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TheSpectrum
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27 Jun 2018, 3:52 pm

HistoryGal wrote:

Need to check themselves....are they pure like St Joseph her most chaste spouse?

Seriously men seem to be able to have a collection of partners while the women are having to be limited.

Why not both genders think a little before hitting the sheets? Relationships aren't all about sex.

Is everything OK? Did something in this forum trigger this reaction?
I have to say I agree with your sentiments.

Also, I hear there is a suicide squad hiring promising VM Purity.
Clue: It's not the DC one with Deadshot and Harley.

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27 Jun 2018, 3:56 pm

Peacesells wrote:

If I have learnt one thing it's that people are entitled to have whatever standars they like and you are not entitled to a relationship with them. :lol:

Annnd I also agree with this. I loathe over entitled people, and people who dictate entitlement equally.

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27 Jun 2018, 4:02 pm

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HistoryGal wrote:

Adam, don't be ridiculous. You are fully aware of the sexual double standards for women. We are talking about sex....not money. That can be a different thread...and a fun topic to kick around.

Right, we wouldn't want to introduce a hint of logic to your debate, would we? Point out your own double standard? It's so much easier when we can just point fingers at men and yell "SEXIST!"

She is being logical. Your attack is a textbook example of "Ad Hominem Tu Quoque".

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27 Jun 2018, 4:09 pm

So you have no problem with a player dude demanding a virgin for a girlfriend?

No entitlement involved. It's about equality for the genders.

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27 Jun 2018, 4:14 pm

HistoryGal wrote:

LOL you don't get it. If you're guy with past sexual partners, it is asinine to expect your next partner to be a virgin. What are you bringing to the table that she would want? I'm against sexual double standards.

We have a right to expect honesty from a partner.

Nobody mentioned money so why the ATM comment?

Of course I understand your point perfectly, it's just that it's wrong. They have absolutely no obligation or requirement whatsoever to give up on a trait they like just because they don't possess it. They are absolutely free to look for whatever they like in a partner and they don't have to give it up to make you happy. You have to accept it and they have to accept the consequences of their actions, if there are any.

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27 Jun 2018, 4:14 pm

HistoryGal wrote:

So you have no problem with a player dude demanding a virgin for a girlfriend?

No entitlement involved. It's about equality for the genders.

Not in the slightest. You seem to think that women don't have the right to say no. As long as they're able to reject any "player dude" they're not interested in, then men and women are 100% equal.

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27 Jun 2018, 4:21 pm

Of course men are free to be a$$holes in demanding their women have a higher standard of purity than they possess. There are several nations in this world where that is acceptable.

I'm not trying to make a law against it here. I'm suggesting it is utterly ridiculous for a man like that to demand purity. Of course women can say no hence some are still virgins.

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27 Jun 2018, 4:30 pm

HistoryGal wrote:

Of course men are free to be a$$holes in demanding their women have a higher standard of purity than they possess... I'm suggesting it is utterly ridiculous for a man like that to demand purity. ...

Yes, it is utterly ridiculous for anyone who is less than perfect to demand perfection from others.

... a divorced person who refuses to date other divorced people.

... a high-school dropout who refuses to date other high-school dropouts.

... a fat slob who refuses to date anyone who is even slightly over-weight.

... a stay-at-home person who refuses to date anyone who doesn't have a job.

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27 Jun 2018, 4:39 pm

Fnord wrote:

HistoryGal wrote:

Of course men are free to be a$$holes in demanding their women have a higher standard of purity than they possess... I'm suggesting it is utterly ridiculous for a man like that to demand purity. ...

People are entitled to look for whatever they like and it's none of your business. It's sad to see adult people who still handle rejection this poorly.
It's not even logical for someone to give up on a trait they like but don't possess because of some empty preachings, when in actuality there's the possibility for them to get what they like.
The fact that they can get what they like even if they don't have it makes it completely logical. Not that it has to be logical, as I said it's really none of your business in any case.

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27 Jun 2018, 4:45 pm

Someone can want whatever they want. It doesn't mean they're going to get it or that they deserve it. But they're free to try to find it, however misguided it may be. It's their choice.

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27 Jun 2018, 4:46 pm

Peacesells wrote:

People are entitled to look for whatever they like and it's none of your business.

Of course! I'm addressing the hypocrisy, not any particular person or instance.

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It's sad to see adult people who still handle rejection this poorly.

Indeed. Some people never learned to deal with rejection. I learned to deal with it after I saw how much crap people in relationships have to put up with. Rejection isn't as bad as some losers might make it out to be; many times, it is actually a blessing!

Peacesells wrote:

It's not even logical for someone to give up on a trait they like but don't possess because of some empty preachings, when in actuality there's the possibility for them to get what they like.

Who said anything about giving up their hypocrisies? Calling out hypocrisy is one thing, prohibiting it is quite another.

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The fact that they can get what they like even if they don't have it makes it completely logical. Not that it has to be logical, as I said it's really none of your business in any case.

Love isn't meant to be logical, it is meant to be enjoyed. So if Jack Sprat and his wife are happy with each other, who has any reason to complain?

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27 Jun 2018, 4:52 pm

HistoryGal wrote:

Years ago when I gave dating sites a try I encountered a few guys who wanted a virgin but flew off the handle when the same requirements are imposed on them. While there are practical inequalities in dating, this isn't one of them. If he wants a virgin he had better be a virgin in my opinion.

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27 Jun 2018, 5:01 pm

I don't see any hypocrisy in that, they are honest about what they want in a long term relationship and don't feel they are required to give it up. They are not necessarily saying that some woman is a filthy whore because she is not a virgin, we need to distinguish between these things. "I don't want to be with you" doesn't always mean "you are a crappy person".

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27 Jun 2018, 5:16 pm

Peacesells wrote:

I don't see any hypocrisy in that, they are honest about what they want in a long term relationship and don't feel they are required to give it up.

This is why there are so many "I can't get a girlfriend" posts on this website -- guys with nothing to offer wanting beautiful women with lots to offer.

Peacesells wrote:

They are not necessarily saying that some woman is a filthy whore because she is not a virgin...

You don't know many religious fundamentalists, do you?

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"I don't want to be with you" doesn't always mean "you are a crappy person".

The key word is "always". Again, read through those "I can't get a girlfriend" threads, and you'll see that this is exactly what some men believe -- to them, "I don't want to be with you" always means "You are a crappy person".

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27 Jun 2018, 5:21 pm

Hahahaha that's funny af that I'm sweating rejection. Married 32 years.

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27 Jun 2018, 5:24 pm

Fnord wrote:

Peacesells wrote:

I don't see any hypocrisy in that, they are honest about what they want in a long term relationship and don't feel they are required to give it up.

This is why there are so many "I can't get a girlfriend" posts on this website -- guys with nothing to offer wanting beautiful women with lots to offer.

The same is true on the other side as well. I've seen girls less attractive say that if you can't pass for Chris Hemsworth, don't bother messaging them. So quit pretending this is a males-only problem.

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