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11 Feb 2013, 10:50 am

I probably get a lot of messages and responses, but it's hard to convert those into meetings/dates. Even when it gets up to the point of agreeing to meet somewhere, something always happens, or they just suddenly stop responding.

There have been a few times when I similarly just stopped responding to someone. And it was always because I was on the fence about them anyway, and something happened that changed my mood and say "forget it." Is that what it always is, or are there other reasons?

I recently had a situation where it was hard to set up a date because I and the girls' schedules were complicated for this next week, so I gave her my number and said we should text to figure it out. It was because it appeared she misread part of my message about my schedule, and I didn't want to just repeat myself.

No response. I guess that was too forward?



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11 Feb 2013, 10:56 am

No seemed pretty normal to me. After all you're not meant to keep messaging back and forth a lot just a few brief exchanges and a date should be organized if both people like each other. Don't take it to heart if she doesn't text you though. Like you, she might have on the fence about e-dating altogether.



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11 Feb 2013, 10:58 am

JanuaryMan wrote:
No seemed pretty normal to me. After all you're not meant to keep messaging back and forth a lot just a few brief exchanges and a date should be organized if both people like each other. Don't take it to heart if she doesn't text you though. Like you, she might have on the fence about e-dating altogether.


I guess I'm new to this. I don't know how to do the "few" messages. It always ends up like 15 or more. We had organized a plan and place, just not a day, since we both have busy schedules during the day. This sort of thing happens a lot.



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11 Feb 2013, 11:09 am

*sigh*


http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt211754.html

Read point #8.

The mistake that many guys do is keeping the conversation on the dating site, there she's getting bombared by many messages and she will ALWAYS...I am telling, ALWAYS find a guy who sounds 'better' than you; when that happens she would no longer respond to you.



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11 Feb 2013, 11:13 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
*sigh*


http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt211754.html

Read point #8.

The mistake that many guys do is keeping the conversation on the dating site, there she's getting bombared by many messages and she will ALWAYS...I am telling, ALWAYS find a guy who sounds 'better' than you; when that happens she would no longer respond to you.


Yes, I have apparently made that mistake, here as elsewhere. But it's interesting that she quit responding when I pretty much did the same thing as what your #8 point recommends. I thought giving her my number and telling her to text me would throw the ball into her court; that's psychologically sound, right? I guess it was too forward, or I should have asked for hers.

I don't like this game at all. :(



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11 Feb 2013, 11:51 am

Tyri0n wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
*sigh*


http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt211754.html

Read point #8.

The mistake that many guys do is keeping the conversation on the dating site, there she's getting bombared by many messages and she will ALWAYS...I am telling, ALWAYS find a guy who sounds 'better' than you; when that happens she would no longer respond to you.


Yes, I have apparently made that mistake, here as elsewhere. But it's interesting that she quit responding when I pretty much did the same thing as what your #8 point recommends. I thought giving her my number and telling her to text me would throw the ball into her court; that's psychologically sound, right? I guess it was too forward, or I should have asked for hers.

I don't like this game at all. :(


Giving up your nb would make you sound desperate, it's a big no no.

You should instead pull the contact info (ie. fb, skype..etc) from her mouth.



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11 Feb 2013, 12:06 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Tyri0n wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
*sigh*


http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt211754.html

Read point #8.

The mistake that many guys do is keeping the conversation on the dating site, there she's getting bombared by many messages and she will ALWAYS...I am telling, ALWAYS find a guy who sounds 'better' than you; when that happens she would no longer respond to you.


Yes, I have apparently made that mistake, here as elsewhere. But it's interesting that she quit responding when I pretty much did the same thing as what your #8 point recommends. I thought giving her my number and telling her to text me would throw the ball into her court; that's psychologically sound, right? I guess it was too forward, or I should have asked for hers.

I don't like this game at all. :(


Giving up your nb would make you sound desperate, it's a big no no.

You should instead pull the contact info (ie. fb, skype..etc) from her mouth.


Yeah, that would make sense then.

I thought it was just a matter of giving a girl more space. I guess not? God, I DO hate this game. I miss Northeast China -- where girls are more obvious and direct (at least to cute foreigners).



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11 Feb 2013, 12:10 pm

When I get back i'll check my history on okc and try to send you (private) screenshots of real private chats/messages (of mine), to show you some of the ways I use to pull such contact infos from them.
Most convos were in Arabic but some happened in English, I'll try to find you some.



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11 Feb 2013, 12:12 pm

I can read Arabic a little, so I don't think it would be a problem either way. Thanks!

