Living with parents kind of puts the kibosh on dating?

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25 Jul 2018, 8:42 pm

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One shouldn't talk bad about someone else's kids.

That's just a basic law of humanity.

Says who? And said kid is an adult. Means bea talking about me I’m someone’s kid. So why aren’t you telling her to not talk about me? Beas a hateful hypocrite.
She’s all high and mighty abiut how males here should be independent and earn money all while her daughter doesn’t. I, very much like her daughter only difference is I have a pensis and came from a poor family who’s parents didn’t own a home.



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25 Jul 2018, 8:44 pm

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*Granted, sly has never expressed an interest in working more or full time. He’s made posts like “Why would a guy want tools as a gift? So he can do work - no thanks!” That sort of thing. Whereas for myself, when my symptoms were strong and I could Not work, I Wanted to work, to pull my own weight, to make my father proud that he’s raised his son with a solid work ethic, and I was, in part, motivated to overcome my symptoms And get fit so that I Could work - and I’ve been busting it for the last 5 years and have no intentions of ever stopping. Sly doesn’t have that same drive, and that’s part of what constrains him from working and earning more.. but he’s still impaired by ASD and other disabilities much like your daughter, so sh*****g all over him for it because he has a penis between his legs is seriously bad form.


Want and can is different things, I can’t handle full time work doesn’t mean I don’t want it or wanted it. I certainly wish I could work a 9-5 office job making middle class income, buy a new bmw and drive it home to my 4 bedroom house every night. But I wasn’t born right and can’t handle full time work.
I don’t have competitive drive which is what makes people ambitious so they can be better then others and mock them for it


Why can’t you handle full time work, sly?

Pushing a broom for 8h a day is not that hard. Stocking grocery store shelves is not that hard. Shelving books at the library is not that hard. Etc.

There are easy jobs for physically weak and/or lazy people that MANY people toil aaay at for 8h a day because they need money to live.


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25 Jul 2018, 8:45 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
One shouldn't talk bad about someone else's kids.

That's just a basic law of humanity.


Only Bea is doing that here.


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25 Jul 2018, 8:46 pm

You don't have to believe what she's saying.

I just feel this is a useless argument that will get nowhere. Nothing will get resolved.

People will get upset.

It's all useless.

I know that you, Sly, are not a leech. I know you are trying hard.



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25 Jul 2018, 8:46 pm

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I unfortunately am just a average aspie, no special skills or talents for me. So unlike other aspies I’m worse off. I envy those with special talents that offset our disorder and give them usefulness in a materialistic world


Sly, there are light duty jobs you could manage to do full time that don’t require special skills or talents if you wanted to.

I’ve done MANY of these types of jobs. I’ve been doing some of them this week & actually thought of you. I mean, how hard is it to walk around holding a beeping stick and checking the lcd screen for elevation and then spray painting numbers on the ground? Hardest part is staying awake in the heat after only a few hours sleep! Lol Then there’s general construction site cleanup, hardly ever lift anything over 40lbs and there’s nothing gross or rotten - just scraps of wood and sawdust and off-cuts of pvc pipe etc to toss in a dumpster.

There are MANY other jobs out there that require minimal skills, expertise, training, or interaction with people. You just have to have the will to do one of them.

Maybe going on these few dates will give you a “Why,” a reason to push yourself to work more, simply so you can either afford to treat this lady to nights out, or bank the coin to date others in the future, or even just to hold your head a little higher and think, “f**k yeah I’m working full time, I got this!”


It’s not the tasks it’s the hours.

I might been able to do packaging or factory line jobs but all those are gone, shipped to China or automated



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25 Jul 2018, 8:48 pm

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You don't have to believe what she's saying.

I just feel this is a useless argument that will get nowhere. Nothing will get resolved.

People will get upset.

It's all useless.

I know that you, Sly, are not a leech. I know you are trying hard.


Not according to bea and others here. And I get it from all over internet and at work sometimess. Thankful I wear headphones on bus.



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25 Jul 2018, 8:49 pm

Who tells you this at work?



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25 Jul 2018, 8:50 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
You don't have to believe what she's saying.

I just feel this is a useless argument that will get nowhere. Nothing will get resolved.

People will get upset.

It's all useless.

I know that you, Sly, are not a leech. I know you are trying hard.


I don’t feel it’s a useless argument so long as Bea learns something from it.. like the fact that young people DO work hard and simply don’t have the same $ or purchasing power to show for it as our parents did. And also that it’s hella hypocritical to rip on young males for not being financially independent while her own daughter depends on taxpayer handouts for shelter - pretty rude. Hopefully she learns something from this discussion. Oh, and also not to bash sly while accepting the same shortcomings of her daughter.


