Toxic femininity

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^^ time for some unwanted phone calls from 1-800 numbers

Hmm, I have realized that I should put an unattractive pic for the test to be meaningful.

Anyway, I am talking with the first guy, such a handsome nice guy, really .

In brief: I told him I am a rich woman (31) seeking for a non-rich husband, he asked me why - he was generally suspicious and surprised.

he hinted if I was fake or not.

Then he was like "I don't care if you are rich or not"

when I asked for a contact, he asked me to give mine first (FB) but then I claimed my account is set to private and won't find me, so he give me his account.

I told him I wanna go to his country, he told me he won't mind to take me in a tour - then i suggested to buy him a Lambo diablo for the tour

Luckily, I found a second pic of this internet girl when he got too suspicious lol.

So I am not sure what to qualify him? Did he sound a gold digger guy? He was taking him long moments to reply and he was uncertain.

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too tired to go on, maybe later.

its not considered rude here, its quite normal and acceptable for women to ask and determine a man worth as a real man or not based on his income.
I'd say at least 80% of them do this. should just print a tshirt that says "have to make at least this _____ to date this"
I die in a few years and they wont be bothered by my horrible existence. only enough room on this planet for women and well off men it seems.
though those women should really start accepting polygamy, because that means like 10 women per guy. though suppose probably more, because as the guy has to support more women his income needs to go higher, so they should go after the billions at about 200 women per billionaire. course the more realistic fact is the well off guy marries one woman and the other 9 just stay single for life complaining about how there's no real men left.
suppose atleast I'll die with that knowledge


a woman who marries for love wouldn't care nor ask a guy how much he makes.

as for boo, am I the only one who thinks they could have caught on to you lying and playing a game so then played along to mess with you back. I knew a few women who would do this.

It's interesting how it's ok to love someone for their personality or physical characteristics, but not for their income. The latter you can work on. The former you are born with. Granted, most really wealthy people are born wealthy.

So women value men solely for their money?
Well I'm starting to think there may be a reason for this.
It is becoming apparent that none of the men who have been in my life have had much else to offer.
As I write, my companion of 9 years lies drunk on my wicker loveseat. He called me a c**t twice because I wouldn't have sex, then passed out.
He wasn't much help with my dog dilemma.

And frankly I find myself doubting humanity. I'll save it for the Haven.

Hi androbot, I'm sorry things have been so rough for you...I don't think anyone who posted here thinks that ALL women are golddiggers....but that a high percentage of them are.

I'm not one of them either, I married without ceremony, didn't even have a wedding gown, couldn't care less about it or about the honey moon. we were poor as church mice when we got married, but happier than ever before or after.

I don't really believe I've ever encountered "gold diggers" of any sort in my own experience. I live in a mid-sized, breakneck paced town full of students and nerds, among others, where basically everyone is coerced into digging gold of their own just to survive here. Don't get me wrong, I see greedy people all over the place, there just isn't any particular correlation with gender.

It has some outdated content, but most of is still largely applicable.
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well I'd never done that. <o.o>
but I don't get drunk
certainly would never call a lady that word. if didnt want sex i'd just feel bad and try to cuddle for bit or go hide in a corner somewhere.

hope the dog dilemma gets worked out :S

though as a guy I have nothing to offer but support, love, loyalty, compassion, cuddles, hugs, kisses, companionship.
so nothing really

yeah just most. wish I could have found a woman like you. though I'd take her to the coast for honeymoon. thats what my brother did with his wife. its quite relaxing and beautiful.

aw thanks! I don't care for such things but I'm very far from perfect. would probably rub you the wrong way some other way.

but yeah, I heard honeymoons can be beautiful.

oh heyyyy, hugs! yes definitely not all men are like that. too bad she doesn't have someone like you.

I should admit also my view on women, from my limited dating experience yet extensive interaction during the years, had become more....'wary', kinda more cynical and less trusting generally.

Note that I grew in a two working parents family, which was kinda rare in their times, and mother was equal to dad and even leader in certain ways. For instance, mom is more educated, and for years she earned more. So when I was much younger, I had absolutely no idea about this hypergamy tendency in women and the whole gender roles stuff back then.
It came shock after shock when I started to have interest in dating, in the way how the majority of women think and evaluate men.
This is what I've learned:
- Most women, are generally, hypergamous (the main source of 'female toxicity' mentioned in this thread); women in general often want men who is *above them* in many ways:

Physically: Most prefer a man taller than them, and stronger than them - and would justify this as just an attraction matter ("oh, I can't help it/ oh, I feel more feminine, a short guy makes me feel like dating my little brother" - it's weird how men don't feel dating a shorter woman as dating the little sister), but it's actually a part of hypergamy - whether it is by nature or nurture, doesn't matter. I find out that women often tend to not even like a man of equal height or equal physique. The harshest and meanest mockery comments I got on my short height were....from short girls as short as me or slightly shorter, never from taller girls, even tho the taller would never date me.

Income/status: How many female CEOs and female senior manager marry male cashiers or secretaries? it's so unheard of and rare. A lot of women even state that they would feel weird if they marry a man who earns less than themselves. The "more" is always the most common tendency in everything, including income.

and there's more to it: ie. I want a man who is taller than me, I want a man who earns more than me, I want a man older than me, I want a man smarter than me, more educated than me, more social than me, more overall interesting than me....etc. - Notice the trend? It's always I want more than me, I want higher, I want better...than me. Height, income, age, education, IQ, hobbies, connections, social class, life experience.....and yes, even sexual experience...etc

And it became so norm that it became so convention to most women to say it out loud in social settings without any remorse or second t thought, it so common to hear a woman saying for example "I rejected this guy because he works as X" X is always a profession perceived lower than her profession. I knew plenty female friends who worked in entry jobs like secretaries, data entry workers, junior salespersons, who kept rejecting guys working in equal entry jobs, like junior police, or security guys or cashiers and they made it very clear to me why they rejected them (literally they say "I rejected him because he works as --") without any remorse , dare to tell them that's shallow. Also when they talk about some girl's new boyfriend, the first thing they mention about him is *always* his work, (ie. "X got a new boyfriend, he's engineer working in dubai!! !" (with a pitchy tone on 'he's engineer working in dubai).

- The girls I knew who work in higher and senior positions aren't generally much better in that regard, even tho they tend to show way less exaggerated reaction to some guy's highly earning position, they don't also show any remorse of saying to want a 'better' (in everything I said above) guy than themselves

- let a man says he rejected a nice and nice-looking woman for the same exact reason and everyone would look weirdly at him and would most women will call him idiot, mean and bigot - and would tell him he just missed up a great opportunity.

Really?

Booyakasha, thanks. Sometimes things just suck.

Sly, hugs... one thing I learned in the course I took is that if things aren't working, you need to try something new. I kicked fwb out. I wouldn't have done that before.