23 May 2012, 9:49 am
23 May 2012, 6:14 pm
24 May 2012, 6:03 pm
Boxman108 wrote:
BrandonSP wrote:
mds_02 wrote:
rabbittss wrote:
I'm just going to go out on a limb here and assume you aren't aware of the way this forum reacts when some one uses the phrase "Nice guy". Essentially a certain cohort of posters assume "Nice guy" is a Dog Whistle for saying that "I'm nice and do stuff for women in the hopes of guilting them into having sex with me, aren't I an evil salacious bastard!, and then get angry when they see through my nefarious plan!, all while twirling my moustachios." There is apparently no variance allowed here, if you use the phrase "Nice guy' you are snidely whiplash, there is no possibility that you simply are to nice and it comes across as disingenuous or people take advantage of you, since the same posters will also tell you that no women would ever take advantage of a man she considers and easy mark.
Is it surprising to you that women feel insulted when it's implied that their entire gender are stupid (just look at the awful romantic choices they invariably make) ungrateful (they didn't want the "nice guy" even after all he did for them) liars (how dare they pretend to want a nice guy)? Or that men feel insulted when it's assumed, based on their relationship status, that they must be superficial a**holes only out for a quick lay?
It's not niceness that turns women off, it's the almost tangible waves of desperation and bitterness that seem to emanate from pretty much every guy who attaches the "nice guy" label to himself.
This. This exactly.
I admit to being one of those "Nice Guys" who can't get a girlfriend, but at least I know my own poor social skills are the main culprit rather than any female defect. Honestly, sometimes I am embarrassed to be a man because of these misogynistic pseudo-Nice Guys with no sense of personal responsibility.
I'd be more embarrassed about the dickheads who make up the majority myself.
If dickheads are the majority, it's statistically likely that you're a dickhead.
now that's embarrassing
24 May 2012, 6:54 pm
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
BrandonSP wrote:
mds_02 wrote:
rabbittss wrote:
I'm just going to go out on a limb here and assume you aren't aware of the way this forum reacts when some one uses the phrase "Nice guy". Essentially a certain cohort of posters assume "Nice guy" is a Dog Whistle for saying that "I'm nice and do stuff for women in the hopes of guilting them into having sex with me, aren't I an evil salacious bastard!, and then get angry when they see through my nefarious plan!, all while twirling my moustachios." There is apparently no variance allowed here, if you use the phrase "Nice guy' you are snidely whiplash, there is no possibility that you simply are to nice and it comes across as disingenuous or people take advantage of you, since the same posters will also tell you that no women would ever take advantage of a man she considers and easy mark.
Is it surprising to you that women feel insulted when it's implied that their entire gender are stupid (just look at the awful romantic choices they invariably make) ungrateful (they didn't want the "nice guy" even after all he did for them) liars (how dare they pretend to want a nice guy)? Or that men feel insulted when it's assumed, based on their relationship status, that they must be superficial a**holes only out for a quick lay?
It's not niceness that turns women off, it's the almost tangible waves of desperation and bitterness that seem to emanate from pretty much every guy who attaches the "nice guy" label to himself.
This. This exactly.
I admit to being one of those "Nice Guys" who can't get a girlfriend, but at least I know my own poor social skills are the main culprit rather than any female defect. Honestly, sometimes I am embarrassed to be a man because of these misogynistic pseudo-Nice Guys with no sense of personal responsibility.
I'd be more embarrassed about the dickheads who make up the majority myself.
If dickheads are the majority, it's statistically likely that you're a dickhead.
now that's embarrassing
Then you're not familiar with basic hypothesis testing.
24 May 2012, 7:06 pm
24 May 2012, 7:08 pm
MrBackward wrote:
Nice guys dont finish last
Well, I try to, she's always happier when I do
24 May 2012, 7:25 pm
edgewaters wrote:
MrBackward wrote:
Nice guys dont finish last
Well, I try to, she's always happier when I do
24 May 2012, 8:14 pm
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
BrandonSP wrote:
mds_02 wrote:
rabbittss wrote:
I'm just going to go out on a limb here and assume you aren't aware of the way this forum reacts when some one uses the phrase "Nice guy". Essentially a certain cohort of posters assume "Nice guy" is a Dog Whistle for saying that "I'm nice and do stuff for women in the hopes of guilting them into having sex with me, aren't I an evil salacious bastard!, and then get angry when they see through my nefarious plan!, all while twirling my moustachios." There is apparently no variance allowed here, if you use the phrase "Nice guy' you are snidely whiplash, there is no possibility that you simply are to nice and it comes across as disingenuous or people take advantage of you, since the same posters will also tell you that no women would ever take advantage of a man she considers and easy mark.
Is it surprising to you that women feel insulted when it's implied that their entire gender are stupid (just look at the awful romantic choices they invariably make) ungrateful (they didn't want the "nice guy" even after all he did for them) liars (how dare they pretend to want a nice guy)? Or that men feel insulted when it's assumed, based on their relationship status, that they must be superficial a**holes only out for a quick lay?
It's not niceness that turns women off, it's the almost tangible waves of desperation and bitterness that seem to emanate from pretty much every guy who attaches the "nice guy" label to himself.
