Women, Men and steroids.

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^ stop with the drama lol - you dramatize everything out of nothing, I recall you said you love such calenders so I assumed you had several of such calenders before , I don't think the one you showed me is the only one you ever had, no? if yes then I am sorry. So i showed you a page of calenders of the very same type (and probably same brand, I don't read german), to show you what this type of calender often portray as perfect body.

And I have never lied; stop throwing accusations and trying to picture me as a liar based on a small asumption (that most probably correct) I made, just correct my assumption and say you only have one without scaling it to personal attack - end of story.

I never understood the "bigger is better" mindset for breasts, and I think smaller ones are much more attractive. Maybe people just never appreciate what they have.

Nope, you wanted to assume, that I have lots of such calendars, so you could blame me for it, so you simply invented the lie that I would have said such a thing somewhere. There is only one possibility you recalling me writing to have lots of calendars, and that would be you halluzinating. So please stop lying, this is an written forum. Play that manipulation games with people on real life, but to do that in an written forum, simply lets you look like a ....

But there is something you could have recalled, if you were really have been interested in recalling, and not about inventing stuff to lie about. You could have really recalled, me writing two times, that the one I have was a free present from one of our tool suppliers and a gag against radical feminits, accusing them because of them only providing female calendars to their customers. This is what you could have recalled.

First you have recalled something, now suddenly it si something you accused on your own, tell people that what you say yourself was only assumed (= could be or could be not true, because of it only being assumed by yourself), would be a true, and you think thats ok? If you want to tell people something, then simply ask for it. I have an PM, and this is a forum and you can write. I mean how weird is it, to simply write something about me, without even knowing or asking me?


I dont throw an accusation, how can something being the truth most probably be correct? And no, telling "I believe that you ...." is an assumption, that can be corrected. Telling "You have..." is a lie, and can only be corrected by telling you to stop lying and trying that absolutly not acceptable manipulations. If you lie, ten telling you to stop lying, IS NO PERSONAL ATTACK. As it is no personal attack to tell someone that is pissing on me to stop pissing. As far as I know there is an easy possibility to not be told to stop being a liar, and this is not to lie.

Its done for me. I dont see sense anymore, reading and talking to your lies or thread that you only create to make fun of people. If you think thats funny, then laugh about the few people still not ignoring you.

lol You're a drama queen, Shneek, I said it was an assumption, an assumption I believed strongly it's true, and no, I don't recall the part where you said that it was a gift - your posts are usually too long so I might had missed some parts especially when I am on phone - knowing this, I apologize for assuming you have other calenders - I admit it was a wrong conclusion from my side. And English isn't my native language btw so sometimes while I mean to expresss assumption, it comes out more like confirming.

Same question can be asked about muscles on men?

Sure. Plenty of women dream of tall, willowy, romantic figures with flowing locks and a honey tongue....

I don't know who the second guy was but gerald butler say for the movie 300. Do you think his body is better in that movie?

I found this on a forum called AnabolicMinds.com. Like it is hard to accuse someone of being on steroids, I don't really know much about stuff you can take, but these guys would have an idea. There is a poll that 73% think he was on steroids.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids ... movie.html

Hotter in the first picture. He looked good in Tomb raider 2, but the Phantom of the Opera was my fav.

^But he is in better shape in the 300 movie.

I did some searching here is a pre roids pic when he was young



Here is a who ate all the pies pic.



Which one is hotter?

I will go with the second pick on this one. It's not about being in ultimate shape, but proportion more. I don't find the other pick unattractive honestly. It reminds me a little of my husband.

I don't think most women really want to see each individual muscle etched out individually. Some muscle is good, strength is good, but playing xylophone on abs doesn't scream sex appeal. Nice pics, though.

I don't know about Gerard there, but a lot of guys do fill out more a little later in life--steroid free.

MjrMajorMajor well I don't actually believe you are being truthful.