Damn, this girl was hot too and had the exact personality I like... I really, really hate this game. :roll:



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11 Feb 2013, 1:20 pm

Firstly, If a girl likes you, she will make time to see you and it depends on their enthusiasm about you as well. I have had some girls travel 30 miles from London to meet me and made a bigger effort, this is usually a good indicator they are interested.

Secondly, remember get their number as quickly as possible, be personal, stand out and close for a date like others have mentioned.



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11 Feb 2013, 6:21 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
Firstly, If a girl likes you, she will make time to see you and it depends on their enthusiasm about you as well. I have had some girls travel 30 miles from London to meet me and made a bigger effort, this is usually a good indicator they are interested.

Secondly, remember get their number as quickly as possible, be personal, stand out and close for a date like others have mentioned.


Agreed I've met up with Girls from Dundee and Edinburgh and even the local towns within the county, The trick is start a conversation and try to move things forward after a few messages, don't keep chatting till one of you burn out and lose interest.
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That said I've the complete opposite problem of guys here I can get dates through these sites and through banter IRL, My problem is after the first date I lose interest unless the person is a real challenge. Scumbag brain hates being single, Gets bored dating.

Hope your luck improves and you've better luck than me!


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11 Feb 2013, 7:29 pm

Tyri0n wrote:
I guess I'm new to this. I don't know how to do the "few" messages. It always ends up like 15 or more. We had organized a plan and place, just not a day, since we both have busy schedules during the day. This sort of thing happens a lot.


I usually try to ask someone on a date after 3-5 good messages. By good, I mean ones in which they reply in a way suggesting interest (if they ask you any questions in their messages that's a good sign, or if they are rather verbose). I don't usually bother with the phone until after they've accepted, but that's just how I prefer to do things myself. If you message someone for too long on one of those sites they get bored and move on (after all you're basically just a link in their web browser until you meet in person), not to mention as you've noticed, the conversation can dry up.



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11 Feb 2013, 7:42 pm

Tyri0n wrote:
I probably get a lot of messages and responses, but it's hard to convert those into meetings/dates. Even when it gets up to the point of agreeing to meet somewhere, something always happens, or they just suddenly stop responding.

There have been a few times when I similarly just stopped responding to someone. And it was always because I was on the fence about them anyway, and something happened that changed my mood and say "forget it." Is that what it always is, or are there other reasons?

I recently had a situation where it was hard to set up a date because I and the girls' schedules were complicated for this next week, so I gave her my number and said we should text to figure it out. It was because it appeared she misread part of my message about my schedule, and I didn't want to just repeat myself.

No response. I guess that was too forward?
sometimes there is nothing you did wrong. I was all set to meet a girl one time, and we were finalizing our plans via cell phone for the next day. I wake up that morning and see she never answered my text from last night confirming we were meeting. I then checked my pof and the wrench blocked me!! !
This stuff happens a lot on these sites.


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13 Feb 2013, 4:41 pm

Tyrion,

Here's a conversation that happened in English (since the girl is ex-expat working here):

I am in grey, her in white.

[img][1500:2212]http://i.imgur.com/Q4XeT0h.png[/img]


Some notes for you:

- It is known that you should always ask a question in the intro message but it would be best if you throw an unusual question, stay away from the mundane questions such as "what's your name?" - "how was your day?" boring things like that, women there receive tons of such questions everyday so you need to ask something bit different and unusual based on what you read on her profile.

- As you've noticed at the bottom, and that's a crucial part, I've suggested to communicate outside okcupid, but I didn't suggested a phone number and left the choice open for her, as you can see I've thrown my phone number only after she suggested whatsapp which requires a phone number. She have willingly gave me hers to add her too.

- DO NOT ever throw a phone number or skype or fb unsolicitedly - no matter how friendly and receptive she sounds.

- If you wanna reply fast to her, It is always better to reply from Okcupid App and not from a computer, that wouldn't make sound like a desperate who's waiting for a message on the computer - your phone is always with you whenever you are and she knows that. Even sometimes I've add a comment "lol, I was just checking my okcupid on phone" Or "lol I was about to log out from okc app, it was bugging me" in case I am replying after minutes to her message.



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13 Feb 2013, 4:54 pm

and oh.... try to use the info about her favorite foods when you suggest a place to meet!



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14 Feb 2013, 5:23 am

Tyri0n wrote:
I can read Arabic a little, so I don't think it would be a problem either way. Thanks!

Damn, this girl was hot too and had the exact personality I like... I really, really hate this game. :roll:


You can read Arabic? O_o

Alriiight ;)