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12 Oct 2013, 7:10 pm

Aaendi wrote:

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Personally, not only am I tired of the whining and self-pity, but when the "losers" are told where they are wrong and what they can do to improve their chances, they make even more whiny excuses and claim that none of the advice will ever work with them because all of the blame is in the women, the men they are attracted to, society in general, and never themselves!

It's because people tend to think that their advice is more helpful then it really is.

More likely it's because the whiners and complainers are so desperate for attention that they will deny an obvious truth just to see the replies.

...and you somehow know everything about a person who you've never actually seen in person? :roll:

No, I just know a contentious post from a whining attention-seeker when I see one.

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12 Oct 2013, 7:58 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:

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Let's say there is a guy named Tom.

If Tom is not a Misogynist, then he must be a "Nice Guy", but if Tom is a "Nice Guy," then he must be a misogynist. Therefore, if Tom is not a misogynist, then he must be a misogynist, because "Nice Guys" are not "Nice Guys."

None of this makes any sense. A misogynist is "a person who hates, dislikes, mistrusts, or mistreats women. " So if he is a nice guy then he won't mistreat women.

That was the point I was making. All this fuss about nice guys does not make any sense at all. There are blogs upon blogs of women whining nonstop about how nice guys are such horrible misogynistic pigs, when their logic is so obviously flawed.

They're talking about self-proclaimed "Nice Guys", not guys who actually are nice. I believe other people have already made this point.

It still doesn't make much sense for so many people to whine about such a vanishingly small group of people. How many men do you know who deliberately go overboard with being nice, just to trick a girl into having sex with them?

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12 Oct 2013, 9:36 pm

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don't players do that. players always pretend to be nice to women,to get sex.
how come players and Alpha male are not consider ''nice guys''
is it because their more successful with women.

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12 Oct 2013, 9:41 pm

Codyrules37 wrote:

I think the best time to have sex with someone is when you're married.

The sex can't be that good if the divorce rate is 53% in the United States.

But I do agree, if you find someone that you care about it is much better.

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12 Oct 2013, 10:19 pm

billiscool wrote:

Aaendi wrote:

don't players do that. players always pretend to be nice to women,to get sex.
how come players and Alpha male are not consider ''nice guys''
is it because their more successful with women.

My observation is a lot of guys successful with women actually fake being nice just to get what they want. However, the difference is that they don't go overboard in terms of niceness (being too nice can be quite creepy and a sign of being submissive/suckingup/weak/passive, etc) and they still show dominant traits that make the girl see the niceness as something genuine (even if it's not).

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12 Oct 2013, 11:10 pm

MCalavera wrote:

so,that's what's I been saying:
the ''fake nice''alpha player men are just better looking
have better social skills,more attractive traits than
nice guys(tm)

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12 Oct 2013, 11:23 pm

I think nice guys tm,should include
all men who fake niceness to get sex
with women,even the one's who are successful
in getting sex.

I think it's a double standard
man A:fake niceness to get sex,
but fails, is called a ''nice guy''
''loser'' ''wimp''
man B:fake niceness to get sex,
but succeed, is called a ''alpha''
''stud'' ''real man''

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13 Oct 2013, 3:12 am

Aaendi wrote:

Who_Am_I wrote:

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Adamantus wrote:

Aaendi wrote:

None of this makes any sense. A misogynist is "a person who hates, dislikes, mistrusts, or mistreats women. " So if he is a nice guy then he won't mistreat women.

They're talking about self-proclaimed "Nice Guys", not guys who actually are nice. I believe other people have already made this point.

Go and Google "nice guys finish last" or "girls date jerks" or anything like that and you will find scores of these self-styled Nice Guys.

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13 Oct 2013, 3:37 am

Hell, there have been "Nice Guys" who have gone and shot up gyms etc because they couldn't get a woman.

Not very nice.

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13 Oct 2013, 7:20 am

lost561 wrote:

Codyrules37 wrote:

I think the best time to have sex with someone is when you're married.

The sex can't be that good if the divorce rate is 53% in the United States.

But I do agree, if you find someone that you care about it is much better.

Oh dear. FYI, the sex could be most incredible thing for both partners and they will still divorce. Marriage and relationships are about other things in addition to sex.

Also, sex is different for men and for women in general and then for each man and woman in general.

The divorce rate tells us that the stigma associated with the divorce has been reduced in the society, it actually doesn;t reflect what is going on in the relationships because even in the "old times" people had horrible time in the relationships but would never consider divorce due to their religious beliefs and society pressure.

Statistics are evil.

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13 Oct 2013, 7:23 am

^True.

Love and sex are not the same thing.

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13 Oct 2013, 11:38 am

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Brill post.

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13 Oct 2013, 9:46 pm

MCalavera wrote:

billiscool wrote:

Aaendi wrote:

don't players do that. players always pretend to be nice to women,to get sex.
how come players and Alpha male are not consider ''nice guys''
is it because their more successful with women.

The reason those guys don't go overboard is because they know when to move on. That's hard for Aspies to know when and how to do. Like with our monologues and special interests. Knowing when to move on depends on body languages and cues...here we go. So we are "creepy" because of it. And some of us get bitter as a result. And blame women for shooting them down over things they can't change, calling women "shallow" and "entitled". Then for some people, THAT becomes a special interest.

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13 Oct 2013, 10:14 pm

The thing we have to remember to is, we have to live with Aspergers. They have to live with being NT. They can't change their mental make up anymore than we can.

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13 Oct 2013, 10:46 pm

Nice Guys™ don't exist......... here. I've never seen one. Never had one approach me or be interested in me. Guess I'm lucky?

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13 Oct 2013, 11:05 pm

Shebakoby wrote:

Nice Guys™ don't exist......... here. I've never seen one. Never had one approach me or be interested in me. Guess I'm lucky?

I knew one or two. I was the girl they whinged to when the "hot" girls wouldn't date them. Funnily enough, while saying all women where witches for not dating them, they never actually asked me out.

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