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What about Cristiano Ronaldo?

His transformation in 5 years is bit...fast but he's a footballer, those guys train every day ( and not like Hollywood actors who transform just before a movie), they follow a strict diet and are regularly tested (Fifa is strict regarding steroids), plus they get access to many facilities: trainers, advisers, special food, etc.... so I wouldn't assume he's on steroids or even GH but no one can be 100% sure he's not on something - but I lean to believe he's natural.

Also he's a poseur (and makes big bucks out of ads too), so he would train extra for shape than other footballers.


in 2003:




in 2004 or 2005:



in 2010:

Can you stop using the word whining and the typical "you're whining" here? This is like the Xth you're accusing me of that, this is a real discussion topic, so refrain from throwing empty weak accusations and assumptions.

What would you think if someone says you're "whining" about anorexic models because you're "fat"? Only if it's true that you're whining that doesn't make the anorexia trend less real.





MrMajor, glow, Ladywoof and other members on WP have been posting bodies pics here and there which are very similar to Stallone (and worse, Stallone looks skinny compared to what was being posted), aren't they women too?






Equating for the tiny % of adult women who lust for Anime characters (and usually not serious lust) with the masses of adult women's new generation who openly lust for unnatural male bodies is ridiculous - the latter have way much more impact.

I meant retro, I didn't notice I've made a typo.

I´d say, that person would be whining about me being fat. XD Whining means, making a fuss out of nothing. If someones whines around because of me being fat, then he whines around about nothing that is of any importancy of him and about nothing that would have any negative impact on his life, so I think the term whining about someone whining around about something of absolutly no importance for him, like me being fat, was someone that simply liked to whine. So beside my partner, I wouldnt know, how my body weight could have an importency fo a person beside me, so if someones would whine because of my body weight, it would be a sign for me, for a person that simply uses every nonsense cause he can get to whine around, because of him feeling more important when whining. Sadly it has the absolute opposite effect. Sooner o later you simply stop taking that person serious.

As you yourself declared two posts ahead, the stuff you were "fussing about" 14 pages before, has no effect because of being phantasy pictures, that dont hurt anyone. So you "fussed" about something, that has no importancy and that doesnt effect anyone, as you even declared yourself 2 posts above, So if you pretend to be troubled by something, that you yourself declare to be absolute not important some pages on, dont blame others.



Nope, they seem for you very similar to Stallone, and you are no woman. If they were so similar to Stallone, do you think our female world conspiracy have built own cinemas, so we can watch Sylvester Stallone films secretly, so that we can pretend before others, that most women are not interested in him, while in reality we are all meeting in those ultra-hyper-secret-female-conspiracy-cinemas and watching Ramog all day, while getting wet trousers? Honestly, how many women do you know cheering when its about the new Rambo, Rocky, or Terminator film? How many do you know that were exited about the existence of an new Conan film? How many do you know, that even know, that there had been a new Conan film 2 years ago? ^^



[/quoet] Yop absolutly. It must be just as horrible as the brutal impact that the 70ies and 80ies stuff like Heavy Metal Fakk had for the boys. Luckily these male generations idols hat natural bodies and no unnatural bodies.

Yop, sure there are some dumbasses, that got so weird, that the couldnt tell anymore that there is a difference between reality and phantasy. But thats not bothering me as a woman, because I simply dont need to agree into an relationship which such a guy. Just as a girl, looking for "The Prince of Persia" doesnt need to bother you, because you simply dont need to agree to have an relationship with such a person. The one that are bothered by that expectations, are the ones that have that expectations themselves. Because they are the ones, that will never ever find partners, meeting their expectations, and that will be unhappy because of their own expectations. If a girl bothers herself, with telling herself that her "prince" has to look like the "Prince of Persia", then she is the one having troubles, not you. How the hell are you affected by that? There are tons of animes, with girls that have boobs that are three times larger as their head. And? If I meet a boy, having such expectations on women, there is nothing bad about someone giving me a opportunity to laugh half of the day, because of that stupidity. There is nothing bad about laughing. You dont need to bother yourself about that, thats nothing else like the people watching to many Hollywood romance films, and that have because of that the feelings in an expectations that an relationship will be for all time, like the feelings you had during the first months. They simply wont accept, that you simply get an physical hormon-helper for the beginning, but then you need to work on your relationship. No, according to them, it must be like this forever, and when it isnt like that anymore, it means the relationship has to be ended. The partners they leave, with realistic expecations, are sooner or later all in relationships, having families and so on... While the ones looking for the perfect parter, to share their life with them, having feelings of a new romance forever, simply get more and more frustrated, because of them not finding that perfect partner. People having such unreal expections, hurt simply themselves, not you, because they will be the ones, that will never find their phantasy-partner they dream of.

The evidence is there on the 'net when you read threads in the men's fitness community. Lots of unhealthy practices going on there just to look a certain way, particularly with guys who are socially awkward and don't know how to talk to girls.

I was thinking how far confidence really works for men. I was thinking of Captain Sensible. He always gets naked at gigs and he has skinny body and crucially a tiny penis (blocked out in this pic, but if you Google 'Captain Sensible naked' you see how tiny it really is):



To me, it's a great example of not giving a crap. He's had kids and stuff.

It's like, Jim Morrison was alternately skinny and fat and he still got it out on stage. And then there's Iggy Pop. What makes Captain even more audacious is that unlike them, he has a tiny manhood - but doesn't care. If Captain Sensible doesn't give a s**t then neither should you!

