all women I meet seem to be insensitive jerks

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She said she liked a nice guy.

You said that "Woman actually do go for nice guys; but only once they are older, uglier, and all used up"

Do you not actually read what you're quoting/writing?

She has Aspergers. Her needs, wants, and the way she sees the world is completely different.
When I was referring to woman I mean the general population of neurotypical females.

I am not trying to supplicate anything I honestly am a genuine nice guy. It is not my problem if they do not want to see that. You just have to move on to the next person.

And I am actually not doing what your saying. I am being nice to be nice because that is just how I am. I am not going to start acting like a jerk to counterbalance my niceness. No one should ever use being nice as a way of manipulation. No wonder people are failing at talking to women.

Where are you pulling this info out of your butt. Obviously you are talking about a certain subset of women. Guys that go out to get laid can only get with these monstrous type. I have no interest in women like that.

I will not sacrifice my values and sink to that level to meet a woman. Keep being nice because eventually a real woman will want a real man not some boy. And the woman who want insensitive jerks need to grow up because they are disgusting to me.

Maybe this all has to do with opinion.

"It is not my problem if they do not want to see that."
They do see it, and this is why they don't want you. That mind set is the reason you won't be sucessful. Like it or not woman control the dating and sex game. If you don't want to change to become attractive to woman then don't.

"No one should ever use being nice as a way of manipulation."
They don't. This has never worked for getting sex. Only an idiot or someone that has nothing else to offer would use being as nice as their last attempt at getting a woman in bed.

" Keep being nice because eventually a real woman will want a real man not some boy. And the woman who want insensitive jerks need to grow up because they are disgusting to me. "
Do woman want you? Also I never said be a jerk. I said stop being nice to supplicate to her. It lowers your value in her eyes making you weak. You can still be a confident man without supplicating.

Here is a perfect article explaining why buying a girl a drink will automatically make it so she won't have sex with you.
http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/03_A ... rink.shtml

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That makes no sense. I think I am just going to stick with women who are introverted. shy, or have AS if this is true. This is basically just guys misunderstanding women. It is impossible for guys to really figure out women they have been trying since the dawn of man. What makes women tick? only they know the truth honestly. Guys imagine things because they need to fill in the blanks because of doubt. Honestly these guys saying this where is the data to back this up. Talking to women? Honestly women do not even know what the deal is themselves. Now one guy can say what women want and all of a sudden every one believes him. You are just being gullable which unfortunatley is a trait of many who suffer from AS.

"It is not my problem if they do not want to see that."
They do see it, and this is why they don't want you. That mind set is the reason you won't be sucessful. Like it or not woman control the dating and sex game. If you don't want to change to become attractive to woman then don't.

"No one should ever use being nice as a way of manipulation."
They don't. This has never worked for getting sex. Only an idiot or someone that has nothing else to offer would use being as nice as their last attempt at getting a woman in bed.

" Keep being nice because eventually a real woman will want a real man not some boy. And the woman who want insensitive jerks need to grow up because they are disgusting to me. "
Do woman want you? Also I never said be a jerk. I said stop being nice to supplicate to her. It lowers your value in her eyes making you weak. You can still be a confident man without supplicating.

Here is a perfect article explain why buying a girl a drink will automatically make it so she won't have sex with you.
http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/03_A ... rink.shtml[/quote

So Now I am an idiot. Whatever man. You are one to talk.

Little hint there, EVERYONE is different. No two NTs are the same, as no two Aspies are the same. Everyone has different needs, wants and the way they see the world.

just ignore him, hes bought into the whole PUA/misogynist/GetLosersCash PUA stuff, and abjectly refuses to believe anyone who says otherwise..
because he read it on the internet..
despite having never used it successfully..

Yeah you are right it is not worth arguing. Honestly I have read all that stuff and it is definitely not good. PUA it's called? Never knew that. I saw this one thing where it was like the three text messages that will attract any women. Sounds like a load of crap to me. Some women just will not like you no matter what you do. And that is a fact.

Thanks for explaining this to me. I guess I was getting all upset and I should have listened to myself from the beginning and not bought into this stuff.

