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11 Jul 2012, 2:12 am

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i am not so shallow that i would care about things like that. it was his body, not mine.


Riiiiiight. This discussion is pointless.



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11 Jul 2012, 2:29 am

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i am not so shallow that i would care about things like that. it was his body, not mine.


Riiiiiight. This discussion is pointless.

ok, then why are you still responding?


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11 Jul 2012, 2:56 am

Well from my very limited and probably completely inaccurate understanding, men seem to want to the following:

They want a woman who loves them, not just loves them but loves them for who they are, not the "idea" of him she has in her mind or who they can be to her (e.g. a provider or a high social status, etc).

Someone who understands them so they do not have to explain things and who understands men in general - that she will let them be a man (in whatever way that means to him) without emasculating him or expecting him to conform to a ridiculous sterotype. Someone who accepts them completely and trusts, respects, admires and appreciates them, as well we loving them. Someone who brings out the best in them.

Someone who won't try to change them but will always support them if they want to better themselves. A woman who, even if she doesn't approve of his hobbies, is supportive of them anyway because she understands how much they mean to him - and doesn't begrudge him the time he spends on them (or with friends), within reason.

Someone who follows the golden rule - never nag. Someone who is open and giving and genuinely cares for them and those who are important to him. A girl who doesn't try to solve his problems for him - because she trusts that he can do it himself but will always help out if asked to. Also preferably non controlling and not high maintance.

What did I miss? Oh yeah, food, sex and laughs at his jokes, but that's about all I know. :lol:


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11 Jul 2012, 3:20 am

You get down to personal values on this one.

Any partner of mine, should I ever get so lucky, can be sure that barring physical injury, old age, or some other kind of unexpected reason, I will always be slim and athletic. I will also always keep myself in presentable shape in terms of smell and appearance, such as in the way of clothes, showering, dental care, etc.

I would fully expect any girl (or guy!) of mine to do the exact same, barring similar reasons to be unable to do so. Is this unreasonable of me?


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11 Jul 2012, 3:23 am

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You get down to personal values on this one.

Any partner of mine, should I ever get so lucky, can be sure that barring physical injury, old age, or some other kind of unexpected reason, I will always be slim and athletic. I will also always keep myself in presentable shape in terms of smell and appearance, such as in the way of clothes, showering, dental care, etc.

I would fully expect any girl (or guy!) of mine to do the exact same, barring similar reasons to be unable to do so. Is this unreasonable of me?

that depends. what is your recourse if they do not comply?


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11 Jul 2012, 3:27 am

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I have absolutely no clue. Period.



naaa...... men dont like periods



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11 Jul 2012, 3:40 am

hyperlexian wrote:
Shau wrote:
You get down to personal values on this one.

Any partner of mine, should I ever get so lucky, can be sure that barring physical injury, old age, or some other kind of unexpected reason, I will always be slim and athletic. I will also always keep myself in presentable shape in terms of smell and appearance, such as in the way of clothes, showering, dental care, etc.

I would fully expect any girl (or guy!) of mine to do the exact same, barring similar reasons to be unable to do so. Is this unreasonable of me?

that depends. what is your recourse if they do not comply?


If they don't comply, then I don't go out with them!

If we're already going out, then I don't really know. I'd have to be in the situation to be sure, I guess it would come down to how much I liked them. I'm unlikely to like a person not willing to make sacrifices for me, though, when I'm willing to do so in turn.

[edit] S/he'd also have to contend with the fact that if they get too fat, I'm likely to lose physical attraction toward them. If I could I'd turn that part of my brain off, I would, because it's probably holding me back from potential mates.


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11 Jul 2012, 3:43 am

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I have absolutely no clue. Period.



naaa...... men dont like periods

:lmao:



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11 Jul 2012, 3:47 am

Ideally someone born in Chinese dog, pig or goat years. Definitely not a rooster, horse or rat, uuugghh



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11 Jul 2012, 4:17 am

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I have absolutely no clue. Period.



naaa...... men dont like periods


Instant Rimshot!



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11 Jul 2012, 6:00 am

Surfman wrote:
BrenJB wrote:
I have absolutely no clue. Period.



naaa...... men dont like periods


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11 Jul 2012, 6:03 am

Shau wrote:
I'm still pretty convinced this would be better as a "what people want" thread.


Pretty much.

Plus it varies for both gender based on their age, or where they are in life.



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11 Jul 2012, 6:15 am

Something that has not been brought up is the idea of emotional support. Men do need emotional support, but it is usually a specific type of emotional support. Basically, men are like cats. If you follow a cat around trying to pet it, it will get stressed out. What you need to do is just sit on a couch and not bother it, and if it wants to it will jump up onto your lap. Men want someone they can open up to, but they don't want to be artificially "opened" like a tin can.



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11 Jul 2012, 6:16 am

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Well if we make a vague observation, I think most people including men and women want some level of wealth, health and love or they want to feel fulfilment from those things. Earning money and being appreciated for doing something creative or finding love and acceptance from someone so they feel a sense of validation.

I think however that true validation, acceptance and love comes from within, you must first understand and love yourself before you can love another.


I agree and I think RuPaul says it best

If you can't love yourself, how in the hell are you gonna love somebody else
can she get an amen


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11 Jul 2012, 8:04 am

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Something that has not been brought up is the idea of emotional support. Men do need emotional support, but it is usually a specific type of emotional support. Basically, men are like cats. If you follow a cat around trying to pet it, it will get stressed out. What you need to do is just sit on a couch and not bother it, and if it wants to it will jump up onto your lap. Men want someone they can open up to, but they don't want to be artificially "opened" like a tin can.


I thought that part was common sense. :?


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11 Jul 2012, 8:47 am

Kjas wrote:
Declension wrote:
Something that has not been brought up is the idea of emotional support. Men do need emotional support, but it is usually a specific type of emotional support. Basically, men are like cats. If you follow a cat around trying to pet it, it will get stressed out. What you need to do is just sit on a couch and not bother it, and if it wants to it will jump up onto your lap. Men want someone they can open up to, but they don't want to be artificially "opened" like a tin can.


I thought that part was common sense. :?


I thought so too, but apparently women are often advised that "men find it difficult to talk about their feelings, so you need to encourage them to talk about their feelings". A better piece of advice would be: "men find it difficult to talk about their feelings, so when they decide to talk to you about their feelings you should take them seriously".