This is where I disagree, those fantasy pics (unnatural buffs) aren't that harmless.







Fine, makes sense.





As a side note, for you and for the others, my intention behinds this thread doesn't change reality: that many of you find beauty in unnatural bodies; and many of you are misled thinking this is natural beauty.

So you can all assume day and night that I am just jealous, whiner or bitter regarding buff guys. Even if that's true, it doesn't make what I am saying in the main post less true.

Btw, Stallone is not liked by women because his face isn't handsome, nor his movies appeal to women much.
But physique-wise, he's not less buff that those in the pics being posted here.

Nope you dont, because only one page ago you wrote that





So whats your intention? Being partner to a girl, or hanging on their wall as a calendar pic? If you want to on a prominent calendar pic, you will have to match with computer-painted superbodies. If your intention is about metting and having an relationship, then start to live in the real world, because its not the calendarpicture guys that average, normal woman have relationships with, but average normal guys. Just as nearly every average, normal men has some "Playboys" or "FHM" at home, but have relationships with average, normal girls.

So a boy, living in the real world, knows that he doesnt need to match up with computer-phantasy guys, as long as doesnt want to be one himself. He need to match up with average, normal, ordinary people for meeting girls and having relationships. Or do you know any people, that have relationships with Mangagirls or calendar boys? I dont, so I wouldnt know, why I should feel myself forced to match up with something not existing?

There is a great german comedian, that made fun out of that behaviour, that is normally more an issue for woman.
She: Do you think Claudia Schiffers beautiful?
He: *General Ackbar voice: Its a trap!* - Not in comparison to you.
She: Come on, be earnest.
He: Actually, I dont think she is ugly, but she is not the kind of style that I would prefer.
She: But if I would not exist, and you were not in an relationship, and she would offer you an relationship, would you agree?
He: So IF you wouldnt exist on the whole world, and I would not have another relationship, and rich topmodel Claudia Schiffer would offer me to be in an relationship with her, I think I would agree!
She: So you would cheat on me!
He: No I couldnt cheat on you. Because we said you wouldnt even exist, so I couldnt cheat on you, when agreeing into an relationship with Claudia Schiffer!
She: But you want to have an relationship with Claudia Schiffer!
He: You said its only theoretical and that ...
She: *Already calls her best friend - crying* Oh my god, you wont believe me. I just discovered that he cheats on me with Claudia Schiffer!
Friend: That awful pig! I always told you to break up with him!

I mean thats a gag. But how great is the chance, that you ever will be with a girl, that will meet George Clooney in reality? So why the hell do you think, that you are supposed to match with such guys? ^^

Edit: So you mean, women are not exclusively interested into a the amount of muscles a men has, but appreciate other qualities as a the personality of the displayed character as well? Who would have guessed that, after millions of women watching "Pirates of the Carribean" because of Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom.

As for the manga thing, I have heard of girls starving themselves to look more kawaii, or whatever. But when men drool over hot girls in cosplay, it's usually girls with normal bodies in character costume. The fact that they are curvier than a drawing is actually a good thing. Still get girls trying for the whole Japanese schoolgirl look, and not to attract men, usually. It's usually because they are extremely obsessed with anime.

Ok, I do watch anime but I am not too much into the 'anime community' - I simply don't know much about them (the community). The anime probably has the same effect as barbie dolls.


Yup, that's true.

And those girls aren't usually models even , they are usually fellow fans.





This point was addressed in previous pages, Schneekugel.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt235231. ... torder=asc

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I still have to state my prior opinion... when people are drawn to unhealthy extremes to achieve a certain appearance, my guess is there is there are some serious underlying issues driving that person. What I might find attractive (and there's obviously a variety), and what the five or so pics I've posted as attractive is not going to bring down the male side of the species as we know it. What happened to personal responsibility, anyway?!? Don't like what you see on the tv/internet? You have every right to turn it off, but not to censor my choices(within reason). Putting that much weight on the expression of my personal taste is as silly as thinking that posting my nipples would be a new frontier of female liberation.

As long you are not complaining about guys who like extreme thin or fake physical attributes in women then yea, keep liking those men.




But the media and the millions of women's opinions and 'personal taste' like you have already caused the chemical use to become a trend, why else you think the trend is on the increase? it is harming the male side of the species in one way and another.


It's ok, MsMajor, it's ok if you admit that many of those guys you fancy are unhealthy and full of chemicals; truth hurts .

Actually Face_of_Bob, this looks pretty sexy to me right now.

Yes, this turns me on, lemme add milk to it.

























ps: real cow milk you pervs.

Then stand up to it. Not by ... "issuing" around, but simply by standing your ground. Media want me to use chemical pills to get size zero. - Eat my happy size 38. Media want me to use physical harming shoes. - Eat my Sneakers. Media want me to ruin my skin and eyes with chemical substances? - Eat my pigment spots. Media want me to waste my time with hairstyling and chemical stuff for hair. Eat my pony and some olive oil. Media want me to use metal-based chemicals to ruin my skin and acid my sweat pores. - Smell my fresh arm-sweat. ^^

I could "issue" about that all day, and yop I am definitely often f****d up by people having that kind of dumb expectations on me, but I wont change it by crying. Simply show that these expectations can be ignored, and should be ignored, by living a happy life without all that s**t.