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01 Jan 2013, 2:13 am

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Yeah, I sure hope he doesn't have a sister he's beating up, or beating up his own mother. From what I've seen with one of my cousins, it seems steroids can trigger that to happen. :?


http://www.steroid.com/steroids_side_effects.php

Try to become more educated and informed before making ridiculous generalizations or stereotypical comments.



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01 Jan 2013, 2:21 am

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Have Good New year Wolfy, Am off to Edinburgh myself.

But before I a go.

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Most social problems occur because of AS, an attractive AS person can get casual sex and one night stands but maintaining and developing relationships is a social problem.


Agreed completely. Casual sex is friggin easy to get, last month there I had three Female friends with benefits, Till as I do with all friends, Benefits or not. Lost interest and stopped talking to them.

I cannot for the life of me Maintain a relationship, But I can more than easily start one.
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Oh as for the Roid user comment. I view them as any other person but I know quite a few guys who've taken them for years and are huge, and insult weightlifters who don't use them "For being p****'s" Never mind the fact they've never done a free weight squat in their life in fear for their knee's.


I'm in the same boat so I know what you are talking about, I can get casual sex with friends with benefits or women on the rebound but forming relationships just don't seem to be something that come easy but like Boo said, something is better than nothing so it's good to look at the positives. Relationships take a lot to maintain though and some people can't seem to get any action on this site so we can look at the positive aspects as well.

People will always be arrogant against things they don't understand including steroids, that's just how some people are.

Happy new year as well, mate.



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01 Jan 2013, 2:27 am

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So notes I have taken from this rant.

- Not every hot girl is with someone that has 22 inch biceps like Arnold Schwarzenegger or as rich as Donald Trump.
- A good linguistics doctor or expert could teach you what a PUA can at a far cheaper price and probably better.
- Most social problems occur because of AS, an attractive AS person can get casual sex and one night stands but maintaining and developing relationships is a social problem.
well most people on this board cant get casual sex so either you are wrong that an attractive aspie can get that, or we are all ugly.


By attractive, an attractive woman can get casual sex easily but if you are a guy, sometimes it is about seizing the moment and opportunity or it's about being developed enough to form sexual relationships.

Like I said before, it's also a numbers game, the more women you advertise yourself towards, the more chance you got towards getting some action as long as you stay in your standards.



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01 Jan 2013, 2:31 am

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You're taking notes of your own rant? :lol:

:lmao: I nearly fell off my chair.



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01 Jan 2013, 2:57 am

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Oh, how cute, the White Knight is now threatening me with violence over the Internet. :lol: :lol: :lol:


...which is WHY I made the "roid rage" comment. ;)

If one can't have a differing opinion without going HULK SMAAAAASH, one may want to reconsider the crazy stuff they're injecting into their body. ;)


Look Max, I'm not prejudice and I haven't got anything against you. If you want to wear a cowboy hat and hotpants in your spare time, that's up to you mate so I'm not making sweeping generalizations against people. You even talked against it yourself a while back but it seems like you just believe anything the media tell you? Imagine if everybody stereotyped and believed every myth towards people on the spectrum?



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01 Jan 2013, 3:09 am

Wolfheart wrote:
Look Max, I'm not prejudice and I haven't got anything against you. If you want to wear a cowboy hat and hotpants in your spare time, that's up to you mate so I'm not making sweeping generalizations against people. You even talked against it yourself a while back but it seems like you just believe anything the media tell you? Imagine if everybody stereotyped and believed every myth towards people on the spectrum?


Why believe what the media tells you when you can believe what the scientific community tells you?

Science wrote:
Adverse effects of anabolic steroids in athletes: A constant threat

Abstract

Anabolic-androgenic steroids (AAS) are used as ergogenic aids by athletes and non-athletes to enhance performance by augmenting muscular development and strength. AAS administration is often associated with various adverse effects that are generally dose related. High and multi-doses of AAS used for athletic enhancement can lead to serious and irreversible organ damage. Among the most common adverse effects of AAS are some degree of reduced fertility and gynecomastia in males and masculinization in women and children. Other adverse effects include hypertension and atherosclerosis, blood clotting, jaundice, hepatic neoplasms and carcinoma, tendon damage, psychiatric and behavioral disorders. More specifically, this article reviews the reproductive, hepatic, cardiovascular, hematological, cerebrovascular, musculoskeletal, endocrine, renal, immunologic and psychologic effects. Drug-prevention counseling to athletes is highlighted and the use of anabolic steroids is must be avoided, emphasizing that sports goals may be met within the framework of honest competition, free of doping substances.


Here's a LINK to more articles from the primary literature on this topic.

