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21 May 2018, 8:49 pm

Marknis wrote:
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You are all WAY underestimating the value of socializing and networking at college/uni in terms of how it paves the way for job offers and opens doors to career & business opportunities. It’s also good for education/academic/research opportunities. Socializing and networking are not useless and should not be avoided in order to solely focus on studying.


I would normally agree with you on this one thing, however, in this case the OP seems to have made college not at all about learning or studying, but about Finding A Girlfriend. So part of the reason he has not been successful with university is because he's unable to focus on the real reason he should be there, which is to follow through on his goal and complete his studies.


I didn't even go to an university. It was a community college.

All your posts indicate that you don't want me to have a girlfriend and to just be a mindless robot like my mother wants me to be.


All of your posts indicate to me that you have a one track mind and are not capable of accepting responsibility for your own behavior.


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21 May 2018, 9:12 pm

Luhluhluh wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
You are all WAY underestimating the value of socializing and networking at college/uni in terms of how it paves the way for job offers and opens doors to career & business opportunities. It’s also good for education/academic/research opportunities. Socializing and networking are not useless and should not be avoided in order to solely focus on studying.


I would normally agree with you on this one thing, however, in this case the OP seems to have made college not at all about learning or studying, but about Finding A Girlfriend. So part of the reason he has not been successful with university is because he's unable to focus on the real reason he should be there, which is to follow through on his goal and complete his studies.


I didn't even go to an university. It was a community college.

All your posts indicate that you don't want me to have a girlfriend and to just be a mindless robot like my mother wants me to be.


All of your posts indicate to me that you have a one track mind and are not capable of accepting responsibility for your own behavior.


You claimed in a previous post you could relate to my struggles. Why are you now downplaying them?



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21 May 2018, 10:42 pm

Marknis wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
You are all WAY underestimating the value of socializing and networking at college/uni in terms of how it paves the way for job offers and opens doors to career & business opportunities. It’s also good for education/academic/research opportunities. Socializing and networking are not useless and should not be avoided in order to solely focus on studying.


I would normally agree with you on this one thing, however, in this case the OP seems to have made college not at all about learning or studying, but about Finding A Girlfriend. So part of the reason he has not been successful with university is because he's unable to focus on the real reason he should be there, which is to follow through on his goal and complete his studies.


I didn't even go to an university. It was a community college.

All your posts indicate that you don't want me to have a girlfriend and to just be a mindless robot like my mother wants me to be.


All of your posts indicate to me that you have a one track mind and are not capable of accepting responsibility for your own behavior.


You claimed in a previous post you could relate to my struggles. Why are you now downplaying them?


She’s not. She’s trying to tell you that you have an inability to Be Present and focus on a task at hand because you are constantly obsessing over the fact that you don’t have a girlfriend & want one.


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21 May 2018, 11:25 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
You are all WAY underestimating the value of socializing and networking at college/uni in terms of how it paves the way for job offers and opens doors to career & business opportunities. It’s also good for education/academic/research opportunities. Socializing and networking are not useless and should not be avoided in order to solely focus on studying.


I would normally agree with you on this one thing, however, in this case the OP seems to have made college not at all about learning or studying, but about Finding A Girlfriend. So part of the reason he has not been successful with university is because he's unable to focus on the real reason he should be there, which is to follow through on his goal and complete his studies.


I didn't even go to an university. It was a community college.

All your posts indicate that you don't want me to have a girlfriend and to just be a mindless robot like my mother wants me to be.


All of your posts indicate to me that you have a one track mind and are not capable of accepting responsibility for your own behavior.


You claimed in a previous post you could relate to my struggles. Why are you now downplaying them?


She’s not. She’s trying to tell you that you have an inability to Be Present and focus on a task at hand because you are constantly obsessing over the fact that you don’t have a girlfriend & want one.


I am just so deeply psychologically attached to wanting one that I can't let it go. When I truly became depressed, I kept seeing how my male peers had girlfriends while I didn't and my life wasn't changing. I sometimes feel like I can't be helped and I just need to die.



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22 May 2018, 2:26 am

Marknis wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
You are all WAY underestimating the value of socializing and networking at college/uni in terms of how it paves the way for job offers and opens doors to career & business opportunities. It’s also good for education/academic/research opportunities. Socializing and networking are not useless and should not be avoided in order to solely focus on studying.


I would normally agree with you on this one thing, however, in this case the OP seems to have made college not at all about learning or studying, but about Finding A Girlfriend. So part of the reason he has not been successful with university is because he's unable to focus on the real reason he should be there, which is to follow through on his goal and complete his studies.


I didn't even go to an university. It was a community college.

All your posts indicate that you don't want me to have a girlfriend and to just be a mindless robot like my mother wants me to be.


All of your posts indicate to me that you have a one track mind and are not capable of accepting responsibility for your own behavior.


You claimed in a previous post you could relate to my struggles. Why are you now downplaying them?


She’s not. She’s trying to tell you that you have an inability to Be Present and focus on a task at hand because you are constantly obsessing over the fact that you don’t have a girlfriend & want one.


I am just so deeply psychologically attached to wanting one that I can't let it go. When I truly became depressed, I kept seeing how my male peers had girlfriends while I didn't and my life wasn't changing. I sometimes feel like I can't be helped and I just need to die.


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This is why in order for you to have a fighting chance of getting a girlfriend you need to stop obsessing over the fact that you don't have one and start spending your time focused on improving yourself, your health/fitness etc, and then bit by bit as you become happier & more attractive to women you'll increase your chances of getting dates.. all by focusing on doing the things that build you up to being more datable instead of just dwelling on the fact that you aren't at the moment. Change your focus and it'll actually help you get what you want. Otherwise if you just keep doing exactly the same thing, guess what's going to change? Nothing.


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22 May 2018, 4:26 am

Luhluhluh wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
You are all WAY underestimating the value of socializing and networking at college/uni in terms of how it paves the way for job offers and opens doors to career & business opportunities. It’s also good for education/academic/research opportunities. Socializing and networking are not useless and should not be avoided in order to solely focus on studying.


I would normally agree with you on this one thing, however, in this case the OP seems to have made college not at all about learning or studying, but about Finding A Girlfriend. So part of the reason he has not been successful with university is because he's unable to focus on the real reason he should be there, which is to follow through on his goal and complete his studies.


I think you have a point there. When I wrote that people should involve in romance in school, I didn't mean this type of reasoning: I must get a gf because everybody else has one. I meant that if the chance for romance appeared, people should take it. Unless it is the type AngelRho wrote about: A girl that want 100% of a guys time, something that is not sustainable for an ND, and could be detrimental to studies as well.



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22 May 2018, 9:37 am

When I was in high school, I probably gave off the vibe that "I want a girlfriend because everybody has a girlfriend." I was rejected, scorned, treated like garbage, etc.

But that wasn't true. I really did have crushes on certain girls. I wanted a girlfriend because I really wanted a girlfriend.

I was 14 the last time I felt like I needed a girlfriend to satisfy some peer requirement or whatever.



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22 May 2018, 1:33 pm

Marknis wrote:
I am just so deeply psychologically attached to wanting one that I can't let it go.

That's great! Don't let it go and use it to motivate yourself.
Marknis wrote:
When I truly became depressed, I kept seeing how my male peers had girlfriends while I didn't and my life wasn't changing.

Life doesn't change by itself. It's a hard work that you must do yourself.



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22 May 2018, 1:40 pm

314pe wrote:
Marknis wrote:
I am just so deeply psychologically attached to wanting one that I can't let it go.

That's great! Don't let it go and use it to motivate yourself.
Marknis wrote:
When I truly became depressed, I kept seeing how my male peers had girlfriends while I didn't and my life wasn't changing.

Life doesn't change by itself. It's a hard work that you must do yourself.


If I let it go, it means all my struggles were for nothing but so many want me to let it go. I know Luhlulhluh doesn't want me to have a girlfriend because she thinks I am messed up.



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22 May 2018, 1:42 pm

Hey perhaps due to autism (it is a spectrum after all with varying abilities) but I am CERTAIN you misunderstood Luh’s intent

They were conveying that they want to see you work on yourself (education etc) for your own happiness. It wasn’t to the exclusion of other stuff - they were just of the opinion that it would be more lasting happiness that way.


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22 May 2018, 1:52 pm

Marknis wrote:
314pe wrote:
Marknis wrote:
I am just so deeply psychologically attached to wanting one that I can't let it go.

That's great! Don't let it go and use it to motivate yourself.
Marknis wrote:
When I truly became depressed, I kept seeing how my male peers had girlfriends while I didn't and my life wasn't changing.

Life doesn't change by itself. It's a hard work that you must do yourself.


If I let it go, it means all my struggles were for nothing but so many want me to let it go. I know Luhlulhluh doesn't want me to have a girlfriend because she thinks I am messed up.


NO ONE IS TELLING YOU TO LET IT GO. EVERYONE IS TELLING YOU TO FOCUS ON IMPROVING YOURSELF IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE YOUR GOAL OF ATTRACTING DATES AND A POTENTIAL FUTURE GIRLFRIEND. IT SHOULD BE CLEAR AS DAY TO YOU BY NOW THAT DWELLING ON IT CHANGES NOTHING AND THAT THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE 100% CONTROL OVER CHANGING IS YOURSELF. NO ONE IS TELLING YOU TO FORGET ABOUT YOUR GOAL OF GETTING A GIRLFRIEND. WE'RE TELLING YOU TO CHANGE YOUR FOCUS TO DOING THE THINGS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO GET YOURSELF A GIRLFRIEND BECAUSE SITTING THERE SAYING "I WANT A GIRLFRIEND," ANOTHER 100,000 TIMES IS NOT GOING TO MAGICALLY GET ONE FOR YOU. PUT IN THE HARD WORK REQUIRED TO MAKE YOURSELF MORE ATTRACTIVE TO GIRLS AND THEN IN TIME YOU'LL ATTRACT DATES AND EVENTUALLY HAVE YOURSELF A GIRLFRIEND. EVEN IF IT TAKES 1,000 DAYS OF DISCIPLINED DIET, EXERCISE, AND MENTAL HEALTH IMPROVEMENT STRATEGIES OF VARIOUS KINDS, SO WHAT? THE TIME IS GOING TO PASS ANYWAYS. MAY AS WELL GET STARTED TAKING ACTION AND WORKING TOWARDS YOUR GOAL INSTEAD OF DOING THE SAME THINGS YOU'VE DONE OVER THE LAST 1,000 DAYS THAT HAVE NOT MOVED YOU ONE BIT CLOSER TO ACHIEVING WHAT YOU WANT. NO ONE HERE DOES NOT WANT YOU TO HAVE A GIRLFRIEND. EVERYONE HERE IS TELLING YOU THE PROCESS TO GOING ABOUT GETTING ONE BECAUSE THEY DO WANT TO HEAR THAT YOU SUCCEEDED IN YOUR RELATIONSHIP GOAL. ARE YOU READY TO GET STARTED AND MAKE TODAY THE FIRST DAY OF YOUR SELF IMPROVEMENT JOURNEY, NO MATTER HOW MANY DAYS IT TAKES?


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22 May 2018, 1:57 pm

Damn now I feel motivated to get off MY butt!

Marknis I just had an idea- you could mention to a therapist that this is your end goal and you have been advised to study/etc in other areas of life , to improve your life as a whole and get a good relationship.

You can tell her/him this and ask that they support you and break it down for you. Therapists are great at this. (You won’t find family/friends as effective)

I think you need it made achievable with it broken down and a lot of external support .. whenever you lose focus you can contact the therapist.


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24 May 2018, 4:25 pm

blooiejagwa wrote:
Hey perhaps due to autism (it is a spectrum after all with varying abilities) but I am CERTAIN you misunderstood Luh’s intent

They were conveying that they want to see you work on yourself (education etc) for your own happiness. It wasn’t to the exclusion of other stuff - they were just of the opinion that it would be more lasting happiness that way.


I don't think she wants that anymore. I think she just wants me to disappear and accept what the bullies told me which was "You'll never get a chick!" or "You're never getting laid!".



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24 May 2018, 4:50 pm

Marknis wrote:
blooiejagwa wrote:
Hey perhaps due to autism (it is a spectrum after all with varying abilities) but I am CERTAIN you misunderstood Luh’s intent

They were conveying that they want to see you work on yourself (education etc) for your own happiness. It wasn’t to the exclusion of other stuff - they were just of the opinion that it would be more lasting happiness that way.


I don't think she wants that anymore. I think she just wants me to disappear and accept what the bullies told me which was "You'll never get a chick!" or "You're never getting laid!".

Marknis why pay attention to that even if it WERE true which I doubt.

U are just as bad as me with my constantly pondering my Ex Lawyer and law clerk’s behaviour. It’s pathological because we can’t move past these things and see what we CAN do . We both need therapy to figure ourselves and life out and honestly my last therapy visit was sooo helpful.... I don’t like seeing you like this. We care about you


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24 May 2018, 4:54 pm

I just think Luhluhluh's frustrated that you create a futile situation for yourself. That's what I feel

I feel sort of frustrated myself.



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25 May 2018, 9:45 am

blooiejagwa wrote:
Marknis wrote:
blooiejagwa wrote:
Hey perhaps due to autism (it is a spectrum after all with varying abilities) but I am CERTAIN you misunderstood Luh’s intent

They were conveying that they want to see you work on yourself (education etc) for your own happiness. It wasn’t to the exclusion of other stuff - they were just of the opinion that it would be more lasting happiness that way.


I don't think she wants that anymore. I think she just wants me to disappear and accept what the bullies told me which was "You'll never get a chick!" or "You're never getting laid!".

Marknis why pay attention to that even if it WERE true which I doubt.

U are just as bad as me with my constantly pondering my Ex Lawyer and law clerk’s behaviour. It’s pathological because we can’t move past these things and see what we CAN do . We both need therapy to figure ourselves and life out and honestly my last therapy visit was sooo helpful.... I don’t like seeing you like this. We care about you


It's just hard getting therapy in the Bible Belt. The prevailing social attitudes are "God has a plan for you and Jesus loves you so you shouldn't feel sad.", "Suck it up or you are getting a kick up the ass!", and "Psychology is weird and sick!" so trying to get help for depression is a headache. I have an appointment lined up but I have to wait until the 18th of June.

When people talk using harsh words to me, it feels like they don't like me and want me gone. Someone on this forum actually did tell me to f**k off.