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MissConstrue
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24 Dec 2008, 6:46 pm

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The thing that gets me about this forum, aside from the immaturity and sexism, is that people keep coming up with reasons as to why we're "unqualified" to have relationships... a fundamental aspect of human existence.

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24 Dec 2008, 6:46 pm

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...Ok, something was really wrong with the site for a minute - couldn't type, couldn't post, wanted to respond to this but couldn't.

I think the problem your running into is this - you can't walk above the fray by any other means than ignoring it. The second you criticize and speak down, whether its earned or not, that opens two way criticism. You have to kind of expect it, otherwise its like thinking you'll have your cake and eat it too. When you launch criticism of the general thought process here, you also have to deal with everyone's interpretation of your thoughts and feelings being lobbed right back at you.

I've had similar thoughts at times but, just like in the world of politics, where everyone has a different take even on fundamental reality, its almost a zero sum game and a pained waste of effort most of the time.

It does seem like a waste of time. And even if you try to put "Mature" or "Theoretical-academic" or "Hypothetical" or some other tag on your thread, it doesn't mean anything to someone who appoints themselves appropriate to the level of your discussion.

Well, I can't be a part of this attempt to list people's problems and rate them... there is no way for me to answer that attack appropriately.

It is very political in some ways, when you accuse a site of having a narrow view. It's a provocative thing to do. Bound to bring defenders out, I suppose, whatever their agenda in doing so.

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24 Dec 2008, 6:49 pm

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24 Dec 2008, 6:52 pm

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ephemerella wrote:

LePetitPrince wrote:

It sounds that you are scared ...from what you are afraid of? You are afraid that me and Zane had exposed you? Can't you take the responsibility of what you wrote? and now you want to delete all of it?

tsk tsk ...doesn't even sound too mature to me.

I have a problem with stalkers and bullies and your behavior has become inappropriate.

Why are you engaging in this trolling behavior? Why are you pretending to be female and falsely advertising to be "Feminist" when you are a male from the Middle East? Why are you engaging in this lurid attacking behavior, after I complained of sexism? Does the Internet give you an opportunity to log onto Western boards and harass and stalk feminist posters?

Can you explain [url=http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp1941659.html&highlight=#1941659
]this previous post, involving you, please?[/b]

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LePetitPrince, you told me in a PM you're a male. why is it that in your profile it's says "female"?

Why that does matter to you? Anyways, it's explained in the same PM.

What are you doing and why are you attacking feminist posters?

Tsk tsk, Stalker? Troll? bully? those are dangerous accusations , you need to show evidences and proofs about those.

Btw, ttqs84 is the one who sent me a PM first, the PM that I was talking about is a reply to her original PM.

She is the one who initiated the PM conversation with me and there's no stalking about the whole matter.

As about why my profile says 'female":

lotusblossom wrote:

LePetitPrince wrote:

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Thanks for answering my question, btw. I'm curious about the story behind the profile gender, to be honest.

I was been accused here by couple of girls that I am sexist so I changed my profile's gender to female to prove that I feel equal to a female and not ashamed to show that.

Lovely one, I happily withdrew my sexism accusation.

anyway, your boss sucks, I dont know what you could do to resolve the situation. I think the worst thing is that they were patronising you by asking you to interview people to improve your social skills.

Dont forget, there is nothing wrong with you, other peoples reactions are a reflection of their issues not yours!

So you are a male posing as a female because, before you changed your profile to say that you were female, you were accused by posters on this site of being sexist. Then after that you still have run-ins where people accuse you of sexism (although probably less now that you have listed "female" as your gender and put "Feminist activist" in your rating).

That is a pretty twisted history of sexism accusations and impostering as a feminist and female to avoid them.

What exactly is your game?

I suppose you don't see anything gender harassing in your history or behavior, do you?

Is this your "special interest"? Stalking and provoking female/feminist posters while posing as a female?

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24 Dec 2008, 6:52 pm

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Wow, I am actually impressed LPP. Well done

I am assuming this is the reply in question therfore based on this assumption I will ask the OP :

What is wrong and or offensive about this post?

-Zane

Probably because I described her own thread as stupid so she was offended just because of that. Anyways, I edited the comment and apology to ephemerella.

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24 Dec 2008, 6:55 pm

ephemerella wrote:

LePetitPrince wrote:

ephemerella wrote:

LePetitPrince wrote:

ttqs84 wrote:

LePetitPrince, you told me in a PM you're a male. why is it that in your profile it's says "female"?

Why that does matter to you? Anyways, it's explained in the same PM.

What are you doing and why are you attacking feminist posters?

lotusblossom wrote:

LePetitPrince wrote:

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Thanks for answering my question, btw. I'm curious about the story behind the profile gender, to be honest.

I was been accused here by couple of girls that I am sexist so I changed my profile's gender to female to prove that I feel equal to a female and not ashamed to show that.

Please , show me one sexist or gender-harassing comment I made in that thread and in the other thread that you linked it to us.

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24 Dec 2008, 6:55 pm

Zane wrote:

What is wrong and or offensive about this post?

-Zane

it's a subjective attempt at presenting experiences and issues as if they can be objectified.

Just because F1-Racer A's drivingstyle B causes a preference for Tire C, doesn't mean that F1-Driver X's drivingstyle Y is best used to use driver A's Tire C, just because they're both F1 drivers.