PUA is for people whose only purpose is to get laid. I think the OP wants an actual lasting relationship. PUA BS won't lead to that. It will lead to a one-night-stand at best and the woman will hate you once she figures out you were putting on an act to get sex. PUA is also stupid in that it relies on superficial attraction and pure numbers/odds. Yea, if you have the confidence to approach 1000 random women and don't mind getting rejected most of the time, there's a chance at least one or two will go for it. However, the chance that there will be any meaningful emotional connection to become a long term relationship is close to zero. You'll get either a.) a desperately needy woman who falls for the superficial attention but then hates you when she finds out you've been acting to get sex b.) a horny woman looking for a one night stand. The former will give the OP a reputation of being an a**hole and the latter isn't what he's looking for. PUA is pointless.

Agreed.
Once I realized I can't get a girlfriend I accepted that the next best option is casual sex.
For a lot of ASDs forming an emotional connection to a woman is extremely hard. Often times it will result in adult Incel which will cause lots of psychological affects. I am alreadying starting to have being an Incel affect my current life.

Also it doesn't have to be a one night stand. As long as she doesn't have buyers remorse after sex then you can establish a f**k buddy. Personally I do everything alone so I think it would be really nice to have a girl I can have over after work, get high, f**k, and then cuddle or watch a movie.

PUA is not pointless. Just because the majority of PUAs enjoy lots of different woman doesn't mean it can't be used to get a girlfriend.

Some of PUA can be using lies (DHV's) to trick the woman to easily sleep with you. But you don't have to lie. If you are already someone like myself who is good looking, sucesful (first year of university), social proof (live with four attractive girls), but simply has a really sh***y personality, then PUA can teach someone such as myself and most Aspies the social dynamics of dating. I didn't know stuff like you had to maintain to eye contact with her and not break it first. Or that if you go and dance clumsy (due to AS) she will think you are bad in bed. The body language stuff is great. Without PUA how would an Aspie be able to know when a female is showing sexual interest? Having the body landuage analyzed and broken down allows our amazing memories to understand it well. Most of us have high IQs yet for some reason won't use that to their advantage to understand this social behaviour.

A true nice guy wouldn't feel the need to call himself nice. Being nice isn't some kind of bonus that deserves praise or extra consideration. It's a prerequisite. If "being nice" is the only thing you have going for you than of course you're not going to find anyone.

I'm not an insensitive jerk

I just do not understand why if you are nice to some women and treat her with respect they do not want to be in a relationship with you. And this is only some women. Saying all women are like this is totally untrue. I guess maybe if you are being overly nice this makes sense especially with first impressions. Being overly nice could be a cover for the fact that you are actually trying to get them back to your place for sex. But this is not always true. Some people are nice because they want you to like them and they want to pursue a meaningful relationship with you. Unfortunately this should not be overdone on the first date. It is like the first interview at a job. People are way more harsh of your behavior and look more closely at the behavior so they can sum you up quickly. It is like the first "test" so to speak.

And yes you do need other qualities besides being nice to get a woman to like you. It could be your personality, you are intelligent, handsome, interesting or even quirky. The fact is there is really nothing you can do if someone does not like you. They just don't and they generally do not know why specifically. They just do not like you. There are people that I do not like and I have no idea why. Just a feeling I cannot really explain.


Honestly I am nice because I think it is the right thing to do. Period. But there is nothing wrong with being nice because people are nice to you in return. If you act a certain way there is always a reason for it even if you do not know what it is. If you are nice people will generally be nice to you back. At least that is the proper thing to do. Even if someone hates your guts they will act polite to you because that is what people in civilized society do. It is expected of us and most NTs do this. "Aspies" generally have a hard time with this "dance" because it seems false to them.

Okay think about this. Would you honestly like someone who does not like you to tell it to your face and then rattle off reasons why they do. Honestly you would probably want to punch them in the nose. At least I would. I mean most people do not want to hear the blunt truth. It is why many NTs can be very rude to "aspies" because they believe "aspies" are rude based on their brutal honestly or their "apparent" disregard for others feelings. And usually the "aspie" is just confused because he does not understand this concept.

As an "aspie" I have had to force myself to adhere to many NT rules because it is expected of me. This is the only way you will ever be able to make friends, have relationships or hold a job. You have to learn self-restraint and sometimes put your "foot" in your "mouth". Unfortunately NTs outnumber us "aspies" so we somewhat have to compensate for that by having to change more than NTs. Sad but true I am afraid. It is like the old saying "when in rome do as the romans do". I guess we are "aspies" in an NT world which is why we think we are from the wrong planet. Maybe we are.

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