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08 Apr 2009, 9:58 pm

no one can be forced into being nice

what I am saying is-be thankful your not on the streets addicted to crack
or in africa being shot at by militants

just because you think your so hard done by, shouldn't make it that everyone has to bend overbackwards to sympathize for you-when many of you, refuse to take the advice or do anything about it
people have limits
we're only human

and yeah i am a bit of a dick-doesn't bother me-not everyone with AS is all "nice" and crap



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08 Apr 2009, 10:00 pm

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I've said it before, I'll say it again - some aspie guys THINK too much. I don't see this kind of insecurity within the female aspie ranks. What is the deal????

I think that may be even more of a male cultural thing than it is an aspie thing. At one point late in my teens I decided to make a routine out of hugging all my (male) friends, just because I liked hugs, and they tended to not be that well-received by most. Many joked that I was coming on to my friends.

Actually, I find hugging men easier because it does nothing for me sexually. If I hug a girl I like I may start thinking naughty thoughts and get distracted and/or nervous.



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08 Apr 2009, 10:01 pm

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So being nice is not a requirement on this forum?

Okay then... you're a dick...


...wow cause that's not oxymoronic :lmao:



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08 Apr 2009, 10:16 pm

Lily_cat wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
So being nice is not a requirement on this forum?

Okay then... you're a dick...


...wow cause that's not oxymoronic :lmao:


It totally isn't... :roll:



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08 Apr 2009, 10:17 pm

Lily_cat wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
So being nice is not a requirement on this forum?

Okay then... you're a dick...


...wow cause that's not oxymoronic :lmao:


lol!



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08 Apr 2009, 10:42 pm

ToadOfSteel wrote:
Lily_cat wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
So being nice is not a requirement on this forum?

Okay then... you're a dick...


...wow cause that's not oxymoronic :lmao:


It totally isn't... :roll:


Didn't you say something in an earlier post about being nice? I was sure it was you...



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08 Apr 2009, 11:53 pm

Lily_cat wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
Lily_cat wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
So being nice is not a requirement on this forum?

Okay then... you're a dick...


...wow cause that's not oxymoronic :lmao:


It totally isn't... :roll:


Didn't you say something in an earlier post about being nice? I was sure it was you...


Yeah, and I totally use smilies when I'm being serious... :twisted:



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09 Apr 2009, 12:35 am

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I've been to the third world before (specifically Mexico just south of the border with Texas)... and even in a state of abject poverty, those people were some of the happiest people I have ever met

Oh, well perhaps we'll all become a lot happier where I live :roll: - given that we're rapidly being turned into a third-world country.


mexico isn't the third world
africa is the third world-go to africa and see how many "happy" people are there :roll:



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09 Apr 2009, 12:38 am

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yeah if i was a troll I'd probably have less then 10 000 posts :roll:

So having a post count over 10,000 gives you trolling privileges?



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09 Apr 2009, 12:42 am

Cyberman wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
yeah if i was a troll I'd probably have less then 10 000 posts :roll:

So having a post count over 10,000 gives you trolling privileges?


no-I meant was-why would I start now?
I am not trolling-I am telling him he should be thankful for what he has
seriously-people never look at the things they have
he could be starving in some hovel fearing bombing raids or something

my whole point is-"is that people take everything they have for granted-they always want more"
not all support is sympathy and coddling



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09 Apr 2009, 2:23 am

Oh no! 8O The girls are now starting to stereotype the guys as violent and bitter. Well, I guess we started it so good job on the revenge. You go girls. :thumright:

But one thing that should make you girls happy is my take on this.

1. People are stupid, especially in groups
2. Therefore the thoughts of the majority are wrong
3. So if most guys are bitter towards women
4. This proves that it is wrong for guys to be bitter toward women

Always look on the bright side, even if you have to be really cynical to do it. :P

I don't make as many serious posts as I used to. It's hard to be a voice of reason here. For those of you who continue to try to be a voice of reason and don't give up and just mock the status quo like I do, I salute you. :salut: I do think this place needs an injection of levity at times.

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you don't know what pain is-go try living in a third world country or something :roll:


And here's where the thread lost it's point. Are you saying that you know what it's like to live in a third world country? How do you know that those people wouldn't be offended by your assumption that they're unhappy?

And it elicited some classy responses :roll: (not that I can talk, but being a pot and calling the kettle black is still fun).

