The UCSB shooter--an Aspie with a rant against women

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The first few pages were an interesting discussion.. Now it's just people who believe the ladder theory is the theory of EVERYTHING. I used to believe that crap too when i was younger - like 17 and wanted a girlfriend - and a virgin. Now? it is a silly joke to suck dollars out of losers who think b*****s only want money.

Yeah you can envy people like Dan Bilzerian, but hey.. do you REALLY think these hot girls want him for the person who he is? Those girls are not women!

You all need to get out of your caves and actually start to get REAL LIFE experience before you ever take a look at that pick up artist bible bullcrap again.

I have friend zoned women.
99% of the womens have the attractiveness of a potato to me, even when i consider them very good looking and i do want to have a photoshoot with them.
And no, i am not gay.

And hey, guess what?

GIRLS THINK EXACTLY THE SAME WAY ABOUT US!

So, keep paying your 'desperate' dollars to these PUA websites and still be a virgin next year.

And please, spare me the biological bullcrap about breeding. I mean, even a loser like me had 6 relationships in like 4 years time, all of them were good looking. You can study ALL the bullcrap that is out there about dating and the so called law of attraction (LOL) but it still will not help you in anyway, it will just let you believe things that are not real.. like the loch ness monster

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When I see anyone in an expensive car I think to myself: "I wonder what they do for a living?" I wonder what their job is like and whether it is an interesting line of work or do they work and work and work at a job they hate so they can have a certain lifestyle. I wonder if it's the kind of job I could handle or would it be too difficult for me. I also wonder if it's all bluff and they are massively in debt. Sometimes I just look at the car because I am interested in design and I think "That's an interesting design for headlights. What a clever idea."

Thinking about reproducing with the driver of the car never comes into my mind.

When I see a man who says intersting things, seems quite balanced and reasonable, has nice, kind looking eyes and who seems an all round good sort of person, even if I'm not immediately attracted to his looks, he tends to grow on me and I start thinking about him more and wanting to spend more time with him. It's how he treats other people that draws me to him in the most part. Someone can be really interesting and clever, but if he has a short temper, is moody and takes offense easily I won't go out with him. Negativity and being judgemental about others is a huge turn off for me.

At this point I probably haven't even noticed what kind of car he drives or how much money he has. Someone who is good at his job is attractive to me because of the skills he has, say a carpenter because I'm rubbish at woodwork and I think that's clever that he can make a table and I can't. It's not how much money he earns that is important to me, it's that he is sensible and intelligent enough to be a responsible person that I can share my life with and converse with on my level. I want someone as equally capable as myself on an intelligence level.

^ Were you like this 5 years ago? 10 years?

Yes, I've always been this way. 10 years ago I thought myself to be madly in love with a man 20 years older than me. He was very surprised by this to say the least. He thought I should be with a handsome, young man, with hair, my own age. But looks don't matter to me as much as personality. Poor guy nearly died of shock when I told him how I felt. Anyway, he told me to look for someone more age appropriate. My first experience of limerance.

Everyone I've ever been interested in has been an interesting kind of man with a good sense of humour, whom I could have good conversations with. My only boyfriend quite possibly has AS. I was 17 when we were dating and he was 9 years older than me. He wasn't a very nice person though, he was the sarcastic type that put others down and that's how I learned that I don't like negative people because it turned out that he was charming at first, but started putting me down too, but if we are talking about the kind of cars men drive, he couldn't even drive, so that's a moot point in my attraction to him. He was an unskilled labourer too, so no fancy home or high income either. I liked him because he was quirky like me and was obsessed with music too.

I now have a crush on someone 5 years younger than me who I did not find attractive at first (I was going to write specifically why, but it seemed really unkind when I typed it out) but getting to know him better I'm very impressed by his outlook on life. He always has something positive to say and he has a lovely smile and people who know him have good things to say about him. My hang up is that he might think I'm too old. His friends are all younger than me and that intimidates me. I see him in passing quite often around town, but don't have the courage to have much conversation. He's shy too. Oh no here comes limerance again!

Right, exactly. And yes, Boo, always. Back in college I knew a number of rich boys with fancy sports cars and I wasn't interested in any of them. I wasn't even all that interested in having a ride in the cars. I wasn't interested in cars. The boys were interested in cars.

I like my car very much, but if a guy started hanging around because he thought I had a cool ride, I'd think there was something very, very wrong with him.

ETA: Multimillion-dollar apartments in beautiful spots did catch my eye, I'll admit. But once I found out what the maintenance costs on those things I just wasn't interested anymore. Because that's insane, paying that kind of money, unless you're so rich you don't even know what money means. People could use that.

Editing again: just returned from a trip where I stayed with very wealthy people, old friends. The guys who made all the loot are dead now. They were horrible human beings who crippled everyone they spent significant time with. That's usually how you make a giant amount of money: you're a sociopath, and you'll do things sane and kind people won't.

