The irrational standards women have toward men

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04 Jan 2018, 6:28 pm

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No your right only women are entitled to love and companionship. Men are just lucky to get any at all.


That isn't what I said, so please lay aside your strawman fallacy. If you want a debate I'm glad to oblige, but if you're going to argue with me based on your own statements for which you want me to take responsibility go find another playfellow.


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04 Jan 2018, 6:30 pm

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As long as he loves me, that's what really matters...

And he needs to have a good job. How else will we take care of our children?

And he's gotta earn at least six-figures minimum. You know, the economy, inflation, putting our kids through college, etc.

And he's gotta be quite handsome, physically fit, healthy, muscular, over six feet, low body fat percentage, can run a mile in under six minutes so that he can play with our children every day and never get tired.

And nobody over forty years old, please. I mean, your life is already half over. I need someone young and fun.

If a guy meets the above criteria, I'd definitely start thinking about dating him.

And who knows, if things go well, I might even introduce him to my father.

Then he'll have to impress my father, who has higher standards than I do.

And my father is very close to me, so you need his approval.

But yeah, the main thing is love.


I don't know where you live, but only about 20% of American households make six-figures (households, not men; meaning it's the income of a home family living together); so I would say only 10% of men make six-figures; and probably only 10% of men in the world are "quite handsome, physically fit, healthy, muscular, over six feet, low body fat percentage, can run a mile in under six minutes so that he can play with our children every day and never get tired".

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But yeah, the main thing is love.


Umm...are you being serious or trolling? After you list things that can only be found in a Hollywood actor you say that?

Either way, I think you're crazy.


I'm about 90% sure she's trolling. Most women who have those "qualifications" (which, wtf, men aren't job applicants. I know relationships are work, but come on) for even considering a guy won't openly and publicly declare them. If they ARE comfortable with publicly declaring them, they're the kind of women who wouldn't be on this forum at all. Unless someone hit the Infinite Improbability Drive, she's trolling.


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04 Jan 2018, 6:33 pm

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Women changed the system for themselves m why not change to help men?

Why? People, by and large, change things because they see a potential benefit to themselves.
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Reality is women will either have to start dating men they deem not good enough or start entering real where it’s one guy and multiple women.

Reality is a woman, as an individual human being, will choose for herself what course of action suits her best. We don't get together and have Worldwide Woman Summits where we decide as a single, monolithic entity what we're going to do to you menfolk.


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04 Jan 2018, 6:34 pm

People will hate me for saying this but most women would feel happier by staying at home and take care of their kids than doing a 9/5 job.

Women are more emotional, caring and built to raise a family something men aren't really capable of in most cases. We're built differently in most sense. Some people Saying that stereotypes like men are stronger and built to protect their families is a lie should attend a biology class and revision the biological and physical differences between sexes.

Nowadays social scientists chanting that gender is a social construct, really? Show me a single biological man who's capable of pregnancy. I tell you there's no such thing because men are incapable of getting pregnant.

We slowly get to the point when you can't acknowledge that black is not white because colors are also a social construct or if I claim myself to be a dog then I'm automatically a dog and I'm a human to dog trans racial.



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04 Jan 2018, 6:34 pm

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Are you sure it’s that, there is no possibility that your personality and methods of interacting with people are unattractive? Can you explain why so many short, bald and overweight men seem to have families?

lol sly. No one needs to change their standards. It’s your problem they aren’t attracted to you, not theirs. Feminism is about the oppression and mistreatment of women. If someone doesn’t want to date you, they’re not mistreating you. No one owes someone else their attraction.

You like healthy weight women, right? You sexually prefer them? Women with feminine body shapes? It’s because it’s what biology dictates. Healthy women promote healthy offspring. You don’t have to be attracted to fat women if you’re not feeling it.

Biology dictates in women to go for good providers, strong men who protect and provide, negotiation and social authority which adds to that protection etc.

How exactly is it fair for you to be allowed to not feel anything for fat women, but it’s not okay for women to follow those biological instincts?

It really seems more like you are all butt hurt no one will have you so you blame the world. It’s the way it is. I’m not ideal for men, and I don’t expect them to change for me!! ! ! !


Oh, hush.

We all know that only men are allowed to follow "biology."

Picky women are the reason Western civilization is falling, don't ya know.