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25 Jul 2018, 8:51 pm

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*Granted, sly has never expressed an interest in working more or full time. He’s made posts like “Why would a guy want tools as a gift? So he can do work - no thanks!” That sort of thing. Whereas for myself, when my symptoms were strong and I could Not work, I Wanted to work, to pull my own weight, to make my father proud that he’s raised his son with a solid work ethic, and I was, in part, motivated to overcome my symptoms And get fit so that I Could work - and I’ve been busting it for the last 5 years and have no intentions of ever stopping. Sly doesn’t have that same drive, and that’s part of what constrains him from working and earning more.. but he’s still impaired by ASD and other disabilities much like your daughter, so sh*****g all over him for it because he has a penis between his legs is seriously bad form.


Want and can is different things, I can’t handle full time work doesn’t mean I don’t want it or wanted it. I certainly wish I could work a 9-5 office job making middle class income, buy a new bmw and drive it home to my 4 bedroom house every night. But I wasn’t born right and can’t handle full time work.
I don’t have competitive drive which is what makes people ambitious so they can be better then others and mock them for it


Why can’t you handle full time work, sly?

Pushing a broom for 8h a day is not that hard. Stocking grocery store shelves is not that hard. Shelving books at the library is not that hard. Etc.

There are easy jobs for physically weak and/or lazy people that MANY people toil aaay at for 8h a day because they need money to live.



I get it I’m just a horrible lazy leache, mentall disabilities don’t exist etc etc etc



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25 Jul 2018, 8:54 pm

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sly279 wrote:
I unfortunately am just a average aspie, no special skills or talents for me. So unlike other aspies I’m worse off. I envy those with special talents that offset our disorder and give them usefulness in a materialistic world


Sly, there are light duty jobs you could manage to do full time that don’t require special skills or talents if you wanted to.

I’ve done MANY of these types of jobs. I’ve been doing some of them this week & actually thought of you. I mean, how hard is it to walk around holding a beeping stick and checking the lcd screen for elevation and then spray painting numbers on the ground? Hardest part is staying awake in the heat after only a few hours sleep! Lol Then there’s general construction site cleanup, hardly ever lift anything over 40lbs and there’s nothing gross or rotten - just scraps of wood and sawdust and off-cuts of pvc pipe etc to toss in a dumpster.

There are MANY other jobs out there that require minimal skills, expertise, training, or interaction with people. You just have to have the will to do one of them.

Maybe going on these few dates will give you a “Why,” a reason to push yourself to work more, simply so you can either afford to treat this lady to nights out, or bank the coin to date others in the future, or even just to hold your head a little higher and think, “f**k yeah I’m working full time, I got this!”


It’s not the tasks it’s the hours.

I might been able to do packaging or factory line jobs but all those are gone, shipped to China or automated


What happens after x# of hours into a work day that prevents you from completing 8 hours?


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25 Jul 2018, 8:59 pm

I painted my entire house, fix the plumbing, doors, hardware, cars etc. & suddenly it's ME who's the dependant?

Nope, good luck to all the older folks who think they can run the world without us. It's just like rich Republicans deporting the poor dudes mowing their lawns. People can cast me in the diminutive all day but that has nothing to do with the fact that I'm plain old handy.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that equating years of honest work for pennies to loserdom is weak. That's not an attitude that encourages my providing you any free tech support.

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25 Jul 2018, 9:02 pm

The problem is with the decreasing birth rates we won’t have enough work force to provide and care for all the retiring oldies.



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25 Jul 2018, 9:02 pm

CBerg, you know you are not "dependent," and not sponging off your parents.

And I know that, too.



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25 Jul 2018, 9:04 pm

It is a very different situation in 2018 than it was in the 1980s, when I started living on my own.



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25 Jul 2018, 9:06 pm

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The problem is with the decreasing birth rates we won’t have enough work force to provide and care for all the retiring oldies.


You and cberg both nailed this.

This is why I inform tight fisted old rich people who complain about the cost of skilled labour that they haven’t seen anything yet. Just wait another 5-10 years and a service call from any tradesman is going to cost a few hundred dollars just to show up at your door with tools, and then an hourly rate that’ll make their heads spin.


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25 Jul 2018, 9:09 pm

It already does.....about 10 years ago, I got charged $250 just for a visit from a plumber.