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15 Sep 2015, 1:01 pm

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SSI and SSDI are both disability allowances in the U.S.


Ah! Thank-you!I thought they were conditions/disabilities. :oops:



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15 Sep 2015, 1:02 pm

It, obviously, can work with a stay-at-home daddy.

I wouldn't like to be the stay-at-home while my wife works. It's because I suck at "house" things. I'd be really weak in this department.



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15 Sep 2015, 1:09 pm

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It, obviously, can work with a stay-at-home daddy.

I wouldn't like to be the stay-at-home while my wife works. It's because I suck at "house" things. I'd be really weak in this department.


Excuses...excuses, just admit you're a big baby!

It's never too late to start learning doing some cooking and laundry and other of those stuff.



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15 Sep 2015, 1:17 pm

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You can either answer hypothetically, or based on your ltr/'s.

Are you happy for your relationship to not be an entirely equal partnership? Would you be happy to support a partner who doesn't/can't work? Would you be happy to have more responsibilities than your partner?

The reason I ask is because I've been trying to get back into work for the last 18 months, but it just hasn't been a viable option for me so far. I feel guilty about this, because it means my partner has the pressure of earning enough to support us both, and I'm not pulling my weight. He says that he's happy even if I can never work, and that I do enough just by doing the housework/laundry/cooking/childcare etc.

Should I feel guilty that I'm not fulfilling the same role as him? I love him very much and don't want him to be under extra pressure because of me.


Ok, first of all, most relationships are not equal partnerships. In 99% of relationships, us guys are the ones who'll be doing 99% compromising and 99% of the responsiblities. That's how it works; guys compromise for the gals, so the gals can compromise for the kids.

Wait, I just realized you're a girl... forget everything I said. No, your partner won't care if you stay on as a housewife. If you feel like he's under a lot of stress, just strive to the best housewife you can be and make his after-work hours at home extra special.

I'm not even kidding here, honestly. Don't even bother too much looking for a job unless you really need the money or you're interested in pursuing a career. Your husband won't care if you're a stay-at-home wife.

Peace.



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15 Sep 2015, 1:25 pm

Inle wrote:
You can either answer hypothetically, or based on your ltr/'s.

Are you happy for your relationship to not be an entirely equal partnership? Would you be happy to support a partner who doesn't/can't work? Would you be happy to have more responsibilities than your partner?

The reason I ask is because I've been trying to get back into work for the last 18 months, but it just hasn't been a viable option for me so far. I feel guilty about this, because it means my partner has the pressure of earning enough to support us both, and I'm not pulling my weight. He says that he's happy even if I can never work, and that I do enough just by doing the housework/laundry/cooking/childcare etc.

Should I feel guilty that I'm not fulfilling the same role as him? I love him very much and don't want him to be under extra pressure because of me.


Nope, you shouldn't feel guilty and who does/earns what in a long-term relationship invariably changes over time. Your contributions are no less valid than his. If it works for you both, yaY!

My boyfriend and I presently (newish BF) have an equal partnership, though I earn about $25k more than he does.



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15 Sep 2015, 1:28 pm

I'm perfectly fine with building my own house, cooking is fun IMO and I'm good with busy work schedules when my home life's ok. If I were building my hypothetical house, I'd probably design it to avoid home life almost altogether; mostly garage, batcave instead of office. That's why I'd actually sort of prefer this. I'm a workaholic and so is everyone I know. I'll be the first to admit I lean on others to provide the intrinsically human aspects of my daily life - the rest of it is all post-modernism, math & engineering. I'm no good at spending what I earn, I usually reinvest, so I'd rather do that on an individual scale.


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15 Sep 2015, 1:31 pm

Gauldoth wrote:
Inle wrote:
You can either answer hypothetically, or based on your ltr/'s.

Are you happy for your relationship to not be an entirely equal partnership? Would you be happy to support a partner who doesn't/can't work? Would you be happy to have more responsibilities than your partner?

The reason I ask is because I've been trying to get back into work for the last 18 months, but it just hasn't been a viable option for me so far. I feel guilty about this, because it means my partner has the pressure of earning enough to support us both, and I'm not pulling my weight. He says that he's happy even if I can never work, and that I do enough just by doing the housework/laundry/cooking/childcare etc.

Should I feel guilty that I'm not fulfilling the same role as him? I love him very much and don't want him to be under extra pressure because of me.


Ok, first of all, most relationships are not equal partnerships. In 99% of relationships, us guys are the ones who'll be doing 99% compromising and 99% of the responsiblities. That's how it works; guys compromise for the gals, so the gals can compromise for the kids.

Wait, I just realized you're a girl... forget everything I said. No, your partner won't care if you stay on as a housewife. If you feel like he's under a lot of stress, just strive to the best housewife you can be and make his after-work hours at home extra special.