But now seriously folks. Why can't we all just get along. Group hug? :cheers: (Yeah, calling for a group hug is mean from someone who's on fire. I'm a colossal dick, so sue me. :twisted: )


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09 Apr 2009, 2:47 am

Aspie males think too much? Of course. Consider the aspie mind: all logic, even when dissecting emotion. Aspies like things they can figure out. The best analogy an aspie male can come up with for trying to figure out women is that they are an unusually complex machine. Since we're devoid of the intuitive empathetic and emotional "feel" for social stuff, we must decipher women by trial and error, with each possible comment or gesture being a single button or lever that, on a machine, would get a consistent and replicable result: insert 75 cents here, press A4 on the keypad, and one Snickers bar is dispensed. The typical aspie male experience - especially among the virgins on here, of which I was one until very recently - is making attempts to understand how women work and coming up empty after many tries. Until my recent breakthrough, at age 38, I was 0 for 300 or so in attempts to get laid and/or into a relationship. This kind of long-term wall of failure, for a group that tends to value and/or possess intelligence, is frustrating to a degree impossible for any woman to imagine.
I know a woman is not a candy machine. We all do, all the frustrated male aspies. With perhaps just a few exceptions, the anti-female rants on here are born of this frustration, and are not indicative of violent tendencies - remember, the aspie male's goal is still to get to know women better. I have never slagged women as a group. I think that the worst of the hostility is not directed at women overall, but at hearing the bad advice and mixed messages that women often give on here (dress nice/money's not important, be confident/be yourself [it's one or the other], etc). It's like the Snickers bar telling me "Just insert 75 cents and press A4 and I'm yours!" and I follow the instructions and it doesn't work...on that machine, or the next 299 machines that I try.
I understand if women on here are turned off by the rants, and perhaps I missed the most inflammatory examples. But again, the aspie male's goal at the end of all the anger and perplexity is still to get into a satisfying sexual and/or emotional relationship. Many of us are capable of being good partners, but it's an exceptionally trying process and that is showing up loud and clear on this forum.



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09 Apr 2009, 8:36 am

So, let me ask you this. ^

Do you meditate? Do you think aspies, by nature, can't meditate?

My point is - with all that superhuman brain power do you not also have the ability to turn it off at will and just let the universe guide you? At the very least, if you knew it scared women away to think of them as 'fembots' - could you turn it off?

And why is it that female aspies don't try to reverse-engineer guys? (Assuming WP represents a decent sample of the female aspie experience.)

In my entire life, I don't remember ever trying to figure out guys. Well, I take that back. If I set my sites on a particular guy, I'd try to figure out where he hangs out...what interests he has...where he works...what kind of car does he drive - that kind of stuff. Very individual...

Maybe its because I have brothers? I dunno - maybe its the way my mom raised me. Maybe its because aspie women have more testosterone (didn't I hear that somewhere?) and our brains are kind of wired like guys' - therefore is not really a mystery?

And anyway - when you keep telling yourself you lack empathy - don't you think after awhile you've totally convinced yourself? I wasn't dxed until recently and only now do I see where I have been quite cruel and unfeeling. But I didn't have that soundtrack running through my head my every waking moment therefore, I don't let that "rule", rule me.

PS: We are not machines. Humans are not machines. We are all completely different and as long as you think of us as machines, you'll recieve machine-like love in return. (Which doesn't exist...get it?)


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09 Apr 2009, 9:20 am

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Maybe its because aspie women have more testosterone (didn't I hear that somewhere?)

But wouldn't there be physical manifestations of extra testosterone? And I haven't seen any among most (or any) female Aspies.



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09 Apr 2009, 9:26 am

BPalmer wrote:
MmeLePen wrote:
Maybe its because aspie women have more testosterone (didn't I hear that somewhere?)

But wouldn't there be physical manifestations of extra testosterone? And I haven't seen any among most (or any) female Aspies.


No clue - maybe some egghead here will tell us. I don't have guy-ish physical characteristics other than having the classic "boy" figure. (Narrow hips). But mentally, I have many of the same interests and the sense of humor of 15 year old boy.


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09 Apr 2009, 11:25 am

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Oh no! 8O The girls are now starting to stereotype the guys as violent and bitter. Well, I guess we started it so good job on the revenge. You go girls. :thumright:

But one thing that should make you girls happy is my take on this.

1. People are stupid, especially in groups
2. Therefore the thoughts of the majority are wrong
3. So if most guys are bitter towards women
4. This proves that it is wrong for guys to be bitter toward women

Always look on the bright side, even if you have to be really cynical to do it. :P

I don't make as many serious posts as I used to. It's hard to be a voice of reason here. For those of you who continue to try to be a voice of reason and don't give up and just mock the status quo like I do, I salute you. :salut: I do think this place needs an injection of levity at times.

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you don't know what pain is-go try living in a third world country or something :roll:


And here's where the thread lost it's point. Are you saying that you know what it's like to live in a third world country? How do you know that those people wouldn't be offended by your assumption that they're unhappy?

And it elicited some classy responses :roll: (not that I can talk, but being a pot and calling the kettle black is still fun).

But now seriously folks. Why can't we all just get along. Group hug? :cheers: (Yeah, calling for a group hug is mean from someone who's on fire. I'm a colossal dick, so sue me. :twisted: )


I never said I did-but how many times these days do you see me whining about girls? and not doing anything about it.
(I admit I did when I was like 17-18, but I was stupid, I am first to admit it)