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Not true I’ve Ben told for example. Saying most women want a man with his lif together is misogynistic.
Some users even dsy it’s misogynistic to say one woman wants that.
So as far as I can till misogyny is just anything that could be taken negative about women.
Even though quite a few women in this site wouldn’t even think most women wanting thst is bad as they want that.
I’ve be threatened with bans before for it, so have other men who express their experiences.
And now it seems Alex wants negativity banned, which is so broad, who knows what thst will entail.
Wp shouldn’t be happy washed. It should be what it is naturally, sad lonely people shouldn’t be suppressed. I dont know what I’ll do but I could see such other men falling exiled from wp falling in with the incel extremists as who else will tske single lonely men no one else will. I, i right in that’s how those extremists gain members?
By saying well accept you, we like you, it’s ok come here?
I’m worried about the non extremists this broad rule will impact.
It’s like a post 9/11 reaction to Muslims. And the few anti single men memebers here are glad to hop on the train to get such men removed.
Review wp past and you’re find few attempts to get single men banned from wp.
So wp would only be for women and men in relationships. Mind you plenty of men in relationships are misogynistic and absuvie, so seems like a failure of a plan.
So when I see talk about cleansing wp of the negativity of single lonely men it scares me. Surely boob remembers the last attempt.
They used women’s section to try to rally Alex and mods to make such changes. End result was most of them got banned I think.

Banned? More like vaporized by the Ministry of Truth for engaging in crimethink. That's doubleplusungood. It's very scary how WP is becoming like "1984".

I'm way ahead of you. I pretty much stopped using this site, except for specifically AS-related discussions. It's been heading down the toilet since 2010. Between the god-awful new design, Captcha, Cloudflare, server crashes, constant spam threads, biased mods, and preachy regulars, WrongPlanet has become WorthlessPlanet. It's a shadow of its former self, a pitiful remnant of its glory days in mid 2000's. This ban will be its final nail in the coffin. I will be playing my violin while this proverbial Rome burns to the ground.

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This just seems really paranoid to me, entertaining the idea that WP would ban all single men. It's ridiculous and irrational to believe that. The forum would collapse if all single men were banned, it would kill the site for such a large group to get booted. Of course no one is going to do that. If the end result of this attempt you're talking about before was the troublemakers getting banned and not single men, then why are you so concerned? No one is banning single men, that's silly.

And no one is saying it's against the rules to express negativity, that is also a ridiculous exaggeration. If you can't tell the difference between the regular frustrations of socially-challenged aspies and hatred against women being expressed and where the line is between those things, I don't know how to help you with that. Maybe the moderators can explain to you how they decide what counts as sexism/misogyny when a comment is reported, and maybe you could ask Alex about the incel issue because ultimately it's up to him, it's his site and he makes the rules. Perhaps you should ask them and not me because I'm not the one making these choices, I'm not a moderator.

I imagine you’re target number one .

I’m proby 5-10

It’s sad that wp is going pc and mainstream. Same as it’s sad OkCupid went pc and mainstream.

The guy openly admitted to joining here just to troll us and "drop blackpills" on us, how is him getting banned for that getting "vaporized for crimethink" or however you put it? What's with all the emotional hyperbole on this topic?

Trolling is very explicitly against the rules of this forum. If you admit that you joined just to troll, you're going to get banned by the moderators for breaking the rules. If you don't want to get banned, don't act like a child and flagrantly break the rules. It's quite simple to avoid.

I get it. But it's only a matter of time until "trolling" accusations will be used as a pretext for getting rid of undesired members, who don't comply with WP's new ideology. It's like speeding tickets being used to boost revenue in the guise of "safety". I'm pretty sure I'll get 86'ed one of these days, on some trumped-up accusation. In fact, given what I posted before, I'm kind of flattered that the owners and management of this site tolerates me as it is.

No ones against that it’s the broadness of this ban policy

Aspie1 has posted red pill and men’s rights stuff so he’d be banned under this in the future. He’s not a troll and he’s been here a long time.
All it takes is claiming something is red pill, incelnazis etc.
I’m sure the incelnazis complain about women rejecting guys for not having their life together so am I to be banned?

The patriot act had good intentions but it’s used to spy on and arrest people who aren’t terrorist and most everyone is against it now.

Oh if the rules were enforced a lot of members her would been banned.
Rules are ignored or enforced depending on your beliefs.
Quite a few prominent users here violated the rules with attacking groups and weren’t banned.

In fact id say incels is a group and incelnazis are minority of it so saying all incels are violent etc is attacking a group. Which is against the rules. Which is yet another important issue here that if we label groups as acceptable to attacks based on whatever that’s not good.
Do you think all incels not incelnazis but just involuntarily celibates are violent?
I’m technically a incel but definition which to my understanding hasn’t been changed. I’m not violent at all. I dont even kill bugs.

