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07 Nov 2015, 4:45 pm

I agree, InsomniaGirl. Love is, to me, something that simply 'is' [like energy and God/Godess/Spirit and really knowing things].


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07 Nov 2015, 5:17 pm

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No, and I don't believe most of what you see of 'love' is love, because humans are slaves to their instincts.

So much of it is vanity, take away the materialism and it breaks.

TBH, I think humans deserve each other, so maybe I do? They seem like a perfect fit, vain people for other vain people.


Yes, love can be a selfish and a vain reflection for approval..but there are also types of love that can be selfless and altruistic in nature. Many people choose to be vegetarian because they realize all life is equal and deserving of universal love, that is an altruistic act in itself.

I certainly do not measure or gain from people for what I can take from them..sure, some relationships are a mutually beneficial exchange that involve leverage but that is how relationships and allegiances work.

My father certainly was not a slave to his instincts when he worked every single day to provide for his family and many people have to make sacrifices every day because they realize the greater good of building something with a foundation. That is how a relationship works, why do you expect something for nothing or everything on a platter?



I think love can not be seen completely in what people do. Love shows up as an energy, within actions. Its good to remain cautious about what love is, as so many cruel things happen which people claim they do because of love. I don't think love can be put into words.


I differ from your opinion, actions speak louder than words. One meaningful act of valor or selflessness can hold more meaning than a thousand empty words. Love is subjective if it is this energy you speak of, selfish and selfless actions can exist in the context of love.

Commitment, duty, discipline and devotion are not so subjective. That is why I believe actions and substance are more meaningful than a few words.



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07 Nov 2015, 5:21 pm

In other words, show and tell! Isn't the act of writing words an action in of itself?


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07 Nov 2015, 5:45 pm

Kuraudo777 wrote:
In other words, show and tell! Isn't the act of writing words an action in of itself?


Actions speak for themselves, certain traits can not be proven by words alone but by faith and sacrifice, making compromises for one another and remaining devoted.

Words are simply an expression of our thoughts based on our state of mind or perception at that point in time.

Words and promises must be backed by actions and substance to be of value and merit.



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07 Nov 2015, 5:54 pm

For example, if I swore to defend you and put your safety or wellbeing first..i must honour that by acting in accordance with it.

Just as many people, servicemen and civil servants do everyday, that is an act of love in itself. That is why I believe traits and principles speak louder over feeling a warm energy inside.



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08 Nov 2015, 8:37 am

Yes in most circumstances words need to be backed up by actions. Sometimes the act of writing something can be loving, though it is often related to actions. The 'energy' I think is in the actions. I think it's wordless and defies description. Many philosophers I think have tried and only pointed in the direction of love, not defined it.


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08 Nov 2015, 12:02 pm

A soulmate? As in someone like predetermined or predestined to be together with you? Of course not. There's someone out there for everyone? Not likely. Love at first sight is lust at first sight not love, in retrospect I'm sure if someone you lusted over reciprocated back and you started a relationship then you might interpret that as love at first sight but they could of just as easily looked or spoke to you. I wish there was a person for everyone that would love and accept you as you are but there are pretty cookie cutter templates for what most people want out of a partner and if you fall too far outside of what the herd feels is the norm then you are much more likely to be rejected and alone than you are opposite. Makes sense biologically speaking, we're not much else. Everything else is just luck and we're too often on the s**t end of that stick. It's not magic, it's not Disney.



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09 Nov 2015, 10:02 am

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A Love at first sight is lust at first sight not love, in retrospect I'm sure if someone you lusted over reciprocated back and you started a relationship then you might interpret that as love at first sight but they could of just as easily looked or spoke to you.


Until I met my Fiancee I would have agreed. However, I am forced to say there is either a "higher" power that brought us together or there was an incredible series of coincidences. For the record, I know the difference between "love" and "lust". I have only ever gotten the feeling that a woman was meant to be in my life exactly twice: the first didn't work out in the end but set off a string of events that led to meeting the second. I knew from date #3 we were meant for each other and almost a year later we still haven't had a fight or major argument.

P.S. for the record, even though she is drop dead gorgeous (as pointed out by every guy who meets her) I was not physically attracted to her in that way: it was a weird, deep down feeling that she was something truly special in spite the fact on paper we were a total mismatch and had little in common. How wrong "paper" was!



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09 Nov 2015, 10:04 am

I'm searching for that deep down feeling. So far I haven't found it.
There are no coincidences! *Yoda voice*


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09 Nov 2015, 2:11 pm

If i really like someone in a romantic way, sex is not at the forefront of my mind.


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09 Nov 2015, 2:18 pm

^Same here.


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09 Nov 2015, 2:20 pm

Asterix and Obelix


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09 Nov 2015, 2:22 pm

^What does that mean?


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09 Nov 2015, 2:29 pm

Just Google it.
A girl on Facebook said that if you are destined to meet someone, it will happen no matter what. Being the snarky person that I am, I left a comment in which I disagreed, saying that nobody is destined to meet anyone. She replied, saying that it will always be a mystery whether this destiny thing exists or not. That's the way girls are, always in love and with their head in the clouds.


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09 Nov 2015, 2:32 pm

Try not to generalize. I know many women who are practical and interesting and down-to-earth.


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09 Nov 2015, 3:00 pm

Do you keep in touch with girls your age? They could find you a boyfriend.


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