I don't want to date poor people
The_Face_of_Boo
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if you pursue a relationship with this person,
all the time you spend with them will have to be at home.
If you want to go see a movie, you have to pay.
If you want to go out for a meal, you have to pay.
Theatre? You.
Ball game? You.
Money for gas? You.
How about that? Welcome to a guy's dating world
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They nag when they have to pay
They nag when they have to drive ( if he doesn't have a car)
You serious? Do you date peope stuck in the 50s?
No, but just check plentyoffish debates for example. For many women, dating a car-less guy is big no-no , let alone dating a poor guy (who's most likely has no car too).
and your avatar is disgusting.
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Well the United Kingdom is following a similar path to the United States, the UK is becoming similar to the US, it is a very westernized country and shares a similar identity to the United States from a cultural perspective.
Most of Europe consists of Westernized countries. A possible exception I can think of is Turkey.
I would argue that the UK does not have a similar identity to America. Or at least, not more than it has in common with Brussels, Germany and the rest of mainland Europe. It just happens to share a language.
World Health Organisation article: http://www.euro.who.int/en/what-we-do/h ... overweight
Still don't see any evidence that '95%' of young women are thin, regardless of what your definition of Europe is.
maybe he's a lovely guy and you're rejecting him because of how he looks!
shame.
At least he has a nice rack...
His moobs put mine to shame
I would strongly support that argument too. Beyond speaking the language you would find quite differing values in the UK more in line with a european outlook than an americain influenced perspective.
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if you pursue a relationship with this person,
all the time you spend with them will have to be at home.
If you want to go see a movie, you have to pay.
If you want to go out for a meal, you have to pay.
Theatre? You.
Ball game? You.
Money for gas? You.
How about that? Welcome to a guy's dating world
+1
They nag when they have to pay
They nag when they have to drive ( if he doesn't have a car)
You serious? Do you date peope stuck in the 50s?
Seriously. I'm thinking back to when I was dating my husband and we walked to dates, drove ourselves to dates, he drove, I drove... the only thing that didn't happen was that we didn't drive each other's cars. That came after we moved in together. It was really such a non-issue. If we lived in an area that didn't require a car (say he had an apartment in the downtown area we both worked in so he was entirely centrally located to both our jobs), I really don't think I would've cared that I had to pick him up to go out of the area. It makes sense not to have a car in places where one isn't necessary.
Nowadays, I drive a lot. This isn't because I'm a woman proving my equality in a male dominated society that preconditions us to think men should be driving. It's because I don't mind driving and he would rather not. The only time he'd insist on driving is when we're in the truck... and that is a flash to cowboy manly man dominant thinking... and I don't really care. I'm happy to be the chick who sits in the middle of the truck, then. Even then I'm thinking of all the times that I've driven the truck with him in the passenger seat. It's so much fun to drive the truck by myself. But mostly, we take the minivan places because we have a gabillion kids, which means I'm driving.
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Still don't see any evidence that '95%' of young women are thin, regardless of what your definition of Europe is.
I was generally referring to women from countries such as France, Switzerland, Norway, Italy and Austria, I must admit I do live in the UK and there are alot of unhealthy fat people here. As i was saying, Western society has become very convienent and quick and that's why the number of obesity has risen. Obesity rates in the United States are among the highest in the world with as of 2007 74.1 % being overweight or obese, that's considerably higher than the US statistics, I do believe it would probably depend on what country you go to, the UK however is probably the most obese nation in Europe so it's similar to the US in that sense. For instance, the French obesity rate is 9% compared to the UK which is 23%, considerably higher.
In a marriage and family sense, Britain also has the highest divorce rate in Europe, the largest proportion of lone parents in Europe and the highest percentage of women working outside the home so we are following America in some sense.
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if you pursue a relationship with this person,
all the time you spend with them will have to be at home.
If you want to go see a movie, you have to pay.
If you want to go out for a meal, you have to pay.
Theatre? You.
Ball game? You.
Money for gas? You.
How about that? Welcome to a guy's dating world
+1
They nag when they have to pay
They nag when they have to drive ( if he doesn't have a car)
You serious? Do you date peope stuck in the 50s?
Seriously. I'm thinking back to when I was dating my husband and we walked to dates, drove ourselves to dates, he drove, I drove... the only thing that didn't happen was that we didn't drive each other's cars. That came after we moved in together. It was really such a non-issue. If we lived in an area that didn't require a car (say he had an apartment in the downtown area we both worked in so he was entirely centrally located to both our jobs), I really don't think I would've cared that I had to pick him up to go out of the area. It makes sense not to have a car in places where one isn't necessary.
Nowadays, I drive a lot. This isn't because I'm a woman proving my equality in a male dominated society that preconditions us to think men should be driving. It's because I don't mind driving and he would rather not. The only time he'd insist on driving is when we're in the truck... and that is a flash to cowboy manly man dominant thinking... and I don't really care. I'm happy to be the chick who sits in the middle of the truck, then. Even then I'm thinking of all the times that I've driven the truck with him in the passenger seat. It's so much fun to drive the truck by myself. But mostly, we take the minivan places because we have a gabillion kids, which means I'm driving.
Of course, I wasn't referring to you or to hale_bopp or to anyone specifically.
Of course you weren't. But you were referring to women in general, which is what hale_bopp was disputing. I just get specific to demonstrate that it isn't a viable claim to make against women.
doh i hit edit rather than reply.. pasting original post again.
Really now, if you know your date is guy # 1 , who owns his own vehicle (im not saying a mercedes..just that he has his own set of wheels) and who is gentleman who pays for the date you are far, far more likely to keep going out with him.
Than with say, guy #2 who takes the bus and who splits the check with you at the restaurant.
We're not stuck in the 50's... in a way this behavior is more a result of what works to gain the affection of a girl than it is about being chivalrous or chauvinistic.
Its a simple fact: it is highly unlikely you will keep dating guy #2 and keep dating guy #1 if both guys are equally appealing physically/emotionally to you.
Why? Because women are instinctively hardwired to try and find a capable provider and men are hardwired to make a go at any girl that may be willing to mate. This is just instinct. It doesn't dictate our choices but it does play a strong part subconsciously in the decision making process.
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Than with say, guy #2 who takes the bus and who splits the check with you at the restaurant.
Not enough information.
Answer these questions:
1. Who is more attractive?
2. Whose ideals, philosophies, and morals best match my own?
3. Who challenges me intellectually?
4. Who's the better kisser?
Because driving himself around aint all there is to dating somebody. There's lots of reasons why Guy #2 and his bus pass would be a better match for a self-respecting gal.
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