Id probably give my life to protect some woman or man in danger.

Like I said earlier, I stopped using this site for anything not specifically related to Asperger's. I either ask for input on NT-oriented forums I migrated to (including "those" forums), or I figure it out myself. There's one member here who advocated severely injuring or falsely arresting guys who show romantic interest in his daughter. Mods love him, because he's very goodthinkful (to borrow another "1984" term), so he was never penalized for it.

It's scary how all it takes to get someone banned is a loaded word and a pointed finger. Aspies deal with enough of that in real life. No thanks.

People are taking this way too personally. There was an open admission of users from another site deliberately trolling this site. If they come back they will be banned. We've been asked to keep a look out and let mods know if we see any new people appearing and starting to troll.

Why is that so hard to understand?

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This all reminds me of the point where money came to engineering. Lots of money. Money for start-ups, and money for employees. Before that, 40 years ago, it was a refuge for misfits and Aspies like me, who had no self esteem outside of our abilities to understand very complex scientific principles and our ability to envision advanced technical designs.

Then came the MBA's, and the charismatic social geniuses who rocketed into the positions we used to get, in management of senior technical positions. If they needed something from a nerd, they would steal it, just like the jocks did in high school. They put us in cubicles like farm animals and took what we contributed, feeding us "praise" once in awhile to manipulate us into pleasing them. Now the Aspies are being run out of places like Google, because they don't understand the "rules" of proper speech and keeping their strange ideas quiet.

Earlier, something similar happened to doctors when "efficiency" and the insurance companies came. Now they are clerks in an assembly line.

Today, some people blame Aspies for the violence and assaults that happen in our society, when it's plain to see most of the people who are locked up for such crimes consist of that group of alpha manipulators who read social cues all too well. "Gamers" somehow have become responsible for Harvey Weinstein, who has enough money to buy and sell everyone here.

It's an Aspie's lot to get kicked out of the places they took refuge in, as soon as the reporters and the money and the investors and the fame arrive for the people who can buy and steal anything they want. The rest of us will have to innovate elsewhere, in peace and silence, until it happens there, too. Before the money comes, the pretty people don't want anything to do with us. When it comes, they complain we've stolen their destiny.

this is terrifying

Why is this even in the Love and Dating forum when it has absolutely nothing to do with love or dating?

But it does have a lot to do with loathe and hating.

Yeah, incels going on about how evil all women are and love seeing girls and women being abused or even killed are such poor, lonely guys and we should all feel sorry for them. (Sarcasm) (Duh!)

I just love how fragile the male ego is, and if a woman stands up for herself at all she's an evil feminazi. Next thing you'll know women will be reading, getting ideas, and thinking... they might even believe they should be allowed to vote!

No if they’re a feminazi they a feminazi
Hurloam for example and my sister and mom stand up for themselves without feminism

This thread is against trolls in general, with special emphasis on Incel Trolls, what with the Incel variety of Internet Troll being the most aggressive at this time.

This is not to say that all Incels are trolls, only those who place blame for their involuntary celibacy solely on women, especially those who express misogyny against women, and most especially those who express violent thoughts against those women for denying them what they believe is their unalienable right to women's bodies.

On social websites, there is a particular form of Incel Trollery that involves starting multiple threads on the subject of the OP's involuntary celibacy and/or inability to get a date and/or girlfriend. A subset of this form trollery involves derailing unrelated threads with posts referencing the Incel's allegedly miserable and lonely life without a girlfriend.

By degrees, it's all the same. A case could be made that Incel Trollery is on its own "spectrum", with the seemingly incessant whining and complaining at one end, descriptions and images of violence against women at the other end, and varying degrees of both in the middle.

So, when someone posts about how women discriminate against celibate men, it's the more benign form of misogynistic trollery; when someone starts multiple threads about how they can't get a date and how badly they want to get a girlfriend, that's also trollery; and when someone submits a post claiming that all women are of one mind in certain forms of behavior, that's trollery, too. The worst kind of Incel Trollery involves "Blaming and Shaming" individual women (usually by name and/or picture), especially if violent language is used.

Not only that, but when men openly express the kinds of negative attitudes regarding women that I've seen on this website in a regular workplace, those men are more than likely to get their employment terminated.

And it would not be the result of any bigotry or prejudice against those men for being celibate; it would instead being the employers' realization that those men are complete a**holes creating a hostile work environment, and that those men they don't deserve the privilege of having a job.

Maybe that's why Incel Trollery and unemployment seem to go hand-in-hand.

That is more emotional hyperbole and an example of what is called the slippery slope fallacy.