12 Jul 2016, 8:11 pm
12 Jul 2016, 8:19 pm
12 Jul 2016, 8:29 pm
wilburforce wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
Actually, it's possible we are genetically closer to bonobos than chimps.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 11128.html
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5794988/are-huma ... s-changing
What do you think? I mean I think the proof is kind of in the pudding as far as the similarities of chimpanzee behavior and human behavior which I don't think are present in any other species of animals. It's not just the violent antisocial behavior as chimps are pretty sophisticated animals with their use of tools as well which is not known in wild bonobos. They're both the two closest Human relatives so I'm not sure if it matters which one we're closer related to genetically when we exhibit behaviors that are only found in chimps, I feel like there is somewhat of a want for humans to be closer related to bonobos than chimps and these sources talk about wanting to change the narrative which kind of suggests an agenda to me. If humans were more like bonobos I'd think the whole course of human evolution would be different, competition of territory and resources seem definitive when it comes to humanity rather than the cooperative sexual behaviors of bonobos. If humans were more like bonobos then why did they leave Africa in the first place? I don't see human society as something disconnected from evolution.
Didn't you just say the other day you're not interested in anything I have to say and that I'm a terrible person? Have you forgotten the nasty things you said about me? I have not. I simply wanted to provide the above information since people always bring up other higher order primates (and make incorrect inferences about their behaviour) when talking about human dating behaviour because it's easy to compare us to animals and difficult to consider the behaviour of sentient individuals that varies and contains subtleties that animal behaviour does not. I don't want to share my opinions with you personally, just wanted to correct your error for the sake of others reading the thread so as not to allow the propagation of misinformation. Feel free to continue the discussion without my further input.
You've said plenty of nasty things towards me too but I choose not to and try not to hold grudges with people on the internet because I have plenty of real **** in my life to worry about, I see this forum stuff as a nice distraction from all that awfulness because it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things does it? You don't know me and I don't know you so it doesn't make much sense for me to hold on to things like that and I would think the same for you but I really do apologize if I so injured you like that since I was content at leaving that squashed. A recurring issue you've always brought up is that you perceive that people don't listen to you and I literally just asked you right what opinion on something is because I'm genuinely curious since it's an interesting discussion but I guess I just can't win with you.
I am confused, because the last time I posted a comment on something you said you told me not to ever respond to you again. This just happened like maybe a week ago or so. You need to make up your mind. Am I supposed to respond or not? Do you care or do you not care for what I have to say?--because you specifically said that too, that you're not interested in what I have to say about anything. Are you drunk when you make these posts and then don't remember them later or something? Because I remember them pretty clearly and they make conversations with you unpleasant.
I try to squash this with you and extend the olive branch almost every time, I feel like at this point you enjoy this whole song and dance. Did you read my last post in that thread? I know they deleted yours and dox's posts but I responded right about the same time and I don't think my post was deleted. I don't know why you refuse drop it and move on, I was content to but I guess you are not so if you're so confused why the hell did you respond to me in this thread then? You're being purposely obtuse for some reason, it's always something. You really dislike any back and forth for some reason, we can't even talk about apes. I have a lot arguments and debates with people, you are not special. I enjoy it!
12 Jul 2016, 8:32 pm
12 Jul 2016, 8:36 pm
wilburforce wrote:
Bit of a sidenote: bonobos can and do (sometimes) have sex facing each other. I think they are the only other large primate species that do that besides us. Not sure how relevant that is from an anthropological perspective, but it's interesting.
Bonobos are such an interesting species. There's still so much to learn about them. Although Im gad we don't do the have sex with anything that moves that bonobos do
12 Jul 2016, 8:38 pm
Jacoby wrote:
I try to squash this with you and extend the olive branch almost every time, I feel like at this point you enjoy this whole song and dance. Did you read my last post in that thread? I know they deleted yours and dox's posts but I responded right about the same time and I don't think my post was deleted. I don't know why you refuse drop it and move on, I was content to but I guess you are not so if you're so confused why the hell did you respond to me in this thread then? You're being purposely obtuse for some reason, it's always something. You really dislike any back and forth for some reason, we can't even talk about apes. I have a lot arguments and debates with people, you are not special. I enjoy it!
I do not enjoy talking to people who can't argue without being personally nasty. Maybe that's something you enjoy, but not everyone else does. I'm going to take your request to not speak to you as instructional from now on, for that reason. You don't seem capable of disagreeing without being mean and then trying to rescind it later like it's a part of normal banter and debate--but it's not normal for me. I prefer to avoid meanness and mean people, and that's not the kind of discourse I like to have. It's not fun for me.
12 Jul 2016, 8:44 pm
Alliekit wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
Bit of a sidenote: bonobos can and do (sometimes) have sex facing each other. I think they are the only other large primate species that do that besides us. Not sure how relevant that is from an anthropological perspective, but it's interesting.
Bonobos are such an interesting species. There's still so much to learn about them. Although Im gad we don't do the have sex with anything that moves that bonobos do
I can't help but wonder if they will be around in the wild long enough for us to get to know more about them--they are very rare and endangered. I would be surprised if most of the other larger primate species make it into the next century if we don't get a handle on things like climate change and finding renewable resources that are extractable without infringing on the territory of endangered species.