Nobody talked about the fall of Western civilization. I don't even think there's such thing as a fall of Western civilization today. everybody is happy eat his Mcdonalds food use water to flush his s**t on the toilet where as African kids dye because of lack of water. from this perspective our lives is only wrong because of our own irrational standards and egoism that everybody has to post selfies on Instagram and constantly get obsessed with likes and comments on social media to feel fully humane.

If it was up to me we can all dye off, I don't want anyone to repdouce I support feminists to destoy every natural attempt which associate women with femininity I hope one day they will require women to take hormone therapy to turn themselves into men so they can compete with the rival sex even better. Let's have women with beards as well so they can enjoy the beard privilege and toxic masculinity also. :)

but of course you had to bring this discussion to off topic to win an argument when you can't face with truth you try to cope with bs nonsense like this.


No, several of the men on here have accused women's "pickiness" as the fall of Western civilization. That's what I'm referencing.

As for the rest of it, certain men will go to great length to excuse men's behavior as a result of "biology," while conversely condemning female behavior as the result of malice. It's amazing how quickly the conversation dies when I suggest that women have very sound and practical reasons for acting as they do.

Because it is. Women are too picky and won’t pair up, which means no babie,s which is why our fertility rate is dropping. How can you deny that. But it’s capitalism at fault, communism with all its faults is probably better for humanity. Capitalism tricked whole generations into believing the need lots of money to be happy and have families, money they need to spend on fancy things they don’t need so some rich guy becomes richer. And they susceeded, people now think they need 5 million dollars per kid to rais a kid. I didn’t have 5 million dollars, neither did my friends, or my siblings. Did your parents have 5 million dollars? What if like today your mom wouldn’t dated your dad unless he could provide that? You’d not be here. People are staying single and it’s certainly it cause there’s a lack of unwilling guys to date women. Here where I live there 3,000 more men then women. Yet lots of single women who claim there’s no men. Ther s a liberal s**t ton of men. So call bul***t on that. And all those men want to date women. So there’s no logical reason ther should be any single women who don’t want to be single except that th standards are so high thst most those men are deemed good enough. So they unhappily single but it’s their own fault.

Men who are unhappy single are always told to lower th standards that they aiming too high otherwise they’d have someone. Why aren’t women told their aiming too high and to lower the standard? No women don’t habe to they should have standards only men need to not have standards. Really seems to be this ideal women are better then men, more deserving of love and companionship, more deserving of quality men. And shouldn’t except less, but men need to just accept any woman who comes their way. It’s annoying.

Sorry if your a woman making min wage who’s fat, and lives off their parents at 30 you shouldn’t expect a well off thin handsome man who has his own place and a nice Carl those women’s standards are too high just as you’d tell a fat min wage guy who demands a super model that he’s Standards are too high and if he wants to meet someone he needs to lower them and look for women on his level.
Is it really too much to expect equality and that men and women with stupid standards trying to date above their league need to wake up to reality and look for guys in the level?



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04 Jan 2018, 6:36 pm

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No your right only women are entitled to love and companionship. Men are just lucky to get any at all.


That isn't what I said, so please lay aside your strawman fallacy. If you want a debate I'm glad to oblige, but if you're going to argue with me based on your own statements for which you want me to take responsibility go find another playfellow.

Maybe not but it’s how it came across.



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04 Jan 2018, 6:50 pm

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No your right only women are entitled to love and companionship. Men are just lucky to get any at all.


That isn't what I said, so please lay aside your strawman fallacy. If you want a debate I'm glad to oblige, but if you're going to argue with me based on your own statements for which you want me to take responsibility go find another playfellow.

Maybe not but it’s how it came across.

Perhaps it did to you. The only mention I made of entitlement was regarding the apparent perception on the part of some men that they're entitled to another person's time and attention merely because she's female.


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04 Jan 2018, 6:51 pm

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Women changed the system for themselves m why not change to help men?

Why? People, by and large, change things because they see a potential benefit to themselves.
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Reality is women will either have to start dating men they deem not good enough or start entering real where it’s one guy and multiple women.

Reality is a woman, as an individual human being, will choose for herself what course of action suits her best. We don't get together and have Worldwide Woman Summits where we decide as a single, monolithic entity what we're going to do to you menfolk.


Yep and that’s why I hate feminism. It’s not about equality just female empowerment. It will never ever do anything that’ll help men.