This. This exactly.
I admit to being one of those "Nice Guys" who can't get a girlfriend, but at least I know my own poor social skills are the main culprit rather than any female defect. Honestly, sometimes I am embarrassed to be a man because of these misogynistic pseudo-Nice Guys with no sense of personal responsibility.
I'd be more embarrassed about the dickheads who make up the majority myself.
If dickheads are the majority, it's statistically likely that you're a dickhead.
now that's embarrassing
Another case of attacking another member going unnoticed. I really can't understand why anyone would like this a**hole enough to turn a blind eye to her actions.
24 May 2012, 8:35 pm
24 May 2012, 9:25 pm
25 May 2012, 7:53 am
Boxman108 wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
BrandonSP wrote:
mds_02 wrote:
rabbittss wrote:
I'm just going to go out on a limb here and assume you aren't aware of the way this forum reacts when some one uses the phrase "Nice guy". Essentially a certain cohort of posters assume "Nice guy" is a Dog Whistle for saying that "I'm nice and do stuff for women in the hopes of guilting them into having sex with me, aren't I an evil salacious bastard!, and then get angry when they see through my nefarious plan!, all while twirling my moustachios." There is apparently no variance allowed here, if you use the phrase "Nice guy' you are snidely whiplash, there is no possibility that you simply are to nice and it comes across as disingenuous or people take advantage of you, since the same posters will also tell you that no women would ever take advantage of a man she considers and easy mark.
Is it surprising to you that women feel insulted when it's implied that their entire gender are stupid (just look at the awful romantic choices they invariably make) ungrateful (they didn't want the "nice guy" even after all he did for them) liars (how dare they pretend to want a nice guy)? Or that men feel insulted when it's assumed, based on their relationship status, that they must be superficial a**holes only out for a quick lay?
It's not niceness that turns women off, it's the almost tangible waves of desperation and bitterness that seem to emanate from pretty much every guy who attaches the "nice guy" label to himself.
This. This exactly.
I admit to being one of those "Nice Guys" who can't get a girlfriend, but at least I know my own poor social skills are the main culprit rather than any female defect. Honestly, sometimes I am embarrassed to be a man because of these misogynistic pseudo-Nice Guys with no sense of personal responsibility.
I'd be more embarrassed about the dickheads who make up the majority myself.
If dickheads are the majority, it's statistically likely that you're a dickhead.
now that's embarrassing
Another case of attacking another member going unnoticed. I really can't understand why anyone would like this a**hole enough to turn a blind eye to her actions.
Most of the more subtle or passive-agressive personal attacks, straw man arguments or posts simply intended to provoke here go unnoticed. It also depends on how often certain mods disagrees or agrees with you.
With that being said, you shouldn't refer to other posters as a-holes; this is just a well intended advice. Blunt personal attacks are no better than subtle ones.
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25 May 2012, 8:49 am
Boxman108 wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
BrandonSP wrote:
mds_02 wrote:
rabbittss wrote:
I'm just going to go out on a limb here and assume you aren't aware of the way this forum reacts when some one uses the phrase "Nice guy". Essentially a certain cohort of posters assume "Nice guy" is a Dog Whistle for saying that "I'm nice and do stuff for women in the hopes of guilting them into having sex with me, aren't I an evil salacious bastard!, and then get angry when they see through my nefarious plan!, all while twirling my moustachios." There is apparently no variance allowed here, if you use the phrase "Nice guy' you are snidely whiplash, there is no possibility that you simply are to nice and it comes across as disingenuous or people take advantage of you, since the same posters will also tell you that no women would ever take advantage of a man she considers and easy mark.
Is it surprising to you that women feel insulted when it's implied that their entire gender are stupid (just look at the awful romantic choices they invariably make) ungrateful (they didn't want the "nice guy" even after all he did for them) liars (how dare they pretend to want a nice guy)? Or that men feel insulted when it's assumed, based on their relationship status, that they must be superficial a**holes only out for a quick lay?
It's not niceness that turns women off, it's the almost tangible waves of desperation and bitterness that seem to emanate from pretty much every guy who attaches the "nice guy" label to himself.
This. This exactly.
I admit to being one of those "Nice Guys" who can't get a girlfriend, but at least I know my own poor social skills are the main culprit rather than any female defect. Honestly, sometimes I am embarrassed to be a man because of these misogynistic pseudo-Nice Guys with no sense of personal responsibility.
I'd be more embarrassed about the dickheads who make up the majority myself.
If dickheads are the majority, it's statistically likely that you're a dickhead.
now that's embarrassing
Another case of attacking another member going unnoticed. I really can't understand why anyone would like this a**hole enough to turn a blind eye to her actions.
when a post isnt properly reported and the "report"includes namecalling the other member theres very little we can do but remove both of your posts and I doubt thats what you are after
25 May 2012, 8:30 pm
I dont think they are lying, most girls I know do want a nice guy they can talk to. But they do also need him to be able to give them some resistance, and be a bit bad from time to time.
They need to know that you can stand up to them when needed, but still be able to help them through hard times 
17 Sep 2012, 5:05 pm
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