Do women make lots of effort to attract men?

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08 Jul 2013, 3:46 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Not everything is superficially that obvious.

For example this is a guy I know in gym:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 8054_n.jpg

He looks having a healthy-wise toned muscled body, doesn't look the steroid frog-like overmuscled type and looks like he never takes nasty stuff but that's NOT true.

What he takes: muscleTec (forbidden in your the US ), injections of testosterone and GH (hell knows how many times more than normal), fat burning stuff and hell knows what else.

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I am talking about the perfect body, men don't have to put in some degree of effort but a *lot* of effort, that what you're denying.

I have a pic in the body's adult thread. http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf233577-0-120.html

You judge.

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but it seems you fail to meet us halfway

But the women arguing here are failing to meet me halfway too, they're saying that women have it much harder - which is not true in my opinion.

Your friend's body DOES look like he takes those nasty stuff actually. I would think it would be very hard to achieve that kind of physique naturally. (I wouldn't consider fat burner natural either.)

You were saying that women don't need a perfect body to attract men, and I think we women were saying men don't need a ripped six-pack steroid body to attract women either.
You are the one who kept talking about a perfect men's body(you men think men should have) and how hard it is to achieve it. I'm going say it again;
IT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR A MAN TO HAVE THAT KIND OF BODY TO ATTRACT MAJORITY OF WOMEN.

And isn't it kind of pointless to argue which gender has it harder to achieve a perfect body because neither side needs it to attract each other.

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08 Jul 2013, 3:54 pm

TGH wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Sadly I cannot look at the adult body thread because I am 16.
I don't want to get in between you and Schneekugel, but I do have right to an opinion. I can't speak for Schneekugel, but when it comes to the point where you're throwing around radical and blatantly incorrect statements such as "Kazuki takes steroids" and referring to the time and effort that people put into your posts then you can expect things are going to go down that road. Please be respectful if you expect the same, and I am sorry for calling you a troll if that offended you.

No, me and others here are only saying that women have to go through quite a lot for their bodies, and it's not as easy for us to get slim as it is for men's. I don't recall saying that women have it much harder. You're generalising.
Also keep in mind that most men aren't pushed for the perfect body. Many women are happy with less than that. Yes, their 'perfect' celeb bodies are fun to ogle, but realistically they don't expect most men push for this. 85% of people who consume weight loss products are females*, showing that, in general, men aren't as concerned. That is discounting going to the gym and all, but going to a gym is healthy, whereas many people who consume weight loss products aren't concerned too much about their health.

*( http://abcnews.go.com/Health/100-millio ... dsVvfnVA8o )

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You are also being completely and utterly insensitive by saying "yet all you hear about is women vomitting and dieting hard". Women hurting their own bodies and killing themselves to look good is a big problem, and until you begin to understand that and stop being entirely self-serving then it's no use having a conversation with you.

I am not belittling their efforts, but a lot men hurting their own bodies too but no one talks about it, do you understand my point now? Men's image struggles don't get much media/research coverage.

As for the weight loss products, I am sure more than 80% of GH/Testosterone injections/steroids consumers are men too, It's both ways on that matters, so what's your point again?

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Also keep in mind that most men aren't pushed for the perfect body.

You're wrong on that, that what you're thinking because you have no idea what men go through, and the younger generations are becoming more equally harsh on both genders.

Most people end up accepting less than perfect from a partner.

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08 Jul 2013, 3:57 pm

As for Kazuki that you and Schneekugel who are both believing he's being healthy.

Read this thread:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5238410.html

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November 2012-February 2013, - I decided I needed a quick boost, I was 200lbs when I decided to take illegal steroids, I started injecting 500mg of testosterone for 4 weeks before boosting it to 900mg of test before taking extremely high dosages of up to a 1300mg a week of equipose, trenobolone and testosterone. My steroid duration in total has been for 3 months and in that time I have experienced the positives and negatives of steroid use

^^ This is LOAD of unhealthy s**t! He literally risked his life.

and look at this photo comparison, the upper is Kazuki's pic, the bottom is from the other thread:

Boom!! ! Surprise!!

Very similar, weird, eh? :lol:

So tell me now TGH and Schneekugel, do you still believe that Kazuki has a nice body because he's following a healthy path?

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Schneekugel: Actually, what Kazuki shows me is for me the absolute optimum a normal person gets, by staying healthy.

yea right. Super accurate!

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08 Jul 2013, 4:25 pm

I don't need to attract any man with or without a six pack, chances are they speak to the woman from a glance and as chemistry adds up,.. things begin a slow arduous torture...

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08 Jul 2013, 4:37 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

As for Kazuki that you and Schneekugel who are both believing he's being healthy.

Read this thread:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5238410.html

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^^ This is LOAD of unhealthy sh**! He literally risked his life.

and look at this photo comparison, the upper is Kazuki's pic, the bottom is from the other thread:

Boom!! ! Surprise!!

Very similar, weird, eh? :lol:

So tell me now TGH and Schneekugel, do you still believe that Kazuki has a nice body because he's following a healthy path?

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Schneekugel: Actually, what Kazuki shows me is for me the absolute optimum a normal person gets, by staying healthy.

yea right. Super accurate!

Boo that is excellent detective work.

Like WTF Kazuki or wolfhart or what ever? Why lie...?

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08 Jul 2013, 4:39 pm

I was faster, Boo.

