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19 Jul 2014, 4:54 pm

I am sure you are an awesome guy. But, for them to want to get to know you well enough that they can discover this, go to www,ASKMEN.com for serious, professional [but free] advice



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20 Jul 2014, 11:17 am

There is tons of advice on this site. Some you might want to embrace while dismissing other parts of it.



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20 Jul 2014, 11:50 am

vickygleitz wrote:
There is tons of advice on this site. Some you might want to embrace while dismissing other parts of it.


Correction: Most you might want to dismiss, while embracing some of it. Most of the advice I've seen on there is pretty much useless.



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20 Jul 2014, 1:43 pm

Someone sifting through it might find some info that makes them more confident. One of my sons refers to it as his"bible." It has helped him meet [many] girls, start his own business , dress great, decorate his place and start his own business.I am keeping my mouth shut but am very much hoping that lower mid son will succeed in getting youngest son to read it. Oldest daughter [ our token NT child] and her best friend wish that all guys would read and study most of the advice.



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20 Jul 2014, 2:01 pm

thanks



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20 Jul 2014, 2:21 pm

i perused, read 5-6 articles. it strikes me as nothing more than Cosmo for dudes: how to buy the right products and adopt the right trends so people will think you're cool and hot chicks will want to sleep with you.

basically, pap.



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20 Jul 2014, 8:16 pm

fine. I already told everyone how it has helped one of my sons, and that my daughter who GREATLY LOVES MEN, wishes all men who want to be more comfortable around most women would read it. So, it wouldn't work for you, and that's okay because I suspect that most men looking for a long-term relationship are not looking for someone like you.



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20 Jul 2014, 8:45 pm

vickygleitz wrote:
fine. I already told everyone how it has helped one of my sons, and that my daughter who GREATLY LOVES MEN, wishes all men who want to be more comfortable around most women would read it. So, it wouldn't work for you, and that's okay because I suspect that most men looking for a long-term relationship are not looking for someone like you.


for someone who likes to talk about how much they help other autistics, you can be really mean when you want to be, vicky. that was a low blow and unnecessary--i wasn't insulting you, i just think the e-zine is a little lame. that is not a reflection on you. but you decided to take it personally and insult me. nice.



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20 Jul 2014, 9:04 pm

For once I'd like to see a thread in L&D that doesn't turn into a flame war. Please let this be that thread.



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20 Jul 2014, 10:28 pm

I stressed that my daughter loves men. by your hundreds of posts- and your lack of recent dating history- that seem to exhibit an enormous amount of anger towards men, you seem more than a little wary of them. Do you think you would make good relationship material with all of that rage? Do you think men would want to get involved with someone so angry? that is all I am saying. I truly hope you can get some much needed healing [though I honestly believe your "possee" is making it worse for you long term.]

I do not want a flame war. I want Autistic to work together to improve the lives of ALL of our people.



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20 Jul 2014, 10:43 pm

vickygleitz wrote:
I stressed that my daughter loves men. by your hundreds of posts- and your lack of recent dating history- that seem to exhibit an enormous amount of anger towards men, you seem more than a little wary of them. Do you think you would make good relationship material with all of that rage? Do you think men would want to get involved with someone so angry? that is all I am saying. I truly hope you can get some much needed healing [though I honestly believe your "possee" is making it worse for you long term.]

I do not want a flame war. I want Autistic to work together to improve the lives of ALL of our people.


you are aware that my best friend is a guy, right? if i hate men so much then why would i talk to one every day and hang out with one? wouldn't my "rage" be off-putting for him? he's pretty honest too, so i think if he were detecting rage at men from me he would let me know. yet he seems to feel pretty comfortable around me, and we rarely if ever argue about anything. in fact, my experience has been that men tend to be more comfortable around me than other women are. i've always found it easy to make friends with guys--women, on the other hand, not so easy. i've had many women tell me they find me intimidating (at least at first, until they get to know me and realise i'm just quiet when i don't know people very well). so yeah, i'm not sure where you've gotten this idea that i'm so ragey at dudes that i can't handle being around them. also, just because i admit that i haven't had sex or a LTR in 10 years, doesn't mean that the opportunity hasn't been there. i do, rarely, meet people, and yeah, some guys have shown interest. i just haven't met a guy that really captivated my interest in a long time, enough to make me seriously consider dating him.

i really don't believe for a second that you care about me or my healing. you said what you said to hurt my feelings, and you succeeded. i hope that gives you a warm glow, as i know people who say such things are looking for that reward of knowing the hurt struck home. well, there you go, enjoy your cruelty. it suits you. i previously thought you were a nice person that was truly trying to help people, if maybe in a misguided and misinformed sort of way. now i've seen your true face and i know better.



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20 Jul 2014, 11:09 pm

vickygleitz wrote:
fine. I already told everyone how it has helped one of my sons, and that my daughter who GREATLY LOVES MEN, wishes all men who want to be more comfortable around most women would read it. So, it wouldn't work for you, and that's okay because I suspect that most men looking for a long-term relationship are not looking for someone like you.


That's not cool, vicky.



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20 Jul 2014, 11:12 pm

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Let's try to keep this thread on topic, okay?

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20 Jul 2014, 11:16 pm

Back on the topic of askmen - I'm glad your kids got something from it, vicky, but I think starvingartist pegged it when she said 'Cosmo for dudes'. I mean...y'know, I read tons of Cosmo when I was a kid, it didn't hurt me. It's just pretty shallow stuff, and most of it was...I mean maybe there really is a thoroughly plastic guy out there who cares about this season's pouty lipstick trends and actually likes these Top Ten Ways to Let Him Know You Want Him. But I think if I tried that stuff in real life, people would ask if I was well.

askmen...I'd just say "don't put all your weight on it."



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20 Jul 2014, 11:27 pm

No,I have never tried to hurt you, and yes,I do care. And if I hurt your feelings I am terribly sorry. I also felt you were a good person w who is "stuck" [and I as an Autistic definitely understand "stuck" My "stuckness" takes the form of being unable to get over people who were in the hospital when I had my mastectomy, went with me for chem infussions and then spread a rumour that I faked breast cancer. And some people believed them. This was in a nudist resort where people saw the angry red scars and the drains and the hair all out and the lizard skin and they chose to believe them. A few people have asked me to write or speak about being an olderAutistic with advanced cancer. I cannot, Because when I think about what they did I cannot believe it. Hell,if I was young and single, I would not be anyone that should be dating either. I know that I am way too broken. but I want others to enjoy life, including romance.

There is so much still to me almost imposible and horrible things that happened because of this. Many lives have been terribly hurt. I mean savaged. That is one reason I am a late in life activist. If you seem to detect a problem with me towards NTs', well, hey, it's there. I cannot believe that Autistics are even capable of the evil I have been subjected to. I hate all of this nastiness. I just want to work with other Autistics so that our people can be happy and have less pain.



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20 Jul 2014, 11:27 pm

Ignore them it usually works and they eventually come to you. When you notice them they will ignore you, I know its odd but it works quite a bit, at least in bars anyway.


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