I'm not even kidding here, honestly. Don't even bother too much looking for a job unless you really need the money or you're interested in pursuing a career. Your husband won't care if you're a stay-at-home wife.

Peace.


Wow, it sounds like you've been burned pretty badly. I agree that most relationships are not entirely equal but there a hell of a lot closer than what you described. If your partner is that selfish than you are in a toxic relationship and you should end it right away. And also this isn't the 50's not every guy wants a housewife.



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15 Sep 2015, 1:32 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
It, obviously, can work with a stay-at-home daddy.

I wouldn't like to be the stay-at-home while my wife works. It's because I suck at "house" things. I'd be really weak in this department.


Excuses...excuses, just admit you're a big baby!

It's never too late to start learning doing some cooking and laundry and other of those stuff.

Yeah, if you learn to cook, you can always pawn off the kitchen chores on your S.O. :lol:


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15 Sep 2015, 2:07 pm

It just so happens that I do cook for myself, and I do my own laundry.

I'm talking about the deep-cleaning stuff. Spring cleaning kind of thing. I can do the basics.



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15 Sep 2015, 3:10 pm

Gauldoth wrote:
Inle wrote:
You can either answer hypothetically, or based on your ltr/'s.

Are you happy for your relationship to not be an entirely equal partnership? Would you be happy to support a partner who doesn't/can't work? Would you be happy to have more responsibilities than your partner?

The reason I ask is because I've been trying to get back into work for the last 18 months, but it just hasn't been a viable option for me so far. I feel guilty about this, because it means my partner has the pressure of earning enough to support us both, and I'm not pulling my weight. He says that he's happy even if I can never work, and that I do enough just by doing the housework/laundry/cooking/childcare etc.

Should I feel guilty that I'm not fulfilling the same role as him? I love him very much and don't want him to be under extra pressure because of me.


Ok, first of all, most relationships are not equal partnerships. In 99% of relationships, us guys are the ones who'll be doing 99% compromising and 99% of the responsiblities. That's how it works; guys compromise for the gals, so the gals can compromise for the kids.

Wait, I just realized you're a girl... forget everything I said. No, your partner won't care if you stay on as a housewife. If you feel like he's under a lot of stress, just strive to the best housewife you can be and make his after-work hours at home extra special.

I'm not even kidding here, honestly. Don't even bother too much looking for a job unless you really need the money or you're interested in pursuing a career. Your husband won't care if you're a stay-at-home wife.

Peace.


So.....what you're saying is that guys have 99% of the responsibilities, but woman look after the kids? So looking after the kids/home is 1% of the responsibility in a relationship/family.....? :|



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15 Sep 2015, 3:15 pm

Inle wrote:
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Inle wrote:
You can either answer hypothetically, or based on your ltr/'s.

Are you happy for your relationship to not be an entirely equal partnership? Would you be happy to support a partner who doesn't/can't work? Would you be happy to have more responsibilities than your partner?

The reason I ask is because I've been trying to get back into work for the last 18 months, but it just hasn't been a viable option for me so far. I feel guilty about this, because it means my partner has the pressure of earning enough to support us both, and I'm not pulling my weight. He says that he's happy even if I can never work, and that I do enough just by doing the housework/laundry/cooking/childcare etc.

Should I feel guilty that I'm not fulfilling the same role as him? I love him very much and don't want him to be under extra pressure because of me.


Ok, first of all, most relationships are not equal partnerships. In 99% of relationships, us guys are the ones who'll be doing 99% compromising and 99% of the responsiblities. That's how it works; guys compromise for the gals, so the gals can compromise for the kids.

Wait, I just realized you're a girl... forget everything I said. No, your partner won't care if you stay on as a housewife. If you feel like he's under a lot of stress, just strive to the best housewife you can be and make his after-work hours at home extra special.

I'm not even kidding here, honestly. Don't even bother too much looking for a job unless you really need the money or you're interested in pursuing a career. Your husband won't care if you're a stay-at-home wife.

Peace.


So.....what you're saying is that guys have 99% of the responsibilities, but woman look after the kids? So looking after the kids/home is 1% of the responsibility in a relationship/family.....? :|


No, I think he is saying that the woman has %99 percent control over the relationship. So if there is a disagreement the woman will get her way %99 percent of the time. Like I said, there is no way that that kind of relationship can be healthy.



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15 Sep 2015, 3:17 pm

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Hypothetical because I don't have real experience. Yeah I'm not quite sure actually, I guess it would have to do with the reason they're unemployed. If they're just being lazy and not caring about acquiring a job it might make me uneasy. I don't like the idea of someone just quitting their life and setting up camp in mine to just be a leach. But if they're looking and can't get or even find a job then I'd be fine with it. Getting a job these days is hard work, especially if you're ASD.

I dunno why this is just a question for guys though, I'd like to hear a womens thoughts on the same issue of dating an unemployed man.


