Online dating is pointless as a guy
RetroGamer87
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Outrider wrote:
Its just been my experiences their most common advice is "learn to be happy being on your own" when they rarely had to try, they were just naturally the type of person who is content being alone. Some arent so lucky.
They assume its as easy for others as it is for them.
Its not bad advice but its also not applicable to everyones life.
They assume its as easy for others as it is for them.
Its not bad advice but its also not applicable to everyones life.
I completely agree with you Outrider, we are all different with our intimacy needs.
Yes, I am someone who can be content with long periods of being alone but I know plenty of people who cannot stand being in their own company for too long.
And yes generic advice does not apply to all no matter how sensible it sounds.
Each of us have our own individual needs.
My heart goes out to anyone who is struggling with loneliness. It is something which is not discussed enough, including the impact it has on ones mental health. Whenever I read a therapy book it is mostly about sadness and fear or depression and anxiety. Very seldom is loneliness given the weight it deserves and the suffering caused by it.
I hope you guys realise you are educating me and this may help someone else in the future.
RetroGamer87 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
314pe wrote:
I think that the main issue is how modern media idealizes relationships. People nowadays expect to see a spark on the first date. I mean, sure, fireworks are cool, but back in the old days a rose was enough. 
I always brought a single pink rose to first dates.
Good idea. I should try that.
Flower shop always made it look nice too. They’d add some green stuff and flowers, then wrap it all with green paper and a cup of water in the bottom for the stem, then tie a bow around it
GiantHockeyFan wrote:
sly279 wrote:
They don’t have to be single, there’s a surpluse of guys in my area, not a single woman here is has to be single if she doesn’t want to. They lie there is no shortage of men here.
I always shook my head whenever I would read a woman's profile whining about how all men are jerks, why are there no decent men on these sites, blah blah blah. I would usually (foolishly) write them a quick, friendly hello and without fail, would not only get ignored but would also see them update their profiles indicating that not one decent man had contacted them. I was stupid enough to date one of these types of women who at 22 had more ex's than a tic tac toe tournament. If I had my time back, I should have trolled them and said "did you ever think for a second that maybe, just maybe the problem is you and your unrealistic expectations?"
I couldn't stop laughing when my ex randomly texted me about how she was too good for someone like me. She was overweight (and gained a ton of weight after I left her), had no job, no license, was not in school, had no ambition and was supported by a trust fund. Only someone who used an online dating site could say such a delusional thing.
Don’t you know there’s a man shortage. There’s noe real men. In their eyes there’s 5 women to every man. They are so delusional as there’s 3,000 more men here and men are everywhere. They just created the perfect guy in their head and won’t even acknowledge any man who doesn’t meet that as even existing.
Least you have a good job and stuff so you meet a lot of women’s idea guy requirements.
Sabreclaw wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
314pe wrote:
For some people, the idea of perfect love is better than imperfect real love. Even on WP, some say that they would rather stay single than make compromises.
Have you thought that some people actually want to stay single because they’re happy?
And are you happy? You sure do take a lot of interest in this subject. If you don't have a partner and you're not looking for one, what draws you to these threads?
I’m definitely not looking. I’m saving for a house for myself only, so I’m serious about it. I come in here because I find the topic interesting. It’s not because I want a date.
Human romance is one of the very interesting topics about human social dynamics. I’ve dabbled in dating sites iver the years but didn’t take them that seriously. I’ve since deleted all my profiles.
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314pe wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
314pe wrote:
For some people, the idea of perfect love is better than imperfect real love. Even on WP, some say that they would rather stay single than make compromises.
Have you thought that some people actually want to stay single because they’re happy?
Why would they join online dating sites or write in "love and dating" subforum?
Because it’s the most interesting topic? Does anybody really come in here to get dates out of this sub-forum?
GiantHockeyFan wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Yet somewhere out there there's probably some delusional person who would condemn you and defend her.
HAHA I actually cut this line from my original message. I have no doubt she tells everyone how horrible I am for:
Breaking up via text/email (after she threw a violent temper the first two times I tried to do it privately and never apologized: I once actually debated slipping a gas station clerk a note to call 911 and stop my car)
Dumping her stuff in her parent's driveway (after she refused to take it back or arrange to have it picked up),
Throwing her out of my apartment (after she nearly got me evicted)
Yelling at her repeatedly and even threatening her (guilty, but nearly every sane person would have eventually done the same. Never mind how she used to throw stuff all the time.)
How 'greedy' I was for demanding monetary compensation after a few months (never mind she lived 40+km away)
Other adult stuff (where she was the 'aggressor', not me.)
