Why do almost all 'incels' blame their situation on looks?

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I think in poorer countries people actually need each other to survive. The option to just pick up your toys and go home or 'no-fault' out isn't there in a country with no social security, no system to take care of you in old age, and where you need your spouse and children as much as they need you.

As far as video games and porn - I can't speak for every guy or girl on this (or those in the incel/femcel phenomena) - but if a person dives head-long into that I'd get the impression in more cases or not that enough people have told them to sod off and it's part of them saying 'Okay - I will then', ie. more effect or coping mechanism than cause.

Thinking-Ape on the new Joker movie. I haven't seen it, he may be reading a bit much into it but at the same time I do get his concerns:

But even so, where there's a skewed male-to-female ratio, it's inevitable that some men will miss out.

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

As far as video games and porn - I can't speak for every guy or girl on this (or those in the incel/femcel phenomena) - but if a person dives head-long into that I'd get the impression in more cases or not that enough people have told them to sod off and it's part of them saying 'Okay - I will then', ie. more effect or coping mechanism than cause.

I would agree with this. I don't think videogame or porn addictions are generally the root problems (though in some cases, they may be). I think more often than not, they're symptoms instead.

Someone posted a ContraPoints video on another site called 'Men' and somewhere in it CP brought up something I'd sort of heard before, at least in terms of a wider intelligence curve for men, but CP actually showed a pie-chart that seemed to indicate 3:1 male to female diversity (I originally said biodiversity but that wouldn't makes sense, would probably have to be neurodiversity, hormonal, etc.).

Remember when i was talking about how deadly-serious people take social and even neurological conformity? If this is the case that will hit guys more just for there being more men who are 'freaks' in every way between good, bad, indifferent, it's technically almost all punishing if the 'good' society is weighing most human beings against is how well they measure against the center of the curve.

I’ve actually listened to an interview with an Indian incel and watched a video interview with a Chinese incel. IIRC, the Indian man didn’t like the woman he was arranged to be married to and the Chinese man was the victim of ‘tiger parenting’.

I also found this article: https://www.google.com/amp/s/melmagazin ... munity/amp

On another note, I’ve talked to an Aussie incel named Seb. He is Italian Australian but says his “swarthy” skin tone makes him come off as Arabic and he thinks this makes him unattractive to women.

First. There’s a lot of crime, rape and murder in those 3rd world contriesl so yeah less intel violence if they can just go rape women and get away with it cause their gang(tribe, gov military whatever) is in charge. Hear of women being raped and having their boobs chopped off. Tons of genocide too.

Porn, gaming isn’t creating isolation it’s the result of isolation.
I’d go crazy with out them. I’d sit bored and frustrated in my room until I went crazy.

China has huge issues, to many men, not enough women in a culture where men are expect to marry and continue the family name. It’s also an. Totalitarian regime where any such incel crime would be, covered up and swept up. Anyone that disagrees with the regime disappears. Even use tourist will disappear if we use western maps.

India has issues too but at least their ratio is better. And they have arranged marriages y class(so no real incel problem cause their parents will arrange a woman for them)

Sorry banning porn and gaming would just make the issue worse.
Taking alway people’s way to cope and vent means, they find other ways to cope or vent, or build it up until they snap. And the ways they vent might nit b good either.

Do you think if we bannsuch things single guys will just start hitting the gym and becoming attractive and live happy ever after?

Our society has been becoming more and more isolated for my whole lifetime. Technology causes it and not just modern technology.

Some good points here. You take away people's coping mechanisms and they're not going to feel any less frustrated about being alone.

Rainbow_Belle, what you essentially have to be saying here for your assertion to be valid is that porn and videogames are to blame for men not being able to get girlfriends or wives, but there are plenty of men who watch porn and play videogames who can get girlfriends, maybe even addicted to one or both of those things. There are also guys who watch porn and play videogames infrequently or never who cannot get girlfriends or wives, so how would banning porn, videogames or both make it so that men who can currently not get girlfriends, will be able to get girlfriends? Where is your proof that videogame and porn addictions are the root problem and not merely symptomatic?

The whole feminism thing is a game. "Gender equality" only seems to benefit women more than men. Even the name feminism is sexist.

This can be blamed on the rise of social media and related kind of apps.

If only society listened to men's focuses and problems more than it does to women's. I think this goes back to how men are supposed to always be the "strong" one at all times who doesn't complain about any issues.

I think there are some benefits of living in a conservative culture.

I'll oppose banning porn anyway, even though I think what you bring up is a decent point by the anti-porn. But I don't know if banning or restricting it will only make people more violent prone or sexually frustrated.

Online gaming?

Why not just ban the internet, the whole thing.

People are a spectrum, and sh***y people will behave in a sh***y way, no matter the medium.

There would be no porn for these 'incels' if women were not posing for pictures and blowing tramps for likes.

Whose fault is it now?

Seriously, ffs.

I'm definitely on the side of agreeing with OP: a lot of these incels are very obviously on the spectrum. I think some of the reason most of them aren't willing to disclose it boils down to social stigma (they'd feel like they'd be taken less serious if people knew they were autistic), as well as self-loathing (they feel as though by blaming their problems on 'looks' instead of their autism they can run away from the reality of their condition).

You should add Doctor to your profile.

Yeah, but I don't think their disabilities are "only autism". There are also other conditions that mimic autism symptoms sometimes.