally cruel to you when you asked them. It's not their fault for not being attracted to you - they didn't have a responsibility to accept you as a date - but they shouldn't have been cruel about it.
Especially it's sounds like your talking about teenagers - not that that's an excuse, but adults do usually grow to be a bit more respectful. Most women (and men) do not reject people to be mean, or even use it as an excuse to be mean, but because they don't want a relationship with that person.
Some people may have inflicted bullying on you - this happens to a lot of people in a lot of situations. But not being in a relationship now is not some conspiracy, not something people are doing deliberately to hurt you, and not something that's a result of you being male.
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