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24 Dec 2008, 7:49 pm

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I am a very imperfect human, I am not a flawless perfect being like you.


epherrella never stated or even implied that she was. just that she wanted to talk about stuff with people who are similarly different as she is.

What is it with people wanting to knock people down because they put themselves under a different label than them? "I'm an atheist" "Oh you must go to hell then". People view themselves, in order to make that view known to you they have to use words you and i can understand. Caucassian is a classification, Goth is a classification, Aspie is a classification, High-IQ as similarly a classification.

Why do you persist in bashing people based on classification? Essentially it's the same context as being racist, which is almost the perfect example; the use of stupid human classification in order to define differences themselves and others.


That was a sarcastic comment


No, it was an honest question, i was actually wondering about that when i wrote my post.


I was referring to my comment and not to your question.

The OP is the one who's labeling people here. (young males , low iq, immature ...etc). Review the title , whole thread before asking this question again.

As about my comment : "oh I am a bacteria ,I didn't rearch your intelligence..." comment-like are all parody against the OP's way of thinking.


Sarcasm is a negative representation of the truth, non?
I'm still curious though; would you mind answering my question?


Your question is to the wrong person: I have never and ever bashed people based on any kind of "classifications" ,race or intelligence.

You should ask this to the OP.


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He actually has gotten on my case a few times for bashing on fat women so do not think of us as allies


lol , yes I remember that thread where you bashed overweighted women and I disagreed with that ...



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24 Dec 2008, 7:53 pm

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24 Dec 2008, 7:57 pm

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Your question is to the wrong person: I have never and ever bashed people based on any kind of "classifications" ,race or intelligence.


You just answered my question. Up to you to figure out what answer you gave.



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24 Dec 2008, 8:21 pm

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OP you are upset with both LPP and I for being "uncoherant" correct?


I think your posts have been somewhat heated and emotional. I don't understand how I am supposed to respond to most of them. I become incoherent when I am very emotionally distressed as a feature of my AS, but I don't know how you could be that upset with me. So I am unsure how to respond. I'm also concerned about LPP's verbal posture and his profile history.

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I say this: keep on topic. Make sure it is understood in the OP that the purpose for the topic is to be productive, and then kindly request that this be respected. It may be in our blood to switch catagories and mix everything into one pot but even the most dumbfounded of us AS "guys" can respect a simple request like staying on topic.


But the problem is that the posts were on topic in the sense that this is not unlike the problem that I have been experiencing, of which I complained in the OP.

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PS: I was not trying to goat you with my comment on "thought policing" ... there is a chance I should have been smarter and realized, there is such a thing as PM's.


I will answer your question if you were asking me what I meant by "thought policing".

For me, it means that opposition views are belittled and attacked to the point where discussion is not allowed and the topic is derailed or shut down, or an atmosphere is created where people won't talk. This is my feeling about how mature female Love & Dating and other topics might be received.

In the OP, I was seeking forum solutions for a forum discussion environment where opposition and minority views, including academic style discussion and mature female analysis, on these Love & Dating topics might take place.

I feel my issues and analysis style clashes with those of the teen and younger AS males, to the point where there is offense taken and attacks. I wonder if there is some way to segregate discussion or go to another forum, so that mature female (and mature male) analysis and can take place without offending or inhibited.

I feel as if I'm being sat on ("thought policed") by the disapproval. In turn, I feel that I'm offending the young males and others whose analysis might be incompatible with mine. When I say "incompatible" I mean it takes place on a younger experience level, different discourse I.Q. and/or gender differences. While intellectual level or experience levels might not mean much for most topics, it makes difference for discussing Dating and Socialization, where education level makes a big difference (culturally and in other ways).

I don't think people understand many of my posts.



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24 Dec 2008, 8:25 pm

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You should be able to understand that from a previous post if you read at a high school level.
This could be easily misunderstood as a personal attack, especially from some one with AS that is of higher intelligence... and LPP fits that mold, even if he doesn't always have the best way of showing it :roll:


No, not really. I'm trying to figure out right now if you and LPP are acting so incoherent and unintelligent on purpose, as if you are trying to bait me into a personal insult.


