Why are women so prude about guys touching them?

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Kay, am I the only one here who's remembering the thread where the OP is complaining about ugly girls liking him, girls that he'd rather kill himself than go out with? And yet now he thinks he's being discriminated against by girls who won't just give him whatever he wants because they don't feel attraction towards him.

This is hypocrisy to the extreme. If you don't want to be judged on your looks, than at very least don't judge others. Consistency, please. Or does the universe and the people therein only exist to serve you and your wants?

I don't like being touched by random people. Hell, there's people I know that I have to be more or less forced to touch at all because I don't trust or like them all that much. But I don't care if the person invading my personal space is what is considered to be attractive or is thought to be ugly - them touching me without concern for my will or thoughts in the matter shows that they have no respect for me from the get-go, and therefore are not good candidates for a relationship of any sorts.

Yeah, I noticed that, though I may not have pointed it out sufficiently with my 'paging Dr. Irony' post.

I had wondered about that. Was a bit unclear if that was the exact reference, but I'm glad someone else spotted that.

Maybe not sufficiently enough for ProtossX to notice... but then, I don't see how you can get through to a "mind" like his.

If you had stopped there, you would have been correct. Alas, you did not.



Yourself.



Why should they?

crackedpleasures - I completely agree with you.

Maybe imagine you were put in jail with a whole lot of hardened criminals and they started touching you.

I agree that women shouldn't get upset if it is accidental.

He would not mind the prison thing, after all being touched by random strangers is OK and one is morally obliged to fulfill another person's sex needs... At least according to the OP's way of thinking.

Also, accidental touches would sort of include arms or legs but nothing more. The more intimate touches like pinching one's breasts or buttocks can NEVER happen accidently.

Wow, I think we need to buy someone a helmet.

If people shouldn't judge others by their looks and you want sex, why not just go find a lonely overweight gal and have at it?

Yes, saying that "They're ugly and I don't want them touching my nethers" or anything of the sort will inevitably make you a dumbass. Please go win a Darwin Award.

ah, the twisted psyche of a budding rapist.

after you beat some fat chick to death, (because even lonely fat chicks have some standards, DNForrest, so i'm sure he'd meet with rejection there as well) after you beat or rape some chick for not putting out, i really hope someone mentions this forum to the prosecution, and all your idiot ramblings get entered into evidence.

i hope your cellmate is well endowed.

I train in martial arts, and I am regularly accidentally hit, stepped on, banged, bruised, and squashed in private places. Most of the time I don't even notice it, regardless of the gender doing it. If it is noticed, there's a quick 'sorry' by the offending party, and we keep on training.

If the same types of contact were to happen in regular public spaces, I would be seriously offended. Probably would take defensive action. Socially, we all have areas of 'personal space' into which invasion is neither welcome nor allowed by strangers, except in special circumstances like crowded elevators or subways, and even then deliberate groping is taboo. This is because we agree to show other people the basic dignity and respect due to a thinking human individual, and entering into the range in which it would be easy for you to harm the other person before they could defend themselves is not respectful.

If you want to grope and have sex with a 'hottie' whenever you want, get yourself a RealDoll - because, really, you don't want sex with another human being. You just want to be turned on when you masturbate.

The harsh reality is that RainSong is right. While nature/evolution is pretty much driving nice guys into a life of celibacy, people still have the right to choose their sex partners. While it sucks that those women are rejecting you, they not in any way obligated to fulfill your sexual needs. (Yeah, they can easily choose to do so, but they're still not obligated to.) Luckily, we have civilization, where we control what nature gave us. That's why prostitution exists in the first place. For as long as there were people, there were men who couldn't get any women. There were also women willing to capitalize on that. Bam!, the world's oldest profession is born. The power of money finally allowed sexually undesirable men to get what nature would never let them have: sexual contact with a woman.

So why all the science talk? I'm giving you advice. Women won't give you sex? Don't blame them; they're only doing what nature programmed them to do. Use the intelligence that millions of years of evolution gave you to fight nature! Man up, find an escort you like, and hire her for an hour. She'll give you all the sex you desire (she may have rules regarding what she allows and doesn't allow), and you'll walk out of her hotel room with a big goofy grin on your face. Once you get some sex from a woman, you won't be able to help but respect women more. Instead of seeing them as evil [w]itches who never give you sex, you'll see them as regular human beings with female parts.

Girls have no obligation to sleep with you just because you want to get laid. Wanting something is not the same thing as having a right to it. You wouldn't want to sleep with someone who you weren't attracted to, so why should they have to if they don't find you attractive?

I don't understand how blame comes into this, it's not like girls say "I want to hurt that guy, so I'm going to refuse to be attracted to him." If they did, I could understand how someone could be at fault, but that's not how attraction works.

And you wonder why girls you think are hawt want nothing to do with you?!

That has been a problem for me sometimes, as I am clumsy and sometimes I bump into things, and into people as well, it had happened to me that I accidently bump into a woman or I accidently touch some part and they get mad, I honestly have wondered if some don't care if it is accidental or not, or probably just don't believe me, which it upsets me sometimes, it happens with some men too, that they can get mad if they get touched by other men, but that attitude doesn't happen very often I think. Of course, some women are more open minded and don't have an issue about it, but some others are, which it worries me if I am around with people.

Yay for generalisations.

I do neither; I hate both.

I don't want to read about something that's personal (romance), or read something sexual that isn't in relation to my partner [and is also personal].

To the OP: if you are really so desperate to get laid and wanting a woman who is not going to get angry for being touched, I got one word for you: "bordello"

You cannot expect women in everyday situations to just please every man that feels horny. FFS, they are total strangers to you and you claim they are to BLAME for not giving sex to you. Their body is theirs and they set the rule, they are under no obligation to please any random stranger. I thought first this topic was some stupid joke but it seems more and more the OP is serious in his statements, which is really worrying if you ask me.

If you want to have a woman so badly, there are two options really:
- be a bit nicer to women, not seeing them as objects of lust who exist purely to please male desires, and then maybe you will actually see girls responding your amourous moves
- or if you are not prepared to change your attitude, then don't be surprised women don't respond your calls, and just pay for sex

You cannot expect a woman to welcome you with open arms, let alone allowing her body to be touched unrequested by a stranger, when you come with this attitude of "women should sleep with me because I want it, and if they don't it is their fault". You make sex sound like a moral duty rather than an act of love towards your lover. I would not want to sleep or be touched by any random person, and I am male, I can understand for a female it can feel even more intimidating. So change that attitude if you want a nice girl to like you, with statements such as the ones in this topic you are not going to make any progress.

Women in the end are no objects but humans. Just like us men. I want people to respect my personal space and treat me with respect. And women are a lot like that as well. I saw a really gorgeous girl yesterday who I would love to get to know better ; in the end I would not even consider just touching her or making a move on her, because that would be unrespectful and would harm her dignity and mine. The only way is to be nice to women, and then they may respond your calls. I can understand seeing a beautiful girl is tempting and stirs up some feelings (that is for me and most men as well) but in the end what sort of bastards would we be if we would just see them as objects to fulfill our own desires? I would not want to be treated that way and I live by the principle of not doing things to another person that I would not like myself. In the end, being nice to women and treat them with respect is the only way to get a girlfriend, it may be not the easiest way for shy Aspies like us, but it is the ONLY way.