I saw her brother and father at a hockey game last year (I swear I really do other activities!!) and made sure not to be anywhere alone around them as no doubt they think I am a complete monster. I will also never forget this summer I was walking with my wife and spotted her on my street. I quickly jumped into my car like a sniper was after me. My wife commented "you are being ridiculous" to which I replied "spoken by a sane, normal, healthy woman". She cyber-stalked her for a couple of YEARS after the breakup and I wouldn't put anything past her. Turns out she probably doesn't know I live there and is dating someone a couple of streets over. I have to resist saying to the new guy (who looks quite normal) ""hey, call me if you need to be bailed out of jail". Poor guy has no idea what he is in for once she 'splits' on him.
In short, she would NEVER get a date from a 'normal' man if she didn't go online with their skewed gender ratios. I still shake my head at women with inflated egos demanding the world and offering almost nothing in return... and men still continue to date them.
Yikes. That’s tricky, thank god you are out of it. Sounds like a basket case.
RetroGamer87
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Temeraire wrote:
My heart goes out to anyone who is struggling with loneliness. It is something which is not discussed enough, including the impact it has on ones mental health. Whenever I read a therapy book it is mostly about sadness and fear or depression and anxiety. Very seldom is loneliness given the weight it deserves and the suffering caused by it.
True. Loneliness can have a massive impact on mental health. To make matters worse lonely people also have to put up with people calling them creeps and losers. That almost seems like victim blaming.
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hale_bopp wrote:
GiantHockeyFan wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Yet somewhere out there there's probably some delusional person who would condemn you and defend her.
HAHA I actually cut this line from my original message. I have no doubt she tells everyone how horrible I am for:
Breaking up via text/email (after she threw a violent temper the first two times I tried to do it privately and never apologized: I once actually debated slipping a gas station clerk a note to call 911 and stop my car)
Dumping her stuff in her parent's driveway (after she refused to take it back or arrange to have it picked up),
Throwing her out of my apartment (after she nearly got me evicted)
Yelling at her repeatedly and even threatening her (guilty, but nearly every sane person would have eventually done the same. Never mind how she used to throw stuff all the time.)
How 'greedy' I was for demanding monetary compensation after a few months (never mind she lived 40+km away)
Other adult stuff (where she was the 'aggressor', not me.)
I saw her brother and father at a hockey game last year (I swear I really do other activities!!) and made sure not to be anywhere alone around them as no doubt they think I am a complete monster. I will also never forget this summer I was walking with my wife and spotted her on my street. I quickly jumped into my car like a sniper was after me. My wife commented "you are being ridiculous" to which I replied "spoken by a sane, normal, healthy woman". She cyber-stalked her for a couple of YEARS after the breakup and I wouldn't put anything past her. Turns out she probably doesn't know I live there and is dating someone a couple of streets over. I have to resist saying to the new guy (who looks quite normal) ""hey, call me if you need to be bailed out of jail". Poor guy has no idea what he is in for once she 'splits' on him.
In short, she would NEVER get a date from a 'normal' man if she didn't go online with their skewed gender ratios. I still shake my head at women with inflated egos demanding the world and offering almost nothing in return... and men still continue to date them.
Yikes. That’s tricky, thank god you are out of it. Sounds like a basket case.
Does sound like he is better out of it.
There are women out there that give the rest of us a bad name, just as there are men out there that give the rest of them a bad name.
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Temeraire wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
GiantHockeyFan wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Yet somewhere out there there's probably some delusional person who would condemn you and defend her.
HAHA I actually cut this line from my original message. I have no doubt she tells everyone how horrible I am for:
Breaking up via text/email (after she threw a violent temper the first two times I tried to do it privately and never apologized: I once actually debated slipping a gas station clerk a note to call 911 and stop my car)
Dumping her stuff in her parent's driveway (after she refused to take it back or arrange to have it picked up),
Throwing her out of my apartment (after she nearly got me evicted)
Yelling at her repeatedly and even threatening her (guilty, but nearly every sane person would have eventually done the same. Never mind how she used to throw stuff all the time.)
How 'greedy' I was for demanding monetary compensation after a few months (never mind she lived 40+km away)
Other adult stuff (where she was the 'aggressor', not me.)
I saw her brother and father at a hockey game last year (I swear I really do other activities!!) and made sure not to be anywhere alone around them as no doubt they think I am a complete monster. I will also never forget this summer I was walking with my wife and spotted her on my street. I quickly jumped into my car like a sniper was after me. My wife commented "you are being ridiculous" to which I replied "spoken by a sane, normal, healthy woman". She cyber-stalked her for a couple of YEARS after the breakup and I wouldn't put anything past her. Turns out she probably doesn't know I live there and is dating someone a couple of streets over. I have to resist saying to the new guy (who looks quite normal) ""hey, call me if you need to be bailed out of jail". Poor guy has no idea what he is in for once she 'splits' on him.