I saw you post that you thought Joe Manganiello had the greatest body. Is he roided? I don't know, but he is a body builder and is super ripped. So going with that, I'd say you like the gerald butler 300 movie body the best.

http://www.celebitchy.com/301261/joe_ma ... ss_or_hot/

Also strange how ladywoofwoof went from posting body builders to feminine asian men.

Anyway interesting thread. I actually didn't know all this stuff and I am really suspect about ripped male actors now.

Yes, what it's very suspicious is how these actors go from normal body to super ripped in a very short time, I wouldn't be surprised if Spartan warriors were ripped back then because eugenics were applied (killing weaker babies) and they trained ferociously everyday since they were kids. This is not like the actor who gets that ripped in 2 or 3 years.

this is a picture of Manganiello in 2012:

http://www.thefashionspot.com/assets/up ... 973957.jpg


Didn't he look WAY less ripped than 2013??

If you look at the comments below, you'll find a majority liking it (and obviously some were horny lol) while a minority disliking it.

I dunno, but I don't see fake boobs get a majority of positive comments from guys.

The thing is that he is an actor. According to the film infos he was payed already 6 months before, to spend about 10 hours a day with olympic fitness trainers including about 6 hours a day for exclusively muscle building. Additional to that, they got muscle, shadow paintings for every scene. And additional the very outstanding pics in the the scene where his body was very obvious (I´d guess the picture you posted would be one of them, because of it being a very prominent scene.) are additional computerized to enhance that even more.

I still dont get, why you may think that because of that ordinary woman, would want their ordinary men to quit their incoming jobs, so that they can train 10 hours a day, AND additional want to do 2 other jobs to pay their husbands the needed olympic sport trainer AND diet specialists AND additional the daily needed professional body painter with medical knowlege AND additional woudlnt want to see their husbands again in reality, because reality cant computerize pictures.

Its nice to have a look at those. Just like men like to watch women with faked endless lust in porns. But I think we all know, that its only a fake and cant be achieved in ordinary reality, so noone has that expectations on a real partner. Its nothing else with picture girls having wonderful long hair. Sure my partner likes woman with wonderful, perfect long hair. It looks nice. But I am simply an ordinary woman, and cant spend my whole day on caring for my hair, I have a job we need for income, I have housework to do, I cant spend tons of money on haircaring products. That doesnt make him an hypocrate when he thinks a woman on a poster has really nice long hair. Why should he denie that, only because of us being an normal ordinary couple, and so not having time and ressources to acchieve that? Is he not allowed to think that his VW car is a really cool car and be absolutely happy with that, only because of him liking to watch my chiefs Porsche, when he visits me in company? That doesnt make him a hypocrite, and that doesnt push the expectation on me for buying him a Porsche. I know he is happy with his VW, but yeah, if he can take a close look at a Porsche by chance, he does so.

Schneekugel wouldn't it be great if your husband actually thought you were the most beautiful woman in the world. Like him looking at fantasy women is something that is understandable, it is not like he is cheating on you or anything, but wouldn't it be awesome if he had eyes for you and no other.

Same thing with me, as boo pointed out with all the comments on that link I put there. How can a guy not want to have a body like that with those comments. Like that seems to be the ideal to try and aim somewhere towards. But like I said before I think it's an alpha thing, if all guys looked like that there would be another beauty standard.

Yeah I agree it's a fantasy thing. Like those pics I put of gerald to me he looks like a regular guy.

It's not the same but I see it a bit like this.
Say you had men holding up women that were bone thin anorexic as the most beautiful in the world.
That is kind of what women are doing to us on the ripped look, like you have to do an insane amount of work in the gym, (looks like taking drugs, etc) and then starve yourself to show your abs and muscles drop body fat.

I guess what I find a bit annoying is that women claim not to care about looks in men. But the reality is they really do. If women just posted pics of ordinary guys as their hottest, I would believe it. But it doesn't work that way.

I never said those things.

The best one is this.