Is "You'll find love one day" BS?

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10 Jun 2010, 2:44 am

Yeah, I know what it feels like, but the thing is you've got to keep fighting. Just keep trying things, throw yourself in front of loves way, take risks, deal with and overcome rejection, until you finally get in there. The only way is to try, and believe it or not it's the same for everyone (although maybe it is more difficult for aspies so that just means we have to try harder and deal with more setbacks).


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10 Jun 2010, 4:06 am

People have always told me I would find love one day. But after about twenty more years of romantic emptiness I was getting quite bitter about all those effing cliches.

'Love is just around the corner' they kept saying. Yeah, but why was I always going left when I should have turned right?
I was more and more talking myself into someon who did not even deserve to be loved, someone who had nothing on offer. Sure, I had love to offer, but that was obviously not a valued commodity.

Until it really happened. My girl dropped into my lap like a bolt out of the blue. It was on a support forum, not a dating site. I was not there looking for anyone(except myself)

She was as far down in life as it is possible to go, almost suicidal even. But what began as words of support and encouragement turned into a most incredibly deep love almost from the very beginning.


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10 Jun 2010, 5:59 am

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Until it really happened. My girl dropped into my lap like a bolt out of the blue. It was on a support forum, not a dating site. I was not there looking for anyone(except myself)

She was as far down in life as it is possible to go, almost suicidal even. But what began as words of support and encouragement turned into a most incredibly deep love almost from the very beginning.


Is that site still around :?: I used to use some support sites a couple years ago & I liked helping people out when I can



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20 Jun 2010, 8:18 pm

I have been thinking about this very thing a lot lately. I just turned 38 which is almost 40. I have had several relationships and have been in love but nothing has lasted longer that 1 or 2 years and has never moved past the infatuation stage to planning the future or living together. In between, i have been single for many, many years. I have been deliberately giving up hope because I feel more pain having hope and being disappointed than giving up. Maybe something will happen someday but if seems unlikely. I am not physically unattractive but my personality is odd to most people and I don't have the mental strength to throw myself out there.
I have cats, hobbies and romance novels. If I were a guy, I would opt for porn and video games. There are worse ways to spend time.



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20 Jun 2010, 8:56 pm

half the relationships at least in my country are all about show. Macho idiots trying to say "look at this hot girl I have" and the woman enjoying the freedom she gets to be rude to other people because "my boyfriend could beat you up." However I also see some honest and true relationships out of real love for one another as well. Sometimes I just think people need to meet in the right situations to get the right first impressions.

Just keep trying to find that right situation man, good luck.



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21 Jun 2010, 3:52 pm

The "You'll find love one day" thing is complete BS.

As a middle age Aspie, I have never known love. Women are simply incapable of looking beyond their own narrow view of the world and seeing that a man with a disability could be a wonderful partner. In my view, the only people (usually women at that) who say "You'll find love one day", are women who themselves wouldn't have anything to do with you if you were the last aman on earth.


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21 Jun 2010, 4:47 pm

I honestly think very few people find true love that lasts. There are some who are lucky enough to find someone they are really compatible with (and not someone they just THINK they are), and, through mutual work, their relationship always remains strong enough to overcome its pitfalls. I hope to eventually achieve this, though I consider my chances to be very low.

I think the idealistic belief that out of the 6,828,500,000+ people on the planet, every person is going to magically encounter the ONE right other person and let things just fall into place, is one of the saddest myths in society, and if anything, it just makes strong relationships more difficult to form/keep. I'm really not trying to sound like a jerk; I'm not looking down on anyone. I think it's just the way things are.



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21 Jun 2010, 5:14 pm

nick007 wrote:
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Nonono, its not BS.

"You'll find love one day", is perfectly truthfull. In fact, you may find love soon, you'll see that special girl that looks at you, she comes over to talk to you, you work together on a project (for school or work) and then one day, you'll fall in love - and then she mentions her boyfriend.

See? It happened to me! EVERYONE can find love (...and then have their heart smashed to bits).


You forgot the rest of the story, for those of us who did have a happy ending.

You talk to the girl, become her friend or acquaintance, stay in her mind, and then when she dumps/gets dumped by said boyfriend, you're on the short list of candidates to be the next boyfriend.

Way too many guys write off girls with boyfriends as if they are permanently out of the market -- nothing could be farther from the truth. Most women that are worth it will have a boyfriend at any given time -- why wouldn't they? The mistake guys make is to leave a bad impression by instantly losing interest when they hear about the boyfriend. These guys (and I was one of them) turn what should have been a good, long-term investment in a friendship/possible future relationship into yet another failure, and at the same time demonstrate to the girl that they aren't into her as a person, only as a prospect. I know that guys here will protest and say "I just wanted to show that I'm not the kind of scum that would hit on a girl who was already involved!" but women don't read it that way. Instead, they scratch you off of the list.

That being said, there's a fine line to walk between being a friend and being friended. Don't give girls like that too much of your time until they are ready to move towards a relationship with you -- don't get used, don't be the "shoulder to cry on" all the time. Be firm, be nice, be strong, and maybe be her next boyfriend.


How do I tell the difference between being a friend & being friended :?: Lots of my women friends run to me for emotional support to complain about their jerk of a BF & when they are single those women do not like me in "that way" but they tell me how they wish their BFs wer like me. It's very frustrating :x Women never give me a chance :cry:


If you complain to them like that, they never will. Never complain to a woman, it just makes them think you are in their mode, and not masculine enough to "deal with it."

Being a friend means she calls you, does nice things for you, thinks of you when opportunities or other nice events come up.

