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Veresae
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12 Apr 2007, 7:06 pm

Can you decode and recommend gothic fashion? I'm not all that interested in attracting conventional blue-jean-wearing girls, frankly....



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12 Apr 2007, 7:57 pm

as hinted at in your thread, i can provide some information on gothic fashion over here, old europe (being a goth myself). just a bit of a starter would be nice, though, as the scene is as diverse as you can imagine - a completely heterogenous bunch of more or less related currents on different levels. fashion for a "default" goth would be something very different from fashion for a goth fashion freak or just someone who is much deeper in one specific branch of goth subculture.



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13 Apr 2007, 1:31 pm

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Can you decode and recommend gothic fashion? I'm not all that interested in attracting conventional blue-jean-wearing girls, frankly....


i had a gothic phase. actually as well as being into the music and scene, my favoured drinking establishment had a 'gothic' dress code: (no white, no beige, no trainers or something like that). this was fine until i wanted to get any indie mates to join me for a swift pint. but it was a great bar.

i agree with gekitsu that the scene is very diverse.

there are a lot of gothic looks that i like but could never wear because of the textures. one mans lush panne velvet shirt is anothers skin crawling acrylic nightmare. as with any clothes, if you want it to be made well, you have to pay more.

perhaps if you start with a really good pair of boots for example new rocks, proper cowboy boots or whatever takes your fancy, then black jeans and tee are fine. then maybe practice with some eye liner? your look will find you as you start to express yourself. btw, i don't think that you can start wearing a whole off the peg look and expect to be comfortable straight away but hey, we're all different.



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13 Apr 2007, 3:31 pm

sepia, that is so funny. :)
veresae also opened a thread on gothic fashion (a different aspect, though, but the thread took its twists) in the tv/entertainment/fashion subforum and i recommended almost exactly the same thing: start basic.



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15 Apr 2007, 3:48 pm

I have to make a comment on the shoes though..
Where i live (Belgium, Europe), it's almost standard that everyone (i'm speaking of ages 13 to 25, even 30) wears sneakers.
On dates, parties, home, school, ...
Some things are a lot different over the oceans :p



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17 Apr 2007, 2:08 am

Omg I'm such a truant...lmao...haven't been on WP in weeks. Stupid irl getting in the way there :?

Amazing how things can indeed be very different across the seas...like here we have very different kinds of casual shoes, many similar to running shoes, others like fashionable sandshoes, etc. They go with certain kinds of clothes of course. Interesting to note the completely different use of items with each other across the world. Lol...so much potential for misinterpretation in accordance to that...

Gothic fashion. That's definitely way out of my depth for one...my sister was into that but it was one of her many 'phases'. I could never keep up with her and her phases; her wardrobe is practically exploding with stuff she's gone through.

Rules always bend depending on who you're with. Like, when I go to club meets (eg: tomorrow night, actually) it's usually very casual. I'll be in jeans and black sneaker-like shoes (Iunno what they are, a ripoff of Vans I think), and most likely a REXnet hoodie because this is the one place you SHOULD wear any club or Subaru gear :lol: Work is the opposite...bosso has decided that if I don't dress up in the morning she gets to metaphorically frypan me in the face. Urgh...



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17 Apr 2007, 2:16 am

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Omg I'm such a truant...lmao...haven't been on WP in weeks. Stupid irl getting in the way there :?

Amazing how things can indeed be very different across the seas...like here we have very different kinds of casual shoes, many similar to running shoes, others like fashionable sandshoes, etc. They go with certain kinds of clothes of course. Interesting to note the completely different use of items with each other across the world. Lol...so much potential for misinterpretation in accordance to that...

Gothic fashion. That's definitely way out of my depth for one...my sister was into that but it was one of her many 'phases'. I could never keep up with her and her phases; her wardrobe is practically exploding with stuff she's gone through.

Rules always bend depending on who you're with. Like, when I go to club meets (eg: tomorrow night, actually) it's usually very casual. I'll be in jeans and black sneaker-like shoes (Iunno what they are, a ripoff of Vans I think), and most likely a REXnet hoodie because this is the one place you SHOULD wear any club or Subaru gear :lol: Work is the opposite...bosso has decided that if I don't dress up in the morning she gets to metaphorically frypan me in the face. Urgh...


I wear white Nike running shoes to every occasion. Wearing them to a wedding next week :D.


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17 Apr 2007, 2:24 am

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Rules always bend depending on who you're with. ...


Yeah. Makes breaking them trickier.



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17 Apr 2007, 1:33 pm

i think thats all fine, mindoforderedchaos. i dont think you could go wrong with these clothes in any everyday situation.

as for rules: i prefer the bruce lee version of the old "know the rules..." saying: "follow the rules without being bound by them" - actually, both say the same, but lees version is not so easy to misinterpret as "see what everyone else does - and do the opposite just because".