Please explain to me this ... how is it you know better than me? I was stating an opinion in order to help you see another point of view. You in turn told me my opinion was incorrect. No one likes an ass, and no one lieks having thier opinions stompped on no matter how childish or messy, like you I too am insecure. To be honest, the no, not really comment hurt my feelings...


I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I was making an honest comment. LPP was attacking my attempts to answer his posts and he was demanding that I downrate people's threads, rating them for intelligence and maturity. When I asked him to remove that rating list of people's problems and threads, he said that I was asking to have my own words deleted. I thought he was pretending to not understand me.



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24 Dec 2008, 8:40 pm

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... Please explain to me this ... how is it you know better than me? I was stating an opinion in order to help you see another point of view. You in turn told me my opinion was incorrect. No one likes an ass, and no one lieks having thier opinions stompped on no matter how childish or messy, like you I too am insecure. To be honest, the no, not really comment hurt my feelings...


I think that everyone is being too sensitive about my saying "Hi I.Q.".

I am smarter than I used to be at your age. I must have 20 or 30 more I.Q. points than I had when I was your age.

There has been at least one brain scan study that seems to show that AS brains continue to grow in adulthood. Normal people's brains start shrinking in their late 20s.

If I say I'm higher I.Q. than someone else who has AS in their early 20's, to me that doesn't mean that I've got better basic material than you were born with, or that you won't be smarter than me by the time you get to be my age.

It's my belief, based on my own experience, that AS may get smarter -- their I.Q. goes up -- as they get older. That has been my experience. My talking about I.Q. doesn't mean that I think I am better than any young male AS with a lower I.Q.



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25 Dec 2008, 12:46 am

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That "The Competition: On Quashing Them" is not only NOT a mature topic, it's a dysfunctional teen Machiavellian plotting for sex approach to getting girls. It falls in both the "Teen" and the "Machiavellian" categories.

Hey, give me a break. I'm 24, so it's really "young adult" issues rather than "teenaged" issues. It's a reaction to literally years' worth of ungratifying and all-around frustrating relations with women. Am I actually considering doing unethical things against the competition? Probably not; thought is not the same as action. Sexual frustration and a yearning for intimacy are not immature, puerile matters even if they find expression in topics like "The Competition: On Quashing Them." Asperger's syndrome is a developmental disorder with one major affected area being social and emotional comprehension. Someone with AS, even if otherwise intellectually advanced, is going to seem "younger" in some aspects when it comes to social things. Is there some unwritten requirement that every post in the Love and Dating section reach some standard of "maturity" and intellectual depth to suit your own life situation and preferred modes of communication? Not meaning to sound harsh, but there seems to be some demandingness implicit to this thread.

I think, instead of bringing with you to these forums certain expectations and a dichotomous view of things, it may be beneficial to just take things as they are. People are a mixed bag of deeper passions and more banal concerns; sometimes people just want to vent their emotions, and sometimes they want a more theoretical discussion. This isn't just an aspie thing; it's just life.



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25 Dec 2008, 3:30 am

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I love you :lol: , can I marry you? :lol:


I thought you would never ask! :oops:

IN YOUR FACE LOTUSBLOSSOM!! :twisted:



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25 Dec 2008, 3:39 am

ephemerella after reading your posts you come across a bit narcissistic. Sorry :shrug:

Anyway that doesn't matter it should make for some more interesting threads. :wink: If you have things that you want to talk about, quit complaining and make some threads.



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25 Dec 2008, 5:27 am

I think she doesn't really realize how she comes off: Arrogant, self assured, and a "spoiled" know it all. I'm sure it's not intentional but I can see how it comes across "holier then thou", if you read her blog posts, one wonders why she is interested in such topics when she has had many a man chasing her and has had tonnes of practice.

Personally it seems odd to me that someone so old and knowledgeable in life would come looking for such high brow talk on wrongplanet, which is guaranteed to have a high signal to noise ratio in what she is looking for specifically.