In short, she would NEVER get a date from a 'normal' man if she didn't go online with their skewed gender ratios. I still shake my head at women with inflated egos demanding the world and offering almost nothing in return... and men still continue to date them.
Yikes. That’s tricky, thank god you are out of it. Sounds like a basket case.
Does sound like he is better out of it.
There are women out there that give the rest of us a bad name, just as there are men out there that give the rest of them a bad name.
Very true. We all need to stop generalising so much.
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hale_bopp wrote:
Yikes. That’s tricky, thank god you are out of it. Sounds like a basket case.
Imagine if I had to get her pregnant! At least most crazy women have an income, this one still doesn't have a job to this day although I think she finally graduated College after 7 tries. I think this is a perfect example of no matter how lonely you are, any decision made based on fear (in this case, fear of being undateable and fear of never finding anyone else) is one you are going to regret.
My wife was upset about something recently and told me how she doesn't want to be clingy or needy. I had to restrain from laughing and saying "you have NO IDEA what I had to put up with before!" Crazy literally was sick every single week and if I managed to get off the phone in 30 minutes or less without her crying it was a miracle. At one point I had enough and turned off my phone: she called about 20 times and texted me 60 times in an hour! I was so naïve I actually thought this was somewhat normal female behavior!!
I once talked with her last 'employer' who used to call her as an emergency fill in (after we broke up). She told me how they ignore her calls now and then laughed and told me "I'm surprised she hasn't keyed your car yet". I replied "so, that's where that scratch came from."
I guess the point I am trying to make is that online dating might be miserable when you don't get any replies, but it can get FAR more miserable when you get responses and dates from messed up people. What an idiot I was but at least I can come here to WP and share my experience hoping nobody goes through the same thing I did: we aspies are like sitting ducks thanks to our naivety and inexperience.
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GiantHockeyFan wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Yikes. That’s tricky, thank god you are out of it. Sounds like a basket case.
Imagine if I had to get her pregnant! At least most crazy women have an income, this one still doesn't have a job to this day although I think she finally graduated College after 7 tries. I think this is a perfect example of no matter how lonely you are, any decision made based on fear (in this case, fear of being undateable and fear of never finding anyone else) is one you are going to regret.
My wife was upset about something recently and told me how she doesn't want to be clingy or needy. I had to restrain from laughing and saying "you have NO IDEA what I had to put up with before!" Crazy literally was sick every single week and if I managed to get off the phone in 30 minutes or less without her crying it was a miracle. At one point I had enough and turned off my phone: she called about 20 times and texted me 60 times in an hour! I was so naïve I actually thought this was somewhat normal female behavior!!
I once talked with her last 'employer' who used to call her as an emergency fill in (after we broke up). She told me how they ignore her calls now and then laughed and told me "I'm surprised she hasn't keyed your car yet". I replied "so, that's where that scratch came from."
I guess the point I am trying to make is that online dating might be miserable when you don't get any replies, but it can get FAR more miserable when you get responses and dates from messed up people. What an idiot I was but at least I can come here to WP and share my experience hoping nobody goes through the same thing I did: we aspies are like sitting ducks thanks to our naivety and inexperience.
Yes, be careful what you wish for because you may just get it.
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
It is not??
/shocked.
/shocked.
My wife rarely calls and never texts me and my last relationship was also with someone who probably considered me needy... and I texted or called an average of once a day.
Temeraire wrote:
Yes, be careful what you wish for because you may just get it.
Precisely. If I wasn't "desperate" (hate that word) for a girlfriend I would not have explained away her odd behavior as a weird anomaly that was somehow my fault and would have thrown her number out the first time she had an outburst on date #3. I am certain behind my back everyone was thinking "what does he see in her?"
GiantHockeyFan wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
It is not??
/shocked.
/shocked.
My wife rarely calls and never texts me and my last relationship was also with someone who probably considered me needy... and I texted or called an average of once a day.
Temeraire wrote:
Yes, be careful what you wish for because you may just get it.
Precisely. If I wasn't "desperate" (hate that word) for a girlfriend I would not have explained away her odd behavior as a weird anomaly that was somehow my fault and would have thrown her number out the first time she had an outburst on date #3. I am certain behind my back everyone was thinking "what does he see in her?"
Yes, the warning signs are there but sometimes we can be blinded by a strong desire for connection - it is in our DNA and we can't help it because we are human which makes us social creatures.
Perhaps you can get a few people together and make a guide to online dating for auties. There are plenty of people on here with both horror stories and happy endings.
If you used the experience you may feel less regret.