I’m sure how she was raised and media have nothing to do with how she decides.
No but you all watch media and advertisement and listen to parents. Who all say only date well off men, why? Because such men will buy their products, poor men don’t buy much stuff and so rich don’t make money. And the rich run the United States, they bribe and control ththeir government. If women only date well off men, it makes men strive to be well off. It’s all designed to make rich richer. Womennand men bought into it. Women mor so then men it seems. So no there’s no women group where women get together and decided this, they just follow social trends and media trends. It’s a generational brainwashing that’s been going on for a long time. Humans are group thinkers not individuals. We follow what society says to do. Look most people have a smart phone? Did we all get together and Decide that? No media pushed it as the new best thing, everyone wants to have th new best thing so we all run out and buy it and every year we run out and buy the new best thing, hive mind? No just society and media. Same with why most women all want th same thing in a guy. It’s not hive mind it’s society programming at its best. Women are Individuals but they are also like all humans highly susceptible to group think. It’s why propaganda works so well. It’s why mass advertising works so well, it’s why adepvertisers can do group surveys to figure out what will work on th masses. We aren’t as individual as we’d like to believe, or we’d all have inque phones that aren’t similar to anyone’s fohones, we all wear different clothes there’s be no fashion trends. Now humans are very group think. If tomorrow media started pushing how attractive poor men are eventually most women would prefer such men. Just like we millions of people all want that bronze iPhone or thst Samsung galaxy 9.
Or thst must have purse. But media wouldn’t benifit from women wanting poor guys, so movies and tv shows push thenwell off man and push how poor men are losers, if you think this has no effect on how women see such men and what men women desire your crazy, mass media works well. They have it down lokemclock work.

I’m not immune, just not as sucked in as others, I have an iPhone and want the new one. I have a PS4, I desire a Porsche 911 turbo. I suppose if I was able to work full time and find s good job I’d be more sucked in to it. Being poor kinda forces one out and makes them see the world as it really is. Though I’d much rather take the blue pill and go along with the illusion.(matrix reference) I’d gladly get w well off job, be superficial and have a superficial wife, etc. work for the rich man to make him richer, being on the outside sucks as much as it did in the matrix. Man does being on the outside in the matrix suck. Mean they live in a hole in buried trash. What do they eat. Who’d choose that over the illusion.



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04 Jan 2018, 6:58 pm

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No your right only women are entitled to love and companionship. Men are just lucky to get any at all.


That isn't what I said, so please lay aside your strawman fallacy. If you want a debate I'm glad to oblige, but if you're going to argue with me based on your own statements for which you want me to take responsibility go find another playfellow.

Maybe not but it’s how it came across.

Perhaps it did to you. The only mention I made of entitlement was regarding the apparent perception on the part of some men that they're entitled to another person's time and attention merely because she's female.


But most women feel the same way, so are not most women feeling they are entitled to another person timemand antention just cause they female? But women never got told this. No they get told they deserve love and companionship and they find someone. Lonely men get told they aren’t entitled to love and suck it up. It’s big hypocrisy I see on wp and all social media. No one every told hurtloam,slw,or the other lonely women here thst they aren’t entitled to love or anman. Most women I see in my area clearly feel entitled to a man and his income. It’s sickening. So all I ask is stop telling us we aren’t entitled to love or companionship, no s**t lady but we still lonely and sad, we still desire love and companionship. I don’t think any guy here feels he’s entitled to women. We just expressing how we desire it but men desiring love could only mean we feel entitled to it. And that’s how it comes across every time we complain and get some woman telling us we aren’t entitled to love .
We aren’t entitled to live either, no one is. Being born doesn’t entitle one to life.

What really gets me is they want to force us to live horrible sad lives, thy tell me to suck it up accept I’ll be alone forever, so I want to die, but they like no you have to live and suffer, so I can have a good life knowing you’re sufferingl

Freak them. If I can’t have love and companionship I don’t want to live, plain as that. I refuse to live just so as not to upset people perfect life’s,



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04 Jan 2018, 7:02 pm

Nothing good will come from this , none of the women here will admit fault of women in general. And men here won’t be brought around to see women as perfect and faultless.

So we just go around in circle. My opinion is women are too picky and most women are aiming way above their level, and thus end up alone forever. According to most women here there 1 guy for every woman so for every loser guy who’s not good enough for women there have to be a woman who’s alone forever cause she deems that guy not good enough.

