Toxic femininity
i get what you mean - but I lack any attachment to clothes whatsoever
for me it's not a way I'll express myself, i just don't put any effort into it apart from washing it daily. all my clothes are at least 10 years old, but that's because I hate shopping clothes. I have one pyjama I wore when i was 10, and I can still fit into it. ![]()
I don't think the three girls that would date a millionaire were polygamous. More likely they would have dumped their guy for a millionaire. Most gold diggers probably are NT and monogamous.
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Except that the % of women in the world who have hypergamous tendencies and potential gold diggers are way more than the % of men who are potential rapists.
If they are equal in numbers, then mankind deserves to be fried by an Armageddon meteor
So for a woman not to be a gold digger she has to marry someone with less money than she has, instead of marrying for love??
Maybe I'm old fashioned...but I still believe that love trumps all
Love is love, all the rest is just confused BS.
She can marry the wealthiest man while not necessarily being a gold digger and simply just loves him.
But if he's as old as her grandpa, or if he's extremely ugly and morbidly fat while she's one of the 100 Sexiest Models in the World, or she leaves him once he loses his wealth then ...yeah...chances are high she's a gold digger and I would way be less inclined to believe her love was genuine.
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Am unfamiliar with dating sites, dont like the idea of being toyed with, I mean if you can do it for a thread, then there must be a lot more doing it for other less honest purposes too. Curiosity really.
I am a jerk, a toxic male, have a problem with that?
It just a one-time prank for them, then I block them, it's not like I am leading them to fall for me or something.
I don't know if this sort of trolling would be considered toxic masculinity. It isn't a "nice" thing to do but to me it doesn't really sound like the toxic masculinity described in the article in the toxic masculinity thread.
Which is the jerker and more toxic in your opinion, judge Agemaki? Who's the less moral?
The man who does a harmless instant prank and disappears or the woman who turned out to be willing to reconsider her boyfriend for that, or the woman who accepts to be a girlfriend of a married man (with two wives!)?
I read the whole screenshot series of conversations. Wow.
I think the most toxic person/least moral person in that whole thing was the one willing to reconsider her boyfriend. She is willing to hurt somebody else (her boyfriend) for her own gain.
I don't consider either you or the woman who would be girlfriend-on-the-side to be toxic/immoral. Why? Because neither of you would be causing harm. Your prank causes no harm and being one more woman in an already poly relationship doesn't look like harm to me either. It's because it's already a poly relationship. If this woman was willing to be girl-on-the-side to a man whose wife thought she had a monogamous relationship with her husband, then harm is being caused to this wife because she is being cheated on. In poly relationships, the whole idea of "cheating on" seems different and maybe doesn't exist. (Or maybe it does. I don't know.)
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Am unfamiliar with dating sites, dont like the idea of being toyed with, I mean if you can do it for a thread, then there must be a lot more doing it for other less honest purposes too. Curiosity really.
I am a jerk, a toxic male, have a problem with that?
It just a one-time prank for them, then I block them, it's not like I am leading them to fall for me or something.
I don't know if this sort of trolling would be considered toxic masculinity. It isn't a "nice" thing to do but to me it doesn't really sound like the toxic masculinity described in the article in the toxic masculinity thread.
Which is the jerker and more toxic in your opinion, judge Agemaki? Who's the less moral?
The man who does a harmless instant prank and disappears or the woman who turned out to be willing to reconsider her boyfriend for that, or the woman who accepts to be a girlfriend of a married man (with two wives!)?
I read the whole screenshot series of conversations. Wow.
I think the most toxic person/least moral person in that whole thing was the one willing to reconsider her boyfriend. She is willing to hurt somebody else (her boyfriend) for her own gain.
I don't consider either you or the woman who would be girlfriend-on-the-side to be toxic/immoral. Why? Because neither of you would be causing harm. Your prank causes no harm and being one more woman in an already poly relationship doesn't look like harm to me either. It's because it's already a poly relationship. If this woman was willing to be girl-on-the-side to a man whose wife thought she had a monogamous relationship with her husband, then harm is being caused to this wife because she is being cheated on. In poly relationships, the whole idea of "cheating on" seems different and maybe doesn't exist. (Or maybe it does. I don't know.)