It's a question for guys because I'm in a relationship with a guy, so I wanted a male perspective. I have no objection to women posting their thoughts though, or LGBT :).

As I said earlier, if I were fit for work, I would be happy to support somebody who was unable to work. Or, if I earned more/if we could manage financially, to support my partner as a stay-at-home parent. Or even work part-time and share the role/s.


Sorry, I was being difficult



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15 Sep 2015, 3:20 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:
Inle wrote:
Gauldoth wrote:
Inle wrote:
You can either answer hypothetically, or based on your ltr/'s.

Are you happy for your relationship to not be an entirely equal partnership? Would you be happy to support a partner who doesn't/can't work? Would you be happy to have more responsibilities than your partner?

The reason I ask is because I've been trying to get back into work for the last 18 months, but it just hasn't been a viable option for me so far. I feel guilty about this, because it means my partner has the pressure of earning enough to support us both, and I'm not pulling my weight. He says that he's happy even if I can never work, and that I do enough just by doing the housework/laundry/cooking/childcare etc.

Should I feel guilty that I'm not fulfilling the same role as him? I love him very much and don't want him to be under extra pressure because of me.


Ok, first of all, most relationships are not equal partnerships. In 99% of relationships, us guys are the ones who'll be doing 99% compromising and 99% of the responsiblities. That's how it works; guys compromise for the gals, so the gals can compromise for the kids.

Wait, I just realized you're a girl... forget everything I said. No, your partner won't care if you stay on as a housewife. If you feel like he's under a lot of stress, just strive to the best housewife you can be and make his after-work hours at home extra special.

I'm not even kidding here, honestly. Don't even bother too much looking for a job unless you really need the money or you're interested in pursuing a career. Your husband won't care if you're a stay-at-home wife.

Peace.


So.....what you're saying is that guys have 99% of the responsibilities, but woman look after the kids? So looking after the kids/home is 1% of the responsibility in a relationship/family.....? :|


No, I think he is saying that the woman has %99 percent control over the relationship. So if there is a disagreement the woman will get her way %99 percent of the time. Like I said, there is no way that that kind of relationship can be healthy.


I see. I am honestly baffled as to why anyone would expect someone to tolerate that. Or, indeed, why someone would tolerate that. I realise he was probably using hyperbole, but still.



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15 Sep 2015, 3:26 pm

Inle wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Inle wrote:
Gauldoth wrote:
Inle wrote:
You can either answer hypothetically, or based on your ltr/'s.

Are you happy for your relationship to not be an entirely equal partnership? Would you be happy to support a partner who doesn't/can't work? Would you be happy to have more responsibilities than your partner?

The reason I ask is because I've been trying to get back into work for the last 18 months, but it just hasn't been a viable option for me so far. I feel guilty about this, because it means my partner has the pressure of earning enough to support us both, and I'm not pulling my weight. He says that he's happy even if I can never work, and that I do enough just by doing the housework/laundry/cooking/childcare etc.

Should I feel guilty that I'm not fulfilling the same role as him? I love him very much and don't want him to be under extra pressure because of me.


Ok, first of all, most relationships are not equal partnerships. In 99% of relationships, us guys are the ones who'll be doing 99% compromising and 99% of the responsiblities. That's how it works; guys compromise for the gals, so the gals can compromise for the kids.

Wait, I just realized you're a girl... forget everything I said. No, your partner won't care if you stay on as a housewife. If you feel like he's under a lot of stress, just strive to the best housewife you can be and make his after-work hours at home extra special.

I'm not even kidding here, honestly. Don't even bother too much looking for a job unless you really need the money or you're interested in pursuing a career. Your husband won't care if you're a stay-at-home wife.

Peace.


So.....what you're saying is that guys have 99% of the responsibilities, but woman look after the kids? So looking after the kids/home is 1% of the responsibility in a relationship/family.....? :|


No, I think he is saying that the woman has %99 percent control over the relationship. So if there is a disagreement the woman will get her way %99 percent of the time. Like I said, there is no way that that kind of relationship can be healthy.


I see. I am honestly baffled as to why anyone would expect someone to tolerate that. Or, indeed, why someone would tolerate that. I realise he was probably using hyperbole, but still.


Desperation. Loneliness can lead people to put up with things they should never have to. Also in a lot of those types of relationships there is often a high amount of emotions abuse. This can cause the person being abused to doubt their self worth. They may think they aren't good enough to be with anyone better or they may be manipulated into thinking they are the ones at fault. Unfortunately I think many aspies can be especially vulnerable to this type of treatment.



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15 Sep 2015, 4:06 pm

In order to prevent this from happening, you have to assert your personhood.

You really have to tell yourself you are a viable person, and that you are progressing in life, and that you will not put up with the crap that some people like to inflict on you.



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15 Sep 2015, 8:20 pm

"Happy wife, happy life" common. To be told to men about relationship advice another one is "the woman is always right even when she's wrong"