Now, onto the actual topic, here's a LINK to a PUA article showing that it's not all deception, negs, and misogyny. The article is focused on being positive and simply being the man that women want you to be. I've said it once, I'll say it a million times: Pick-Up Artist techniques are like a weapon, they can be used to do good things to women, they can be used to do bad things to them.

.......and Wolfie Boy, do learn how to combine posts into one, will you? A triple post? Really?



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01 Jan 2013, 3:46 am

Honestly, attacking PUA is like attacking feminism. There are all sorts of PUA schools (for lack of a better term) out there with each school conflicting with another that you may as well attack the PUA schools that say basically the same thing that Wolfheart here preaches.

Not every PUA school is about peacocking and sh*t like that.

And as for you, OP, are you saying that all this aggression and agitation has nothing at all to do with steroids? If so, that's even worse. :lol: :lol: :lol:



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01 Jan 2013, 6:20 am

Simple fact, pua is for losers, the only reason it exists is to make money from schmucks, the game is a non existential thing, it is not moving it is not fluid, the game is rather a simple fact. most men and most women are straight, therefore need to get the opposite sex to fornicate with them, it does not move in trends it does not swirlf, every female/male is an individual with different likes wants and needs, the only thing you can do is to match their categories for this. reading a book will not make u a pua.



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01 Jan 2013, 8:30 am

WARNING to all posters in this thread.

Keep the conversation civil. If I see any more crap going off between members there WILL be suspension(s).


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01 Jan 2013, 8:56 am

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This thread is yet one more example of false modesty being displayed.


And you are basing that on what exactly?


Gee, I dunno....maybe every narcissistic, self appreciating, disingenuous thread and post you've made over the last few months? I can't take this thread seriously with the imagery and self appreciation you still use. You have many a time borrowed from PUA's, supported them and even aimed to be like one and boasted of how you would triumph as one in a forum where you would have likely been trolled to the point of no return (the bodybuilder forum where the REAL alphas go).

Sorry, Wolf, I'm glad a new page has turned for you but you really need a new sales pitch and the false modesty is still strong here.



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01 Jan 2013, 9:23 am

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Wolfheart wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
This thread is yet one more example of false modesty being displayed.


And you are basing that on what exactly?


Gee, I dunno....maybe every narcissistic, self appreciating, disingenuous thread and post you've made over the last few months? I can't take this thread seriously with the imagery and self appreciation you still use. You have many a time borrowed from PUA's, supported them and even aimed to be like one and boasted of how you would triumph as one in a forum where you would have likely been trolled to the point of no return (the bodybuilder forum where the REAL alphas go).

Sorry, Wolf, I'm glad a new page has turned for you but you really need a new sales pitch and the false modesty is still strong here.


I'm proud of my achievements and I have said before modesty is never a word that will apply to me so there's no false modesty. I haven't read a PUA book and I'll stand by it, some of the advice can be useful and some of it isn't useful which can involve manipulating or exploiting people. What relevance would it have for me to post it on another forum? I relate to people on the spectrum because I have faced and overcome the same problems that many guys have here.

Sales pitch? I'm not selling anything, I'll be reaping the rewards of what I have practised. Nothing in my method has involved anything immoral, I have never taken advantage of a drunk girl or a girl that is susceptible to being taken advantage of.



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01 Jan 2013, 9:32 am

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WARNING to all posters in this thread.

Keep the conversation civil. If I see any more crap going off between members there WILL be suspension(s).



Listen to the Kung Fu monk there, guys...

Otherwise...



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01 Jan 2013, 9:35 am

If you think I'm arrogant, so be it but since doing the whole OkCupid advice following the advice of Boo, I have had more sex, action and dates in six months than I have had in six years.

You can follow whatever principles you want but you'll be alone and bitter if you choose to play the high and mighty act on this one.



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01 Jan 2013, 9:37 am

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Now, now... let's not assume the worst. ;)
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01 Jan 2013, 10:46 am

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Simple fact, pua is for losers, the only reason it exists is to make money from schmucks, the game is a non existential thing, it is not moving it is not fluid, the game is rather a simple fact. most men and most women are straight, therefore need to get the opposite sex to fornicate with them, it does not move in trends it does not swirlf, every female/male is an individual with different likes wants and needs, the only thing you can do is to match their categories for this. reading a book will not make u a pua.

however having said that, if it increases your confidence then thats brilliant isn't it?



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01 Jan 2013, 11:05 am

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If you think I'm arrogant, so be it but since doing the whole OkCupid advice following the advice of Boo, I have had more sex, action and dates in six months than I have had in six years.

You can follow whatever principles you want but you'll be alone and bitter if you choose to play the high and mighty act on this one.


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