When you are friended, you get used emotionally -- she calls you up just to complain, doesn't care about your problems or concerns (or your life). You also can get used in more obvious ways -- help on homework, studying, etc. Now, don't get me wrong -- studying with a girl for a test together can actually help you seal the deal (done that before), but only if she was interested in the first place, and if you end up spending more time talking to eachother about things than actually studying. This has to happen naturally. A user girl won't let the session go off the rails like that -- she'll keep steering it back to business, because at the end of the day, that's all you are -- business, a means to an end.

Does this help? I can clarify further.


I get it now & I do not complain to women; they never give me a chance to. If it wasn't for women like that; I'd have no women friends :cry: Only people who like me are gay/bi guys & older women who talk about how they wish their daughters/granddaughters would like me instead of being with losers. That's why I think I need an arranged marriage. Some people think I'm a great guy but women are completely unattracted & uninterested in me romantically. I think there must be some kind of class that women take that teaches em all NOT to give me a chance but compare every guy they date to me instead :x


You must not believe every word people say , including girls , especially when they are crying and upset , they really don't mean what they are saying when they are in that state.

Don't ever believe a crying 'friend' girl telling you " :( Boohoo, I wish if my bf was just like you, nick".

If her biggest wish was really getting a guy who is 'just like you' then she would dump her bf and tries anything to date you, but she won't ....she will probably go back to her bf.

Learn to stop being naive.

And keep in mind that not all friendly people are your friends.



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21 Jun 2010, 7:01 pm

My advice? You are 30 almost 31.

Give up on "love". By this i mean give up on your preconceived notions of western philosophical "romance" and just practice simple things like hygiene. healthy lifestyle. and in general being "friendly". you have an internal clock that may very well soon expire.

all women want are things you can eventually provide.

if you are finantially secure/stable.

keep yourself clean eg bath regurly shave accordingly. trim nails. etc. etc. etc.

also fashion. how your clothes look. eg less Albert Eisenstein more "Calvin Kline" ask a woman in any store "what should I wear, why and how do you dress your bf husband"

practice saying hi. then go from there.

women are a lot more like you than different from you. they want someone who makes them comfortable.

also try using dating guides for tools eg. dating 101 or cocky funny theories from David Deangelo.

also try improv theater classes. thats what cured me of a lot of my uncomfortable social quirks. ;)

oh yeah, and Yes it is BS. Love is merely an opinion. lest it is "IMO"

hope this helps.

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24 Jun 2010, 6:12 am

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Using "rental girls" is not appropriate.

If you want to make NT girls avoid you, "rental girls" are the way to go.


Appropriate? Who cares?

One reason I have for never sleeping with a prostitute (or an escort, or what have you) is that I can imagine potential girlfriends writing me off, or even hypothetical girlfriends breaking up with me, upon finding out that I slept with a prostitute. Some of the girls I've been interested in include people who are anti-prostitution.


Who says she would have to know?


Some people find behaviour like that morally wrong. Deceit, arrogance, selfishness, and wanton disregard for other people's feelings are not always perceived as good things even when sex is the bribe.



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Being in an unpaid relationship that works for you means you being the boss not the servant.

Misogynist BS. :evil:


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24 Jun 2010, 9:50 am

Ambivalence, I'm glad someone said it. I'm shocked at the misogynistic bullsh*t I've read in this thread. I'm a 42-year old female Aspie who's been alone for most of her life and I don't blame the men, NT or otherwise, for it.

Not only am I not materialistic, I've never actually known *any* women to be as materialistic or shallow as frustrated men make them out to be. Who are these women? Why have I never met any of them?



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24 Jun 2010, 10:03 am

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Ambivalence, I'm glad someone said it. I'm shocked at the misogynistic bullsh*t I've read in this thread. I'm a 42-year old female Aspie who's been alone for most of her life and I don't blame the men, NT or otherwise, for it.

Not only am I not materialistic, I've never actually known *any* women to be as materialistic or shallow as frustrated men make them out to be. Who are these women? Why have I never met any of them?


Ricky gets all his advice from what is probably the most misogynistic blog to ever be created...



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24 Jun 2010, 1:04 pm

You'll find LOVE one day...

And while this might be true for those who want it, I'm not LOOKING for "love" of the romantical variety!

Been there...DONE that!

Bottom line was that it was just a female looking for some guy to spend money on her. Many of them make the MISTAKE of thinking that I've got this TREE sprouting $10s, $20s, $50s, and $100s (no smaller denominations).

Others are looking for a relationship that I can't provide them with as in someone who wants to spend time with them. While that is not a bad thing in and of itself, these women tend to be either clingy/needy or possessive/demanding. And I'm the type who can spend hours - even DAYS or WEEKS alone!

But guess WHAT?!?! Apparently THAT makes me a selfish, self-centered person in many peoples' eyes as much as not wanting any KIDS.

Well, TOUGH $#!+ to those who think so because it AIN'T GONNA CHANGE! Unfortunately, people in supervisory capacities will discriminate against you for that when they spend more time worrying about your marital/parental status than worrying about the condition of the division they're supposed to be in charge of.



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24 Jun 2010, 1:47 pm

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Others are looking for a relationship that I can't provide them with as in someone who wants to spend time with them. While that is not a bad thing in and of itself, these women tend to be ither clingy/needy or possessive/demanding. And I'm the type who can spend hours - even DAYS or WEEKS alone!.


Where are you meeting those women :?: I've been told that women do NOT like me because I'm clingy & needy :( I do NOT have a problem with women like that :wink: It probably doesn't matter thou cuz only 1% of Aspies get married so the odds are completely against us :cry:


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24 Jun 2010, 1:52 pm

it wasn't for me :wtg: :heart: