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14 Jan 2013, 1:51 pm

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Heh... you need to chat with more of our own WP ladies, then. ;) You'd be surprised how many of them are into all kind of really, really.... "interesting" stuff. Not to mention, crave it every bit as much (or more!) than the men do!


Some of the stuff women have said to me on here has left me utterly gasted my flabber.



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14 Jan 2013, 2:19 pm

Tequila wrote:
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Heh... you need to chat with more of our own WP ladies, then. ;) You'd be surprised how many of them are into all kind of really, really.... "interesting" stuff. Not to mention, crave it every bit as much (or more!) than the men do!


Some of the stuff women have said to me on here has left me utterly gasted my flabber.


Can you give some examples?

On the board or via pm?



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14 Jan 2013, 3:08 pm

so when does the next episode air?



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14 Jan 2013, 3:17 pm

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so when does the next episode air?


Tomorrow at 9.00pm

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the- ... e/series-2

"Extreme sports enthusiast 34-year-old Samantha has it all - amazing friends, a beautiful home, and even a PhD in psychology. The only thing eluding her is love.

Attractive, articulate and bright, Sam should be fending off suitors, but Sam has achondroplasia, the most common type of dwarfism, and being 3 foot 10 tends to attract all the wrong kind of attention. She's looking for someone as gutsy as she is - will James from New Zealand rise to the challenge, or is rocker Colin more her type?

Ray is 49; an office-worker who has a learning disability, Ray's heart was broken three years ago when his fiancee Lolita left him. He's decided it's time to meet someone new, even though moving on means finding love through the dating agency that Lolita runs.

But Lolita is feeling emotional about Ray's return to the dating game and thinks she might want him back.

Thirty-year-old Steve is worried that his facial disfigurement - Crouzon Syndrome - may put off potential girlfriends. He's ecstatic when he gets a date, but devastated when she cancels on him the day they were meant to meet.

But when he finally does get a date, with fellow music-lover Ellie, can he conquer his nerves?"



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14 Jan 2013, 3:39 pm

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I just thought there was a strange disconnect between an autistic person calling another one clueless, as if you didn't feel any
kind of kindred spirit with him


So? He was clueless about dating. That was the point of his presence in that episode.

Last I checked, siding with another autistic just because he happens to share the same condition was not one of the criteria for autism.

Who called the NT Tourette guy boring, by the way? And yet you don't make a big deal out of it.

This "Aspie elitism" in all its various forms need to go. It's so 20th century.



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14 Jan 2013, 3:46 pm

^^^ That and it's plainly evident here on WP that just because someone has Aspergers/Autism, it doesn't change the fact we're all completely different people with random personality traits. Aspie or not, there's going to be good people and rotten people, those we like and those we don't.



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14 Jan 2013, 3:49 pm

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^^^ That and it's plainly evident here on WP that just because someone has Aspergers/Autism, it doesn't change the fact we're all completely different people with random personality traits. Aspie or not, there's going to be good people and rotten people, those we like and those we don't.

rotten "people"? where are you going with that? that's a pretty big leap to make from seeing posts on a message board.


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14 Jan 2013, 4:09 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
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^^^ That and it's plainly evident here on WP that just because someone has Aspergers/Autism, it doesn't change the fact we're all completely different people with random personality traits. Aspie or not, there's going to be good people and rotten people, those we like and those we don't.

rotten "people"? where are you going with that? that's a pretty big leap to make from seeing posts on a message board.


Yes there's the 'Fun' Aspies and the 'Dark Triad' Aspies!

And it's WAR!

Lol :D



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14 Jan 2013, 4:12 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
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^^^ That and it's plainly evident here on WP that just because someone has Aspergers/Autism, it doesn't change the fact we're all completely different people with random personality traits. Aspie or not, there's going to be good people and rotten people, those we like and those we don't.

rotten "people"? where are you going with that? that's a pretty big leap to make from seeing posts on a message board.

Not really - many people show their true colours on a regular basis and post the same words they'd say in person (if they had the courage to do so.)
And, yes, some people are going to show the world they really are either shining examples of humanity, or not. What stance are you trying to take - that all are inherently good people despite posting a constant stream of hate? (And no, I'm not thinking of anyone in particular if that's what you're thinking.)

Think of users you've had to ban... still think I'm making a big leap?

Fortunately, people can change. ;) I've known many people (including myself) who've made some pretty big personality changes - many of them for the better.



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14 Jan 2013, 4:13 pm

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I just thought there was a strange disconnect between an autistic person calling another one clueless, as if you didn't feel any
kind of kindred spirit with him


So? He was clueless about dating. That was the point of his presence in that episode.

Last I checked, siding with another autistic just because he happens to share the same condition was not one of the criteria for autism.

Who called the NT Tourette guy boring, by the way? And yet you don't make a big deal out of it.

This "Aspie elitism" in all its various forms need to go. It's so 20th century.


Well being on the Autistic Spectrum means I often have a feeling of solidarity with other people on it, especially those I consider more vulnerable than me and also I thought saying a person with Autism was 'clueless' where dating was concerned was like blaming a blind person for bumping into things ie how was he ever likely to be brilliant at it?? He wouldn't be on the programme if he was!

We call it 'Stating the bleeding obvious' in my country, I don't know whether you have the same concept where you come from?



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14 Jan 2013, 4:16 pm

BlueMax wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
BlueMax wrote:
^^^ That and it's plainly evident here on WP that just because someone has Aspergers/Autism, it doesn't change the fact we're all completely different people with random personality traits. Aspie or not, there's going to be good people and rotten people, those we like and those we don't.

rotten "people"? where are you going with that? that's a pretty big leap to make from seeing posts on a message board.

Not really - many people show their true colours on a regular basis and post the same words they'd say in person (if they had the courage to do so.)
And, yes, some people are going to show the world they really are either shining examples of humanity, or not. What stance are you trying to take - that all are inherently good people despite posting a constant stream of hate? (And no, I'm not thinking of anyone in particular if that's what you're thinking.)

Think of users you've had to ban... still think I'm making a big leap?

Fortunately, people can change. ;) I've known many people (including myself) who've made some pretty big personality changes - many of them for the better.

thinking of users i've had to ban..... you're still making a big leap - people may make nasty posts and act like rotten b*****s or misogynistic dicks on the forum, for example, but that doesn't make them bad people. there is a massive distinction there. posts on the forum do not make up the entire person.


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14 Jan 2013, 4:19 pm

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Well being on the Autistic Spectrum means I often have a feeling of solidarity with other people on it, especially those I consider more vulnerable than me and also I thought saying a person with Autism was 'clueless' where dating was concerned was like blaming a blind person for bumping into things ie how was he ever likely to be brilliant at it?? He wouldn't be on the programme if he was!


I said he was clueless. Whether you consider this a blame or not is your problem. You're still attributing wrong motives to me.

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We call it 'Stating the bleeding obvious' in my country, I don't know whether you have the same concept where you come from?


Yeah, stating the obvious. That's it. He was clueless about dating.

Now get over it.



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14 Jan 2013, 4:20 pm

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thinking of users i've had to ban..... you're still making a big leap - people may make nasty posts and act like rotten b*****s or misogynistic dicks on the forum, for example, but that doesn't make them bad people. there is a massive distinction there. posts on the forum do not make up the entire person.

Well, then you have your opinion and I have mine.
Why is this minor point of "bad person" so important to you? I imagine there's a pretty significant story there... willing to share?



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14 Jan 2013, 4:28 pm

MCalavera wrote:
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Well being on the Autistic Spectrum means I often have a feeling of solidarity with other people on it, especially those I consider more vulnerable than me and also I thought saying a person with Autism was 'clueless' where dating was concerned was like blaming a blind person for bumping into things ie how was he ever likely to be brilliant at it?? He wouldn't be on the programme if he was!


I said he was clueless. Whether you consider this a blame or not is your problem. You're still attributing wrong motives to me.

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We call it 'Stating the bleeding obvious' in my country, I don't know whether you have the same concept where you come from?


Yeah, stating the obvious. That's it. He was clueless about dating.

Now get over it.


Calling someone clueless sounds pretty insulting to me - the typical sort of thing an NT would say, which is why it grinds my gears when I'm on an Asperger site, whether the person saying it has AS or not.

Same with 'get over it' - aggression again

Don't tell me what to do on my own thread either



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14 Jan 2013, 4:30 pm

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thinking of users i've had to ban..... you're still making a big leap - people may make nasty posts and act like rotten b*****s or misogynistic dicks on the forum, for example, but that doesn't make them bad people. there is a massive distinction there. posts on the forum do not make up the entire person.

Well, then you have your opinion and I have mine.
Why is this minor point of "bad person" so important to you? I imagine there's a pretty significant story there... willing to share?


Yes I'm a bit pissed off here as you're both not taking notice of my posts!

No matter how many threads I start on here I'll never be accepted into the WP elite clique will I? :roll:

Perhaps I need to start calling autistic people clueless and generally acting more NT



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14 Jan 2013, 4:30 pm

nessa238 wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
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Well being on the Autistic Spectrum means I often have a feeling of solidarity with other people on it, especially those I consider more vulnerable than me and also I thought saying a person with Autism was 'clueless' where dating was concerned was like blaming a blind person for bumping into things ie how was he ever likely to be brilliant at it?? He wouldn't be on the programme if he was!


I said he was clueless. Whether you consider this a blame or not is your problem. You're still attributing wrong motives to me.

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We call it 'Stating the bleeding obvious' in my country, I don't know whether you have the same concept where you come from?


Yeah, stating the obvious. That's it. He was clueless about dating.

Now get over it.


Calling someone clueless sounds pretty insulting to me - the typical sort of thing an NT would say, which is why it grinds my gears when I'm on an Asperger site, whether the person saying it has AS or not.

Same with 'get over it' - aggression again

Don't tell me what to do on my own thread either


This isn't an AS vs NT thingy.

This forum isn't exactly like the part of the world where you live. And people here don't necessarily share the same experiences and attitudes as you do. So try to accept that. And you'll be fine.



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