Very attractive girl says...All I had to do was wait...

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Two of which also bemoan getting whistled at, and always having guys pretend to be their friend, only to make a move later on.

You mean people here who lie?

If their looks are sub par, they'll have to do more pursuing. But don't tell me an attractive single mother doesn't have pursuers. They don't carry a sign that says, "I have kids." Even if they do, it doesn't totally deter someone who's drawn to them.

Well, people say their lives are one thing, then say they're another. "It's just as hard for us women. We never get chased. But we do get chased, and it's offensive. But we have to do the pursuing. But guys just want sex. But men just aren't interested in us."

Eh, same 'ol predictable garbage. Buncha broken records.

I'm glad you posted this. This brings up a good point; you can't know what it's like to be in someone else's shoes. You'd think more people here would come to this realization, having experienced a population of NTs who have no concept of what the hell it is to be on the spectrum, and there fore they themselves shouldn't make the same mistake. But no, I'm not giving women the benefit of the doubt when they keep insisting it's just as difficult for them as men. The only thing making it more difficult is the numerous stipulations they seem to have.

HAHA! No, we carry KIDS. literally on the hip, snivelling, simpering, runny nosed, miracles from heaven. The 2% of men who don't assume we are married still won't perceive us as sexual beings, not when we're toting tots. Even if they did, they won't approach us when our kids are with us, which is just about ALL the time, until they're in school. And then we meet guys, where, running errands at 9am?

Regarding CaptainTrips222's bolded part:

I don't have "pursuers". There are people who find me attractive (and let me know it), but that's not exactly "pursuit". I have to do the pursuing, most of the time. I could just live in a conservative place, though, where people are more reserved (Northeast US).

Of course, "attractive" is entirely relative, too.

here, corrected.

in nature, females of most species are physically bigger and stronger than males.
they indicate their sexual availability by a pheremonal discharge which the males are drawn mindlessly toward.
they can choose who gets to make love with them because they are strong enough to resist eager but inferior suitors.

in humans, females are are extremely attractive to males, and so males fight hard to win the brawn contest.
they have developed into "beefcakes" with "attitude" in order to conquer their competition and win the "sweet and soft batting eyed girl".

many girls will choose a man like that, but not all girls will i think.
i am not answering any post in this thread, i am just saying how i see what i think at this instant about this topic.

110% true. My ex-wife used to have men hit on her all the time while she was waiting to pick our kids up from school (after our divorce). They often tried to arrange "play dates" for the children She even had men hit on her at our son's Cub Scout meetings while I was present!

goodness. what complicated lives people lead when they are bound to the world in which they belong.
when you belong nowhere, there are no obligations.
yes i know what i said is feeble and lacks emotional impact, but i said what i said because it is what i think.

Your ex-wife is still very young. The above has *not* been my experience (though, to be fair, I can't remember the last time I met someone who's single and age-appropriate for me). Again, "attractive" is relative. Married men hitting on me would be extraordinarily short-sighted on their part since I know their wives and children, too. They can let you know they think you're attractive, in a respectful and boundary-respecting way, but that's not pursuit (thank goodness).

Acne? Seriously? How many guys are going to be repelled by acne?

(maybe all the desirable guys are repelled by such trivia and a girl with acne is only getting (unwanted) attention from guys they don't want?)

However, attractive people also have to put up with others assuming the attractive person hasn't been through much in their life so that person decides to be mean to that person just to "teach them a lesson"! Even though it's the complete opposite.

One person's story is just one person's story.

There are women who never grow up past high school who gang up on prettier women and someone like you would perceive it as "justice" being served when really you're condoning bullying and assuming a pretty person must not have had a lesson smashed into their face with a shovel by real life experience.

All different types of people are bullied. It can be because you are too thin, you don't fit in, the color of your skin, you're too quiet, you're overweight, you're gay, you have a mental difference, you are gifted, you are really smart, you are talented, you're pretty.

I hope you haven't decided you can judge people instantly and have decided to dish out this "lesson smashing" to someone who is pretty without knowing the person because you feel life just hasn't taught them a lesson. That is really ignorant. A bully is a bully and someone being pretty is no justification. Serial killers think that way.

Teenage girls and even grown women who are considered thin and pretty are bullied too. Sometimes to the point of suicide. BUT, because they are pretty, they deserve it right? If you believe that then I hope the next pretty woman you "teach a lesson" to kicks you in the balls and teaches you a lesson.

In today's school world there is alot of hate. It used to be okay to fight back but now it's turned into if you fight back you are weak for letting anger control you and YOU could get arrested. You also get no back up from teachers or the principal. This leaves kids feeling hopeless.

The majority of the kids in the videos were targeted for being:

-pretty
-intelligent
-talented
-different

If you have a combination of at least two you attract haters like a magnet.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecr-18fPtDQ[/youtube]


I have no idea if this girl is still alive.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjWeCRlRBis[/youtube]


Anyone who gives reasons for a certain group to be bullied over how they dress, look, being different, being intelligent needs to re-evaluate their stances and why they themselves are haters. Bullying is bullying period. When groups of people or just one person hates you to the point of hurting you everyday even though you are not hurting that person, there is no justification.

One thing I've noticed about bullies though. Anytime a group of people single out another group who is being bullied, the bullies go target another type of person.

This would be fixed if people would understand that anyone could be bullied for any reason not just for reasons Oprah suggests.

Hence why I prefaced it as one person's story . . .

^ is the second vid a real case or just an ad campaign against bullying?