What I do ask legitimately is why if men such as me aren’t good enough for any woman who do you care if we kill ourself? Do you just enjoy our suffering?



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04 Jan 2018, 7:07 pm

Almost all humans are "accumulative strivers", meaning if they think they CAN get more then they'll certainly try. It's a mix of biological imperative and social/cultural conditioning.

People suck, across the board, regardless of sex, race, beliefs or orientation. A great example of that fact is that everyone has to find a place to lay blame for anything they feel is unfair (excluding all instances of permanently damaging impact). Everyone is divided, ready to jump on the offense or defense, and it's shameful to be human.


What a time to be alive. :hmph:


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04 Jan 2018, 7:08 pm

Women wear wigs, high heels, fake nails, clothes which tighten their often fatty figures to appear "sexy" they go as far as to have facial surgeries, fake boobs, skin ageing creams, almost all women paint their hair. Everything a woman says almost always includes some little lie to appear a bit more perfect than they truly are. I can't help but it's in their genes. They have this utterly urge to appear as sexy as they can to attract the opposite sex while we men let's say..

wake up, wash our face about to take a shower once a day sometimes we skip it because we're lazy. We don't care if we don't appear perfect in front of everyone unless our job requires so. We don't make that much lies about our sexual needs and more can't talk about the other sex 24/7 like women chit chat with other women about men and their cock sizes.
Edit: I'm not sure how it's going among Asperger women but NT women love to talk about men's sizes and things like this like it makes an utterly important part of their inside "female talk" like conversation courses to gossip about men.



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04 Jan 2018, 7:11 pm

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Women wear wigs, high heels, fake nails, clothes which tighten their often fatty figures to appear "sexy" they go as far as to have facial surgeries, fake boobs, skin ageing creams, almost all women paint their hair. Everything a woman says almost always includes some little lie to appear a bit more perfect than they truly are. I can't help but it's in their genes. They have this utterly urge to appear as sexy as they can to attract the opposite sex while we men let's say..

wake up, wash our face about to take a shower once a day sometimes we skip it because we're lazy. We don't care if we don't appear perfect in front of everyone unless our job requires so. We don't make that much lies about our sexual needs and more can't talk about the other sex 24/7 like women chit chat with other women about men and their cock sizes.



You know, it's terrible to generalize, but get it off your chest I guess.


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04 Jan 2018, 7:12 pm

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Almost all humans are "accumulative strivers", meaning if they think they CAN get more then they'll certainly try. It's a mix of biological imperative and social/cultural conditioning.

People suck, across the board, regardless of sex, race, beliefs or orientation. A great example of that fact is that everyone has to find a place to lay blame for anything they feel is unfair (excluding all instances of permanently damaging impact). Everyone is divided, ready to jump on the offense or defense, and it's shameful to be human.


What a time to be alive. :hmph:


People do suck on so many levels.



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04 Jan 2018, 7:13 pm

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People will hate me for saying this but most women would feel happier by staying at home and take care of their kids than doing a 9/5 job.

Women are more emotional, caring and built to raise a family something men aren't really capable of in most cases. We're built differently in most sense. Some people Saying that stereotypes like men are stronger and built to protect their families is a lie should attend a biology class and revision the biological and physical differences between sexes.

Nowadays social scientists chanting that gender is a social construct, really? Show me a single biological man who's capable of pregnancy. I tell you there's no such thing because men are incapable of getting pregnant.

We slowly get to the point when you can't acknowledge that black is not white because colors are also a social construct or if I claim myself to be a dog then I'm automatically a dog and I'm a human to dog trans racial.


You obviously fundamentally misunderstand the difference between sex and gender, so it would be pointless to try to have a discussion with you on the topic without you doing some research and educating yourself first.



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Almost all humans are "accumulative strivers", meaning if they think they CAN get more then they'll certainly try. It's a mix of biological imperative and social/cultural conditioning.

People suck, across the board, regardless of sex, race, beliefs or orientation. A great example of that fact is that everyone has to find a place to lay blame for anything they feel is unfair (excluding all instances of permanently damaging impact). Everyone is divided, ready to jump on the offense or defense, and it's shameful to be human.


What a time to be alive. :hmph:


People do suck on so many levels.


It's exhausting. Especially when you'd really just like it if people could chill the F out already.


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