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12 Jul 2013, 3:14 pm

Steroids and other chemicals do for guys what plastic surgery does for girls. Just as you would be shocked at the millions and millions of women who have fake breasts, cheekbones, lips, etc... you would be shocked at the number of guys who take some kind of muscle enhancing drug.

A lot of women claim they don't like over-muscled men especially those on steroids, yet their reactions to those bodies say otherwise in general.

EVEN ON THIS FORUM, you see some users wow-ing (hint hint) an obviously chemical-socked male body, or posting shirtless of celebs whom their physiques cannot be obtained without going through any of those chemicals (yet the women think those are natural bodies).

It's disturbing.... however it does prove something: despite all of the denial and the beating-around-the-bush, physical appearance is the biggest factor when it comes to attracting a man/woman.


So ladies, why do you like the "fit" men on steroids/fat burner/chemicals? Did the porn mess up your minds that much too? :lol:



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12 Jul 2013, 3:26 pm

You don't have to be muscle bound to attract women, but it is an attention getter. Are you saying guys are only specifically attracted this? Are you going to say it doesn't attract your attention?

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12 Jul 2013, 3:32 pm

^ small pic, are her boobs fake? if yes, turn off.

And if she appears fake, no, I wouldn't wowing her.



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12 Jul 2013, 3:47 pm

Google found it for me, she's Jennifer Lee, she claims she lost load of weight through natural means and exercises.

Her boobs don't look natural to me, too symmetrical, but I can't say there's anything else fake, her muscles look normal and not steroided, her mild abs are ok, not like the fat-burner eating guys. Seriously, it's unfair to compare her physique to steroid-hulk guys.


But no, she's not a fap material for me, nor she even created a reaction for me.



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12 Jul 2013, 3:52 pm

If He-Man personified walked by, I'm not going to giggle and bat my eyelashes at him. Appreciation, yes. Throwing myself down and licking his toes, no. What's the difference? :shrug:

She could be natural, it looks like a pretty supportive top. I think she's hot. :lol:



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12 Jul 2013, 4:01 pm

Lol. A lot of men do like the excessively dieted, implant, lip injection woman, so yes there will be woman out there who are attracted to fake looking men too. Although, I really am not attracted to muscles that big. Too me, I feel scared of the man if he looks too strong. A healthy muscle tone attained from the gym and looks healthy is fine. I have been attracted to all types of men, from pretty overweight, toned, to very skinny. I have always found the most physically attractive thing on a man is his face anyway, and obviously his personality. To me, I am pretty picky on a guys personality, but I do not have a "type" physically.



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12 Jul 2013, 4:03 pm

But major,

it's really unfair to consider this:

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as the equivalent to this:

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and don't dare that you don't like the latter, I have spies that just saw you liking a very similar body :lol:

the former looks (aside of possibly fake boobs) more like swimmer/exercise body, the latter is the result of chemicals.

The latter should be compared to something like this:

http://steroidjunkie.com/wp-content/upl ... eroids.jpg

Disgusting.


Unless you're considering plastic surgery equivalent to steroid, like I did in my main post.



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12 Jul 2013, 4:14 pm

Like I said before, it's just one body type. Are you trying to state that men can't get women if they don't look like that?(or vice versa). You know that's not true. :scratch:



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12 Jul 2013, 4:17 pm

If you ask me, you're obsessing about this - a lack of hypertrophied muscles is not what's holding you back.
You can definitely get in shape without taking steroids, by the way, if you can let go of the idea that you have to compare yourself to bodybuilders. You're upholding a false dichotomy of "working out = steroids" and "not working out = healthy / natural".
Nobody is saying you have to work out, but you have to accept the consequences one way or another. It's silly to complain that most people find athletic (which is different from the bodybuilder type which most women don't like, in my estimation) people attractive - it's just a fact, similar to how most people will think a girl is more visually attractive with make-up than without.


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12 Jul 2013, 4:18 pm

MjrMajorMajor wrote:
Like I said before, it's just one body type. Are you trying to state that men can't get women if they don't look like that?(or vice versa). You know that's not true. :scratch:


muscular attractive man: can get 100's of women to date him
average guy: just gets lucky.



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12 Jul 2013, 4:20 pm

billiscool wrote:
muscular attractive man: can get 100's of women to date him
average guy: just gets lucky.


Another false dichotomy. You guys have too much black / white thinking going on.


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12 Jul 2013, 4:22 pm

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If you ask me, you're obsessing about this - a lack of hypertrophied muscles is not what's holding you back.
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hey hey hey..... I am totally happy with my body :lol: And yes, I am in shape (the HEALTHY type). Don't start psychoanalyze me, you don't even know how I look like.


What I have obsession about tho, is bothering some users :lol: and exposing double standards and thus.


And no, I have never claimed that it's what holding me, I posted a list about that in another thread: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf234980-0-15.html --> those what are really holding me back.

So again, don't be quick to psychoanalyze.


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Nobody is saying you have to work out, but you have to accept the consequences one way or another. It's silly to complain that most people find athletic people attractive -


but those men I am talking about are really not the real athletic type.

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it's just a fact, similar to how most people will think a girl is more visually attractive with make-up than without


No, it is not, make up can be removed instantly, steroids can't. And make-up don't have serious negative health impacts, as far as I know.

You can compare steroids/chemicals to silicon or to solarium tan, not to make up, that's just ridiculous.



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12 Jul 2013, 4:25 pm

LookTwice wrote:
billiscool wrote:
muscular attractive man: can get 100's of women to date him
average guy: just gets lucky.


Another false dichotomy. You guys have too much black / white thinking going on.


right,because all these average guys are getting the ladies left and right.
and all these straight,attractive,great bodies,actors,athletes men are just
failing with women.

even attractive gay men have straight women hanging around them.



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12 Jul 2013, 4:26 pm

billiscool wrote:
LookTwice wrote:
billiscool wrote:
muscular attractive man: can get 100's of women to date him
average guy: just gets lucky.


Another false dichotomy. You guys have too much black / white thinking going on.


right,because all these average guys are getting the ladies left and right.
and all these straight,attractive,great bodies,actors,athletes men are just
failing with women.

even attractive gay men have straight women hanging around them.


bill please, don't turn it to whining thread, stay on topic.



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12 Jul 2013, 4:31 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

What I have obsession about tho, is bothering some users :lol: and exposing double standards and thus.
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Where's the double standard? No one is dictating the type of woman you should be attracted to.



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12 Jul 2013, 4:35 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
billiscool wrote:
LookTwice wrote:
billiscool wrote:
muscular attractive man: can get 100's of women to date him
average guy: just gets lucky.


Another false dichotomy. You guys have too much black / white thinking going on.


right,because all these average guys are getting the ladies left and right.
and all these straight,attractive,great bodies,actors,athletes men are just
failing with women.

even attractive gay men have straight women hanging around them.


bill please, don't turn it to whining thread, stay on topic.

Agreed.



I do feeltht the double standard boo talks about exists but it is due to lack of knowledge. Like in the last thread where wok...I mean lazuli posted his body pic and some "I only eat healthy foods" phrase. He obviously isn't going to come out and say "I took many times the suggested aping of steroids for months to get this big" I just feel women don't really know much about the types of things men do to seem more attractive and the dangers involved. Are there guys that can get that big naturally? Sure, but it's a tiny ammount of all the guys that size that did it naturally.