I've asked you that hurtloam because often people say that "people change" but I've always noticed it's not the case especially when it comes to this matter, people who were shallow in their 18s are still shallow to this day, and the ones who weren't still aren't.

i don't think its a case of wanting to reproduce with a guy cause he has a nice car, but more of if its between two identical guys and one has a nice car, great paying job, and sweet house, and the other has a old car, min wage job and rents a appartment. pleanty of women will chose the first guy do to society saying its the better choice. that a guy who say walks everwhere he goes and loves his min wage job and appartment is not worthy anything.

similar to how I am ok not having any talents or gifts, but women take great offensive to it and say they won't date a guy who isn't talented in something. not everyone can be a painter, musician, sports player, or actor/actress. there are a great number of people who are n't talented at anything. they are just good or average at many things. I fail to see a problem. I would be find dating a girl who has hobbies but has no talents. if she enjoys making crappy pottery then so bee it if she makes fantastic pottery then so be it to.

not so easy to throw off the voices of many women and people who say I am worthless. even if I found my life and goals to be acceptable. another example is those who travel all the time. I am quite happy living here for the rest of my life without seeing the rest of the world.

aside from my desire to be alone which would and does cause alot of my depression. I wonder if I would not be happier if I was the sole human in existence. no other people to tell me I'm worthless. perhaps it makes them feel better about their life to say others who didn't do what they did or want what they want are failures and worthless. there by making it seem like they are more worthy and a success.

this system often happens in other areas. people who bought object A will say object B is s**t in order to make them feel better about their purchase.

But there aren't two identical guys. And what you're saying about min wage guys, carless guys, etc. simply isn't true. Many women here have actually shown up to tell you yes, we dated poor guys, guys without cars, etc., because that wasn't the important bit.

And I think it's the unusual woman who's seriously looking for someone who's talented. Talent is a major pain in the ass. Talented people who're using what they've got are generally unbelievably selfcentered and busy with their work.

Depression, otoh, really does push people away. People do want to be with someone who's generally positive and gives them a lift to be around, not someone who needs constant reassurance and bucking-up, and who can be counted on to see the gloomy spot every time. It's rough on the spirit, being around someone who's persistently down, negative, irritable. One of the reasons actually I seldom talk to my exbf anymore...it's so exhausting, and he's so wrapped up in feeling bad, and it's been that way for at least a year. You forget how to smile, being around someone like that all the time.

If you're persistently depressed, I'd really recommend going for therapy and treatment.

not true, you can find two guys who are handsome, kind, funny and sweet and vary similar. this is cause there are billions of people odds are you will have people who can be very similar. lot of the guys at my walmart look very similar. you guys also said you wouldn't do it again and look for guys that have those things so you wouldn't have to support a guy again no?

its like saying that i dated a abusive guy in the past so its proof abusive guys can get gf's but I wont date a abusive guy again. not very hopeful knowledge. I have no doubt that social exvorts and good liars who are also poor and homeless can get women. my uncle is one and a a**hole and he gets women. but for those who aren't good liars or extroverts it is near impossible.

not really. I know a few talented people and they are not self centered. my friend is talent at shooting and science, not self centered. my sister is talented at music and knitting clothes. she is very out to help the kids at her church. I don't mean people who are the famous or super talented. a person who can play the guitar is talented. as is a person who craft stuff out of wood. something I can do but is challenging to me. I haven't done it in years.


i find people who are always cheerful and happy annoying. people can be dying around them and they be smiling and laughing like WTF. I prefer middle ground people like me. though I haven't been as balanced as i once was, this does not mean that I do not get happy or can't be hopeful in a bad situation.

yeah so they can tell me to go get sunshine that fix you up. or maybe finding friends and a lover will. when was I most happy. when I had tons of friends to hang out with. I have none of that and am alone almost 24/7 as therapist can't make me friends and don't get why am was and am sad they are quite useless and only a threat to my remaining happiness. if i go to one I would lose my hobbies which are all that is left to bring me happiness aside from some shows/movies that break through the required lack of smiling. nope companionship is what I need. I wasn't designed to be alone. while i can't handle parties I do need daily postie human contact. the last month didn't give that from work as the one guy was mean to me just about every day.

if I could just go back to highschool. you would think I would be sad then being bullied and disliked. but at least I had like 10 steady friends I hung out with every day.

back on topic despite what the 5 women here say, the reality is the majority of single dating women demand those things. and they find any guy lacking just one of them to be worthless in their eyes. so unless one of you is wanting to date me, i must deal with the reality of the world I live in. until I meet those demands I will be considered worthless and passed on for guys who have them . though the women remain single cause the guys apparently lack their other requirements of personality traits. and thus they continue their search for that elusive perfect man. or as they call them now "real man" apparently I am neither man or woman now lol

just learning to accept this is how life is meant to be. life is sh***y and sad then we die. for the few who are able to find love and success ie happiness I envy them.

to sum up it is true and it isn't
it isn't true to you and some of the others here, but it is true to a bit of women out in the world. just as there are guys who only date women based on if they look good in a bikini, but also guys who date women based on their personality.

I have not meet any like you women on here in my area. except for married women, which is useless to me. perhaps they are all arleady in relationships?
either way it leaves me with the women that take job, car, home, looks, as very serious and more important then personality, it is also important, but deciding factors are 1.job, car, looks if pass move to does he have a good personality if pass then date.
then theres the boat load of the "wanting a cowboy" or "wanting a country boy" I lack a truck , horses, and tattoos they want. though half of them want the guy to have truck, job, home, and have his whole life planned out.

and yet I don't hate women, I find their blind obedience to what society says is important annoying is all. and its depressing to read profile after profile of this s**t. they have similar interests to me, sound like good personality especially the playful ones. then get to the bottom where it lis the must have for the guy. it only get's worse the older they get, the more being a provider or matching thier level of income becomes important. why aren't they are match.com or eharmony. or another paid site. it would seem those would more suit them as the guys would have to be wealthy enough to pay the high prices of membership. if i had a good job I'd be there. aside from eharmony which told me there is no possible match for me

well off to read today's cl adds likely to depress me but who knows maybe todays the day one of the rare women who don't care about items and money will post. its why I go thru the daily depression of reading ads and profiles for hope of finding one.