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Brianruns10
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29 Jun 2013, 9:55 am

Those familiar with my myriad posts over the years know (and are no doubt tired of) my posts about my lack of success in dating. I feel in recent months I've been improving, at least, from a mental perspective, in terms of learning to accept myself as I am, and trying to improve my self image, so that I may be ready to accept someone else too, and engage in romance and dating.

But I've often been conflicted, between my desire for a companion, and my embrasure of solitude. I veer from one to the other, and if I ever were in a relationship, I think I'd still need to have m own bedroom and bed, simply because I require space. I had often associated this as part of my aspieness, but now I'm not so sure.

You see, last weekend something happened. A friend, female, whom I've known for a while, came to visit. She lives and works in Thailand, and we hadn't seen each other for two years but kept in touch. She came back not long ago to see her family, and we hung out and watched a movie at my place. But things took a turn. Without going into details out of respect to her, I will say that while we didn't go all the way, things went rather far along. Making out, I suppose you'd call it.

This was the second time I've ever gone so far with a woman. It has never been with a stranger, and both people were ones whom I respected a great deal, and had a lot of trust and affection. Yet despite being a presumably safe and good environment for expressing physical attraction, in both cases, when it was over and done, I was left disturbed.

The first time, I thought it was from lack of experience. But after this second time, I'm not so sure.

I was disturbed because I felt very bestial and animalistic. I didn't like that I had engaged in this behavior. Even though it was mutual, I still felt I was using her, taking advantage, objectifying her for my gratification (though I was, at the time, very concerned and interested in ensuring they enjoyed themselves, and all indications are they did).

But moreover, in the days since the last experience, which was a week ago, I have felt my sexual interest do a cliff dive. the first time I kissed a woman it was exciting because I'd never done it. This second time though, it was fun, but then at the end sort of disappointing because it was...the same. Sure it was a different person, but it was...the same. One pair of lips or another, one pair of breasts or another. Nothing new was discovered.

I suppose it is partly due to the fantasy being made a reality, but what has resulted is, I don't have a desire to pursue a woman anymore...at least, the past week, it has all gone. And the thought now of going all the way, of losing my virginity and actually having sex just repulses me as something base.

The thing is I still have a desire for, erm how to say this politely, expression or release of desire. But lately it is enough to do it an a quick, self-stimulated way, and the release is achieved and the desire vanishes. I am satisfied and content. And meanwhile, my desire to be physical with another person has yet to return. My friend is still in town, and I could easily call her over. If I really wanted to, I could go all the way with her. As it stands, I don't think I will. I just don't have the desire to go all the way with her, or even repeat last weekend. It feels like, "It's happened, now I move on."

Is this asexuality? To have sexual urges, but to not desire to express them with people? To feel repelled by physical expression of affection with another person? To have such low desire that, having made out with a person, a week later the impact still lingers and I have no desire to do it again? Is this normal asexuality, or sexual dysfunction on my part? I mean, what IS asexuality? Does it imply NO interest, because the interest remains. It's just that I'm satisfied to abate that desire in the quick, self driven fashion; I feel at this time, that I don't desire to be with anyone in a familiar way...I'm repelled and repulsed by the physical act itself as something animal-like, something to be transcended. I feel now like I am close to transcending sexual desire, to be a person completely self contained, not needing anyone...

So, am I asexual?



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29 Jun 2013, 10:15 am

http://www.asexuality.org/home/overview.html

According to this resource made by and for asexuals...

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An asexual is someone who does not experience sexual attraction.

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Asexual people have the same emotional needs as anyone else, and like in the sexual community we vary widely in how we fulfill those needs. Some asexual people are happier on their own, others are happiest with a group of close friends. Other asexual people have a desire to form more intimate romantic relationships, and will date and seek long-term partnerships.

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Many asexual people experience attraction, but we feel no need to act out that attraction sexually. Instead we feel a desire to get to know someone, to get close to them in whatever way works best for us. Asexual people who experience attraction will often be attracted to a particular gender, and will identify as lesbian, gay, bi, or straight.

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For some sexual arousal is a fairly regular occurrence, though it is not associated with a desire to find a sexual partner or partners. Some will occasionally masturbate, but feel no desire for partnered sexuality. Other asexual people experience little or no arousal.


What you should be looking for is the presence or absence of sexual attraction specifically. There are numerous reasons people may be afraid of sex, disgusted by sex, etc.

ForeverAloneVirgin wrote:
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Shut the f**k up you are not asexual. If anything after kissing her you just realized how pathetic you are and are now trying to convince yourself that you have no desire for sex.
Yes you do, seriously just get an escort. You can safely explore this in a relaxed enviroment.

Also by the way you write avoiding sexual terms you sound like a p****.


Go project your own masculine insecurities elsewhere.



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29 Jun 2013, 10:37 am

I can tell my experience.

Pure sex, with nothing more, is not interesting for me. It's basically a repetitive physical routine that becomes quickly boring. I lose interest VERY fast (if I had, many times not even that).

On the other hand, sex when you really feel attracted, not necessarily in love, but very attracted by this person... well, that's a completely different world.

I think this is called 'demisexual', though I'm not sure that it deserves a word. It's just... it. This is considered a 'gray area' between 'sexual' and 'asexual'. Whatever. Your case... well, I don't know, but it seems quite clear that you're not attracted by her. If you were, you would like to spend time with her, independently of having or not having sex.

So, don't worry and keep looking.


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29 Jun 2013, 12:31 pm

So what if you really are asexual? Doesn't give you an excuse to now flake on the girl. Take care that you aren't being cruel and that you consider the girl's feelings. Stop being so preoccupied with your own.



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29 Jun 2013, 12:55 pm

MCalavera wrote:
So what if you really are asexual? Doesn't give you an excuse to now flake on the girl. Take care that you aren't being cruel and that you consider the girl's feelings. Stop being so preoccupied with your own.


To be fair she's leaving the country again in a weeks' time, and I don't even think she'd have time to see me, wanting to spend it with her family. I think we both saw that evening for what it was, and don't want to get serious, because of geography and all the other barriers to a relationship. She's a good friend, but we wouldn't be a good fit.


The concern is, the experience of last weekend leaves me wondering if I'm suited for anyone, or if I'm not wired for it.



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01 Jul 2013, 2:35 pm

Doesn't sound to me like asexuality at all. It sounds like your (needlessly) ashamed of your base urges. You're going to need to get over that.



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01 Jul 2013, 3:25 pm

When you are masturbating, what do you think about?



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01 Jul 2013, 3:57 pm

You def don't sound asexual. Asexual would be no attraction. It sounds like you had a fantasy built up, and it wasn't what you thought, and then you had some strange thought that you were using her.

Consentual Sex isn't using people. Sex is animalistic, but so is eating, sleeping, and drinking water. It's the little enjoyments of life.



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01 Jul 2013, 4:05 pm

You can be asexual and masturbate.



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01 Jul 2013, 9:30 pm

It just seems like you're scared a bit of it. I'm the same.



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02 Jul 2013, 4:15 pm

That's not asexuality IMHO. Asexuals aren't necessarily repulsed by sex. Most just aren't attracted to it in the first place.