12 Jul 2016, 8:45 pm
12 Jul 2016, 8:53 pm
wilburforce wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I try to squash this with you and extend the olive branch almost every time, I feel like at this point you enjoy this whole song and dance. Did you read my last post in that thread? I know they deleted yours and dox's posts but I responded right about the same time and I don't think my post was deleted. I don't know why you refuse drop it and move on, I was content to but I guess you are not so if you're so confused why the hell did you respond to me in this thread then? You're being purposely obtuse for some reason, it's always something. You really dislike any back and forth for some reason, we can't even talk about apes. I have a lot arguments and debates with people, you are not special. I enjoy it!
I do not enjoy talking to people who can't argue without being personally nasty. Maybe that's something you enjoy, but not everyone else does. I'm going to take your request to not speak to you as instructional from now on, for that reason. You don't seem capable of disagreeing without being mean and then trying to rescind it later like it's a part of normal banter and debate--but it's not normal for me. I prefer to avoid meanness and mean people, and that's not the kind of discourse I like to have. It's not fun for me.
How was I mean or nasty to you in this thread? You responded to my post then I responded to yours I think in a completely benign way, you go on and on about how people don't listen to you and then when I try to talk to you like a normal person you start this spiel about how I told you to never talk to me ever again and now I apparently don't seem capable of disagreeing with people without being mean. It it so confusing why did you do that in the first place? I feel like you're projecting, I really don't understand. I guess I was unaware of how sensitive of a subject matter apes were to you.
12 Jul 2016, 9:02 pm
12 Jul 2016, 9:12 pm
Jacoby wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I try to squash this with you and extend the olive branch almost every time, I feel like at this point you enjoy this whole song and dance. Did you read my last post in that thread? I know they deleted yours and dox's posts but I responded right about the same time and I don't think my post was deleted. I don't know why you refuse drop it and move on, I was content to but I guess you are not so if you're so confused why the hell did you respond to me in this thread then? You're being purposely obtuse for some reason, it's always something. You really dislike any back and forth for some reason, we can't even talk about apes. I have a lot arguments and debates with people, you are not special. I enjoy it!
I do not enjoy talking to people who can't argue without being personally nasty. Maybe that's something you enjoy, but not everyone else does. I'm going to take your request to not speak to you as instructional from now on, for that reason. You don't seem capable of disagreeing without being mean and then trying to rescind it later like it's a part of normal banter and debate--but it's not normal for me. I prefer to avoid meanness and mean people, and that's not the kind of discourse I like to have. It's not fun for me.
How was I mean or nasty to you in this thread? You responded to my post then I responded to yours I think in a completely benign way, you go on and on about how people don't listen to you and then when I try to talk to you like a normal person you start this spiel about how I told you to never talk to me ever again and now I apparently don't seem capable of disagreeing with people without being mean. It it so confusing why did you do that in the first place? I feel like you're projecting, I really don't understand. I guess I was unaware of how sensitive of a subject matter apes were to you.
Now I'm thinking it might be possible I have mixed you up with another commenter, whose name I think is Jamesy. If that is the case then I apologise.
12 Jul 2016, 9:14 pm
wilburforce wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I try to squash this with you and extend the olive branch almost every time, I feel like at this point you enjoy this whole song and dance. Did you read my last post in that thread? I know they deleted yours and dox's posts but I responded right about the same time and I don't think my post was deleted. I don't know why you refuse drop it and move on, I was content to but I guess you are not so if you're so confused why the hell did you respond to me in this thread then? You're being purposely obtuse for some reason, it's always something. You really dislike any back and forth for some reason, we can't even talk about apes. I have a lot arguments and debates with people, you are not special. I enjoy it!
I do not enjoy talking to people who can't argue without being personally nasty. Maybe that's something you enjoy, but not everyone else does. I'm going to take your request to not speak to you as instructional from now on, for that reason. You don't seem capable of disagreeing without being mean and then trying to rescind it later like it's a part of normal banter and debate--but it's not normal for me. I prefer to avoid meanness and mean people, and that's not the kind of discourse I like to have. It's not fun for me.
How was I mean or nasty to you in this thread? You responded to my post then I responded to yours I think in a completely benign way, you go on and on about how people don't listen to you and then when I try to talk to you like a normal person you start this spiel about how I told you to never talk to me ever again and now I apparently don't seem capable of disagreeing with people without being mean. It it so confusing why did you do that in the first place? I feel like you're projecting, I really don't understand. I guess I was unaware of how sensitive of a subject matter apes were to you.
Now I'm thinking it might be possible I have mixed you up with another commenter, whose name I think is Jamesy. If that is the case then I apologise.
I've done that before I keep getting them both confused
12 Jul 2016, 9:16 pm
12 Jul 2016, 9:22 pm
It seems I have no choice but to eliminate this Jamesy for ruining my good name 
12 Jul 2016, 9:47 pm
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