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08 Jul 2013, 4:41 pm

Yuzu wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

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but it seems you fail to meet us halfway

But the women arguing here are failing to meet me halfway too, they're saying that women have it much harder - which is not true in my opinion.

Yes, but most women fall for it and think it's a natural body- yet most men (and few ladies like you) can spot an unnatural male physique.

Like many men think fake boobs are real for example, or failing to spot loads of make up on a woman and saying she's all natural- yet women can detect them much more effectively.

This is what creates an indirect pressure on both genders: when a teen girl for example sees all guys drooling over plastic models and ignoring regular girls, she might develop a subconscious complex of wanting to achieve a perfect body, hence ending up doing voluntary vomiting and taking unhealthy diet drugs.

It happens the same for guys: When a young guy witnesses ladies like TGH and Schneekugel fancy and talk highly of an unnatural male physique while thinking it's the optimum of healthy body, the young guy might goes to the nasty stuff road to get such physique.

Yet the latter case isn't much discussed or covered in media, this is exactly what I was "whining" about.

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You were saying that women don't need a perfect body to attract men,

True.

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and I think we women were saying men don't need a ripped six-pack steroid body to attract women either.

I might missed that, I am gonna review the earlier posts.

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You are the one who kept talking about a perfect men's body(you men think men should have) and how hard it is to achieve it. I'm going say it again;

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IT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR A MAN TO HAVE THAT KIND OF BODY TO ATTRACT MAJORITY OF WOMEN.

Then why the majority of women refer to this specific body type every time they're asked what they find sexy? Hm? This is the problem.

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And isn't it kind of pointless to argue which gender has it harder to achieve a perfect body because neither side needs it to attract each other

Hmm, you're right about that, but I am still insisting that they don't have it easier than women, equally hard in different way at the very least.

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08 Jul 2013, 6:59 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

As for Kazuki that you and Schneekugel who are both believing he's being healthy.

Read this thread:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5238410.html

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^^ This is LOAD of unhealthy sh**! He literally risked his life.

and look at this photo comparison, the upper is Kazuki's pic, the bottom is from the other thread:

Boom!! ! Surprise!!

Very similar, weird, eh? :lol:

So tell me now TGH and Schneekugel, do you still believe that Kazuki has a nice body because he's following a healthy path?

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Schneekugel: Actually, what Kazuki shows me is for me the absolute optimum a normal person gets, by staying healthy.

yea right. Super accurate!

*Cough*

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08 Jul 2013, 7:26 pm

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I was faster, Boo.

You deserve a medal :flower:

MXH you shouldn't reveal someones identity, I suggest you take the post down.

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08 Jul 2013, 7:32 pm

MR_BOGAN wrote:

Uprising wrote:

I was faster, Boo.

You deserve a medal :flower:

MXH you shouldn't reveal someones identity, I suggest you take the post down.

I'm not revealing anything. He posted it in his signature in his banned profile. In fact i posted it as proof of what boo was saying.

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08 Jul 2013, 7:38 pm

MXH wrote:

MR_BOGAN wrote:

Uprising wrote:

I was faster, Boo.

You deserve a medal :flower:

MXH you shouldn't reveal someones identity, I suggest you take the post down.

I'm not revealing anything. He posted it in his signature in his banned profile. In fact i posted it as proof of what boo was saying.

Oh that's ok then. :lol:

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08 Jul 2013, 10:20 pm

I don't think it's necessary to cause commotion, my behaviour was inappropriate and the way I was living my life was wrong, i'm not denying that but I have made a strong and concious effort to change that.

I would rather stay on topic so to conclude with my earlier point, I do believe it's more difficult for women, look at weight lots programs like insanity, men and women both follow the same program and diet but men become more muscular and defined as the final result. It is proven that men produce more testosterone.

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08 Jul 2013, 10:31 pm

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They probably do cardio apart from the 3 days at the gym and have a strict diet as well. Gaining muscle for me is child's play (it took 18 months to get 18.5" biceps) because of my genetic; getting down to the 8% required body fat levels for six pack abs is not.

I know plenty of girls who do not workout at all, but still look great. They just don't eat anymore than they need and thus their physiques match that of Kristen Stewart, Kate Hudson or most other Hollywood women.

No. The three I was thinking of in particular refuse to do cardio. They say it's a waste of time. I'm inclined to agree based on other peoples results compared to theirs.
It's not "strict". Mostly do not eat processed crap and that's about it. Mine is stricter than just that. None of them are in th 6%-8% range though, probably just above it.

Sorry but that is gross and just yuck :eew:

I do not consider Kristen Stewarts or Kate Hudsons a body I would want. Screw that crap.
Stick skinny is not attractive to me at all, even girls should have some amount of muscle.

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09 Jul 2013, 12:11 am

Kjas wrote:

Kurgan wrote:

I do not consider Kristen Stewarts or Kate Hudsons a body I would want. Screw that crap.
Stick skinny is not attractive to me at all, even girls should have some amount of muscle.

Kjas is right, short intense with weights or even circuit training with bodyweight or weights is more effective in comparison to low intensity cardio like long distance running.

Compare the body of a sprinter to a marathon runner.

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09 Jul 2013, 12:19 am

Kjas wrote:

Kurgan wrote:

I do not consider Kristen Stewarts or Kate Hudsons a body I would want. Screw that crap.
Stick skinny is not attractive to me at all, even girls should have some amount of muscle.

What exercise you do depends solely on what your goals are.

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09 Jul 2013, 1:09 am

i i recall ryan hasnt used roids in 6 months.

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