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18 Apr 2007, 5:08 pm

Clothes have been a little easier for me because I'm very visual and into design. Still, I can't stop wearing my Dansko clogs (basically glorified clogs) everywhere I go, especially since I'm a teacher. I tend to wear the same things (jeans and an acceptable-looking, comfortable top) every day, so when I dressed up in my "real" clothes for parent-teacher conferences, my students couldn't believe it. For some reason, the girls always compliment my non-clog shoes, no matter how old they are (2nd grade or 8th), or which school they're at. I find that bizarre because I never think about other women's shoes unless they're particularly strange.



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19 Apr 2007, 5:06 pm

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I certainly find that dressing makes me feel better. I get a lot of nice smiles as well. But, it's not enough. You still have to know how not to drive the little ones away when they approach you.


Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your point of view), I didn't even get that when I bothered going out. A well-placed scowl or unintentional verbal slip-up generally put paid to that...


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22 Apr 2007, 6:45 am

nice thread. i probebly dress rather strange at times, but when i go out or something like that i know how to dress fairly well.

my probelme is more what to do when the gal comes over and i`m suppose to say something :)



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28 Apr 2007, 4:37 pm

The original post was fantastic, but I'd like to add my two cents, which is that I think obsessing over fashion is incredibly juvenile and immature. I *purposefully* dress so that my intentions are clear: I don't give a flying **** about how others dress, and in doing so, I am actually superior to and cooler than those who do care. Because you see, to be cool is not to care what others think of you. I wear what I want, which is 99% old t-shirts, lol. I wear my Led Zeppelin shirt three times a week, and I really don't give a hoot if someone has a problem with it. It simply weeds out the idiots who are so absorbed in appearance and trying to fit in that they can't open their eyes and see the reality that spending thousands of dollars on clothes and spending hours a day smearing fake, nasty crap all over your face to cover up the natural appearance of your body when there are millions of people starving to death every day is quite simply a FOOLISH WASTE OF TIME. Luckily as a male the standards to which I am held aren't that high anyway, especially in my homeland of Alabama, but the point is I have much better things to do than to spend money and time on trying to diversify and perfect my wardrobe and appearance when I can be a perfectly handsome and attactive person without it.

P.S. hygene, for me, is another matter - smelling bad and carrying around two ounces of ear wax with you everywhere you go isn't too attractive, I do draw the line there



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30 Apr 2007, 11:51 am

Well..as an AS/ADDer with a boyfriend who is ADD we have a sort of cave dweller sense of fashion and hygene that is all about doing what is comfortable. We have a sense of fashion that is humorous and eccentric..but most improtantly it is comfortable.
Neither of us shaves..and we don't wear commercial deodorant because I am scared of aluminum
We do not bathe every day.
All of our clothes comes from thrift stores
I screen print on all my clothes..I do lots of funnt alterations..I find there is art in clothing...but for me it has little to do with fashion...or what happens to be fashionable...I have a whole lot of clothes...and the main reason i have so much clothes is because I tend to collect certain things...even if i don't always wear them...My boyfriend does too..he collects real Hawaiian shirts and mountain shirts....I am too fat for most vintage clothes but I still sorta collect them as a hold back from the full-blown vintage clothing obsession I had in my youth..

I would rather hang out/ date people with similar habits to my own than change my ways for the sake of others.



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30 Apr 2007, 6:13 pm

poopylungstuffing wrote:
Well..as an AS/ADDer with a boyfriend who is ADD we have a sort of cave dweller sense of fashion and hygene that is all about doing what is comfortable. We have a sense of fashion that is humorous and eccentric..but most improtantly it is comfortable.
Neither of us shaves..and we don't wear commercial deodorant because I am scared of aluminum
We do not bathe every day.
All of our clothes comes from thrift stores
I screen print on all my clothes..I do lots of funnt alterations..I find there is art in clothing...but for me it has little to do with fashion...or what happens to be fashionable...I have a whole lot of clothes...and the main reason i have so much clothes is because I tend to collect certain things...even if i don't always wear them...My boyfriend does too..he collects real Hawaiian shirts and mountain shirts....I am too fat for most vintage clothes but I still sorta collect them as a hold back from the full-blown vintage clothing obsession I had in my youth..

I would rather hang out/ date people with similar habits to my own than change my ways for the sake of others.


hey, yeah i am all for the vintage and thrift store look. it is cheap, original and ethically sound. i would recommend it to more aspies as the clothes have been worn in a bit and have a different 'feel' to them which i find particularly appealing, although i realise some people don't like the mustiness.

another aspie type trick is buying dancewear as it is extremely comfortable, durable and kind of classic. for instance, i like to wear flamenco shoes, ballet cardigans and 'ballet' - trainers you can totally flex and point your toes in them:))

i wish i could alter things a bit more like you. but i lack the steady hand. i can fix a hem or a button but lots of my clothes are a bit wonky after i've been at them. i also think thatyou get a better pick of the vintage stuff in the us.