I am convinced.
I want 4 wives + n girlfriends, time to build my harem!
But in reality, this not how Sultans and wealthy princes do it, they would marry a new wife or take a new 'cohabitate' - without even taking the opinion of the first wife, for them she simply has no say in the matter. If the wife's family is equally powerful then they might use some power of pressure to prevent this.
The girl is too naive to believe that my fictional 2 wives wouldn't mind
I can't say I have dealt with golddiggers IRL. What I have dealt with are the types that believe that I as a man should be able to know what a girl wants without them communicating this to me. The vast majority of women I dated had this belief that men should be mind readers and that we shouldn't have to ask them what is wrong when it is very clear that they are bothered by something and need to talk it out.
May have been more immaturity than toxic behavior. Or perhaps it could have been Boo being the other guy in the picture offering himself as a millionaire to these girls. ![]()
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It is not immoral to have feelings for someone else. It is immoral to cheat because you have not told the other person.
I guess this is part of the reason why marriage doesn't mesh well with me; people aren't owned, even in the most loving relationships. If you desire someone else besides your partner, it is equally if not more bad for the partner to tell you that you cannot be with that person. One's own happiness can and should never trump someone else's happiness-you are responsible for yourself, and they are responsible for themselves. To tell someone else 'you can't do this thing that will make you happy because it will make me unhappy' is selfish, puts your locus of control of happiness onto someone else, and is attempting to control another person like they must obey you. It also removes the joy of what love is; freely giving of yourself to someone else, because if it is being done because some social expectation that must be fulfilled, how can one be sure it is freely given?
It is, however, also the social norm, which is disturbing to the say the least.
This is kinda off topic; not talking about gold diggers here :-p
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Take a general statement about something and then giving a single counter-example does not make the initial general statement wrong though. I said nothing about there not being sexism existing in the even the most unsexist places on earth.
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Take a general statement about something and then giving a single counter-example does not make the initial general statement wrong though. I said nothing about there not being sexism existing in the even the most unsexist places on earth.
lol and neither did I say that you said anything about there not being sexism existing in the even the most unsexist places on earth.
i've just seen enough of Balkan area toxicity on both sides to disagree...but I'm not particularly well acquainted with mid eastern zone to be a proper judge and compare fully objectively.
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That was not nice of your mother or the girls, I don't think that liking fashion is a must for beeing a girl or something that a boy can't be interested in.
thanks! yes, every time i tell her i don't want any more clothes (she can't stand to see me wearing same pair of trousers over and over again) I still get called names even after I'd left home some 15 years ago. that's what mothers do, I guess
I think people are more than what they wear, but I could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time either
I think that liking fashion has nothing to do with money. I mean I love De sterrennacht, but it doesn't mean that I have to have the original hanging on my wall to be able to appreciate it.
Fashion can be clothes found in a cheap shop or in a thrift shop. What is bad is when for instance people; mostly children get bullied for not being able to afford certain brands. But that has nothing to do with fashion; it has to do with people looking down on those that have less. What does a t-shirt from some expensive brand have to do with fashion? Nothing, it just turns you in to a living commercial.
I completely agree with your last statement, and since I'm never wrong (inserts sarcasm) you cannot possibly be wrong either
dunno, i just see homeless people begging, and gypsy mothers with babies, in dirty clothes, or no clothes, and I used to love certain kind of retro hippy clothes when I was younger...but now I just wear anything that is clean and fits me and doesn't really look as if it it was worn by my late grandma.
Since here it's exactly as you said - fashion means having money, showing it off and looking down at people...like in primary school, when only those who had "Nike" or "Reebok" tennis shoes were popular. I rarely see anyone following fashion in the sense you've described.
A nice Vietnamese girl I met contracting at Micro$oft had a The Devil Wears Prada wallpaper on her workstation. She was the first to get sacked. Then my team lead. Then me. I know for a fact we all did our jobs exquisitely. The lead who took over was hard to recognize when she changed appearances.
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That said, if all parties are in agreement I don't see why a polygamous relationship is problematic.
I feel like my dream of serving a strong, 'warrior queen' matriarch, even in the divided states of America, is surprisingly attainable!
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