Personally its like she's looking for a particular expression, rather then real deep information, i.e. "I will only accept thus if it is aesthetically pleasing to my educated senses and fits in with my preconceptions to what has been indoctrinated into me as a result of my education and my own thought processes"



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25 Dec 2008, 5:38 am

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he was demanding that I downrate people's threads,


I was NOT asking you to downrate them , I was just asking you to rate them! I have never used the word "down"!

ephemerella , you are just an elitist. Nothing more than that.

Btw, I didn't know that ttqs84 is a female when I replied in that thread , I am not obsessed to look at people's profiles to know their exact gender in order to know how to reply them , I replied her as a person. And oh , she's the one who sent me the first pm and I replied it only once.


And if you think that I am troll stalker or harasser then open that case to the mods and let's see if your accusations are true.



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25 Dec 2008, 6:41 am

I love the assumption that High IQ = Intelligence and maturity. Now I have near genius level of IQ but I don't consider my maturity above people based on what they write in a forum. Furthermore I think it’s kind of childish to say "I can't find intelligent conversation here so let’s make up my own forum." Go to www.simplemachines.org and buy web space and make your own forum that is the only way you can police other threads. In general though while I dislike the very negative view of Asperger's I still believe that they have their right to post and say it as I have my right to not like it and post a response that the original poster might not have wanted. I'm sure this conversation will be very productive...



PS: before you try to say it I'm not a big fan of LPP's posts (and opinions) either but I respect the fact that he is not afraid to speak his mind. I also respect the fact that he is not monitored to a level of excellence so if he chooses to be incoherent that is his thing. While I disagree with many of his assertions I find that he does fairly well at articulating himself as well as not censoring himself to meet other people's expectations. Zane I don’t really know and the other guy just kind of seems like he senses it’s about to die down and then adds more gasoline to the fire.



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25 Dec 2008, 11:03 am

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How do you contact a moderator?


it's not *that* complicated :roll:

I hope you're just being lazy...


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25 Dec 2008, 11:04 am

Ephemerella, I'm certainly not an teenager who is obsesses over sex. In fact, I'm not a teenager at all. Also, I have an Associate of Art Degree. I know computer and ect. I may not be as smart as some of the high functional AS, but I sure can hold a conversation with any out there.

Some of the most educated minds are jackasses. They may have fancy degrees but they can't apply any principals in their live. I don't discriminate between the higher or lower AS, or for that matter with low functional Autistic. I can not compete with a savant, myself.

Many AS have been put down all their lives. They don't need to be insulted.



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25 Dec 2008, 11:15 am

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Wow, I am actually impressed LPP. Well done :)

I am assuming this is the reply in question therfore based on this assumption I will ask the OP :

What is wrong and or offensive about this post?


I think that it's offensive to list people's questions and problems and rate them for maturity/I.Q.


Go and reread my post on page 3, the ratings are about the threads and not the posters of the threads, you are the one who were labeling people here as high IQ vs low IQ. And the goal of these rating is to prove you WRONG, it's to prove you that most threads here are not stupid or shallow as you are claiming. That's why you are so furious because you were proven wrong.

Please , don't project your personality on me.



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25 Dec 2008, 11:22 am

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With an I.Q. of 115 you should not be reading other people's posts with the assumption that you understand them well enough in all of their complexity to unload scathing bile. The kind of sneering condescension and judgmentalism that you have unloaded usually has to a have a much stronger basis than you have laid to try to support it.

Go away, please.


Elitist offense



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I also think it gets me into an argument with the person doing the rating, in this case a young male, about his immaturity and relatively low I.Q. in doing the rating. It forces me to argue that he's immature and unintelligent, which can be construed as a personal attack on him.


Another Elitist offense




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when you are a male from the Middle East? Why are you engaging in this lurid attacking behavior, after I complained of sexism? Does the Internet give you an opportunity to log onto Western boards and harass and stalk feminist posters?


Obvious racism , stereotyping and wrong accusations.



As I said OP since the begining, go and join the nazi.com/forum




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