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24 Dec 2008, 6:55 pm

Zane wrote:

Wow, I am actually impressed LPP. Well done

I am assuming this is the reply in question therfore based on this assumption I will ask the OP :

What is wrong and or offensive about this post?

I think that it's offensive to list people's questions and problems and rate them for maturity/I.Q. and use throw them around in arguments. I also think it gets me into an argument with the person doing the rating, in this case a young male, about his immaturity and relatively low I.Q. in doing the rating. It forces me to argue that he's immature and unintelligent, which can be construed as a personal attack on him.

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24 Dec 2008, 6:57 pm

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24 Dec 2008, 6:57 pm

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Please , show me one sexist or gender-harassing comment I made in that thread and in the other thread that you linked it to us.

I don't know why you have been so frequently accused of sexism that you have changed your profile to pose as female and listed "Feminist" on your rating, to avoid further charges of sexism. I don't know, obviously, what made people accuse you of sexism.

Perhaps you can explain what misunderstandings or mistakes led you these accusations, so that, according to you, you had to pose as female here?

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24 Dec 2008, 7:01 pm

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24 Dec 2008, 7:01 pm

Zane wrote:

sanndr wrote:

Zane wrote:

ephemerella wrote:

Zane wrote:

I have no problem with criticism but when someone appoints themselves to be thought police, because they can't stand my view, that's a little different than my not liking their posts. When I'm attacked by defenders-of-the-young-male-AS-republic, that goes beyond simple constructive contribution and becomes lame dim-bulb aggression.

Well, maybe you can interpret my post as a desire to get my own needs met without having to constantly be told how I'm offending the virgins or stepping on male feelings or generalizing NT traits or other attacks, that seem to exceed the scope of simple criticism and go into trolling behavior.

Again with the thought police... Gah ... please do me a huge favor and explain what you mean because in my head right now you seem awefully close to "thought policing" yourself ... and nobody likes a hippocrite ... well except for themselves, I suppose :lol:

Could you then perhaps give a constructive criticism, instead of failing at trying to ellicit an angry response or riling someone up?

You could have argued why her position is wrong. Instead you're just doing a classical and uncreative "No you!" counter without any substance. Your reply is one string of chained presumptions, as the startingpoint is wrong. You focused on a phrase in the post, even pulled it out of context to support a reply that tries to distort the context of the actual discussion.

You seem to behave according to the role/stereotype that Ephemeralla had in her mind when making her post. By argueing in your current manner you are doing nothing but reinforcing a believe. An argument, no matter how profound, is useless when presented incorrectly. If you read her posts correctly you could have deduced that tactic by now.

(The Pepsi One-calorie advertising should be a great example of that).

Persoanlly I have always tried to stay away from advertising and corporate consumerism tactics...but on a mich lighter note, I just have a pet peeve with people using Orwellian (sp?) terms such as thought police, and double speak... much prefer people using terms like Spin ... and yes I know I am thought policing in this comment ... least, I think I am ... h\gah I don't know, I just prefer when people use terms everyone can understand... and yes I understand the bigger words, just do not enjoy them and find them to be very elitist.

Just my opinion... take it for the grain of salt it is. A few educated words in the sea of many.

Oh and not sure if this has anything to do with your point at all, especailly since I did not mean my comment to be seen as an argument, just a question ... the question being :

What is the OP's definition of "Thought policing"

-Zane

<sigh> Again, Zane, I have to say that I don't want to get drawn into the level of argument you and LPP are trying to force on me because it involves so many potential personal insults. You are just proving my point that it is impossible to have a coherent debate on some issues across certain ability incompatibilities, without being either (1) a complete waste of my time or (2) my personally insulting you.

I was ignoring your post: "Again with the thought police... Gah ... please do me a huge favor and explain what you mean because in my head right now you seem awefully close to "thought policing" yourself ... and nobody likes a hippocrite ... well except for themselves, I suppose " because it was completely incoherent to me. I'm pretty good and yet I find no possible coherent thought in there.

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24 Dec 2008, 7:03 pm

Zane wrote:

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You should be able to understand that from a previous post if you read at a high school level.

This could be easily misunderstood as a personal attack, especially from some one with AS that is of higher intelligence... and LPP fits that mold, even if he doesn't always have the best way of showing it :roll:

No, not really. I'm trying to figure out right now if you and LPP are acting so incoherent and unintelligent on purpose, as if you are trying to bait me into a personal insult.

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24 Dec 2008, 7:08 pm

ephemerella wrote:

LePetitPrince wrote:

Please , show me one sexist or gender-harassing comment I made in that thread and in the other thread that you linked it to us.

I usually have a pure evolutionary views on relationships and sometimes they sound sexist and Politically incorrect , sometimes I word them incorrectly. Besides, I had my own frustrations due to a bad experience and said irrational and stereotypical stuff so I had to take responsibility of things I said. That's why I vowed to change my profile's gender , my gender change is just metaphorical and it means "I feel equal to female".

I was only accused by 2 members this year , by 2 members that I respect and adore.

I am a very imperfect human, I am not a flawless perfect being like you.

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24 Dec 2008, 7:10 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

I'll put it this way, your reputation here no doubt is still in fair enough standing but you have to realize that its an exercise in patience and temperence when dealing with these sorts of things.

Personally I'm looking forward to reading some of the topics you want to post, I'm hoping you don't jet out of here on a forum topic that went sideways.

Thank you.

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24 Dec 2008, 7:14 pm

You could try www.PretentiousAspie.com :silent:

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