Heterosexual relationships are bad for.you.

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16 Sep 2025, 5:48 pm

WHAT?!?

Should I re-think getting married then?



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17 Sep 2025, 1:06 pm

A paywall....good.



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17 Sep 2025, 1:08 pm

Mikurotoro92 wrote:
WHAT?!?

Should I re-think getting married then?


Yes, propose to Kitty instead.



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17 Sep 2025, 1:32 pm

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Why heterosexual relationships are so bad for us, according to a sex researcher

Sexuality and gender researcher Jane Ward researched the history of heterosexuality and concluded that straight relationships are "tragic" because of their inherent inequality.

Through interviews and research for her book, Ward concluded that straight women bear the brunt of opposite-sex relationships.

This unequal burden has led to the physical and emotional mistreatment of women, rising divorce rates, and lackluster sex lives among straight people, Ward told Insider.

Since the pandemic began, there has been an uptick in reports of divorce and studies finding a rise in lackluster sex — mainly among straight couples.

These trends of heterosexual relationship crises aren't surprising to Jane Ward, a sexuality and gender professor at University of California Riverside and author of "The Tragedy of Heterosexuality."

"I think in some ways the pandemic is revealing the tragedy of heterosexuality to people who might not have otherwise paid attention to it," Ward told Insider.

Ward, a lesbian, has spent years researching the history of heterosexuality and its legacy. The result is a thorough academic account of all the ways the "straight" relationship dynamic restrains and hampers both men and women.

She feels sorry for straight people, especially straight women, who typically report some of the lowest sexual satisfaction in society, Ward told Insider. But she also feels sorry for straight men, who are pigeon-holed into toxic-masculine culture that teaches them they both need, and yet should also demean, women.

"It really looks like straight men and women don't like each other very much, that women spend so much time complaining about men, and we still have so much evidence of misogyny," or woman-hating behavior, said Ward of her findings. "From an LGBT perspective, [being straight] looks actually very tragic."

Straight women are the least likely to orgasm during sex
Ward interviewed almost 100 men, women, and non-binary people of varying sexual orientations about their thoughts on heterosexuality, and a common theme emerged: Straight women put straight men on a pedestal, even though it doesn't benefit them to do so.

"I find it depressing to see what my straight female friends put up with regarding treatment from men. I really sympathize with these women, but at the same time it makes me feel alienated from them. Our lives become so different when theirs revolves around attachment to a cruel, insensitive, self-centered, or simply boring man," a queer white female from Europe told Ward for her book.

One queer white female told Ward that she saw a post circulating among her straight friends on Facebook about "how men know when sex is over." Every man had commented "when I cum," and it shocked her.

"As a lesbian, I can't imagine stopping sex with my partner the minute I cum. It's kind of hilarious to think about! But of course it's also sad that this is apparently the reality for straight women," she told Ward.

Research backs up the anecdotes.

A 2018 study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior Ward cited in her book looked at orgasms differences in gay, bisexual, and straight men and women and found that straight women were the least likely to report orgasms during partnered sex. The majority of straight men in the study reported orgasming almost every time the had sex with a partner, and the other sexual orientations fell in the middle.

And though straight women often cite clitoral stimulation as a prerequisite for an orgasm, people are taught little about female sexual pleasure and how to achieve it. Instead, the focus remains on penetrative sex.

Rituals like weddings and gender reveals have resulted in literal disasters
Even joyous lexicons of straight culture have been shown to cause harm.

Just this year a gender-reveal party caused a California wildfire and firefighter death, and large weddings in Washington, Maine, and elsewhere led to coronavirus outbreaks and deaths.

Both weddings and gender reveals stem from the gender binary — the concept that there are only two genders, men and women — and the stereotypes that binary has instilled in virtually every aspect of our lives, from housework to career to sex.

"It's that straight culture is based in a presumption that men and women are really different kinds of people, that they want different things, that they have different interests, and that they are sort of opposite. And they come together sexually and romantically because opposites attract," Ward said of the gender binary, or idea that "man" and "woman" are the only two genders.

Heterosexual men are encouraged to objectify women and smother their own feelings
Similar to the gender-role constraints straight women face, Ward said masculine standards are suffocating straight men.

In her book, Ward wrote of the "misogyny paradox," which refers to boys' and mens' struggle to appreciate and respect women in a culture where they're also applauded and considered more masculine for hating and objectifying women.

Young men are also taught sex with women will make them manlier, but they aren't taught how to make that experience pleasurable, or even pleasant, for the women involved.

Then there's the issue of communicating needs and feelings, something that has been coded as a "feminine." Men, as a result, are subtly and explicitly encouraged not to open up emotionally, leaving their partners in the dark.

"Men and women are defaulting into these gender categories," Ward said.

"I think that if men could recognize that equity and feminism are actually really central to a healthy and happy relationship, if that's something they want, then they might be able to move further in that direction," said Ward.

It wasn't always this way

Through her research, Ward found that the concepts of heterosexuality and homosexuality came into existence in the 19th century. Before then, people didn't consider the gender or sex of the person they were having sex with as way to label themselves.

"Before then, people engaged in homosexual sex acts but it was just considered an act, not a type of person," that you had to label, Ward said. When a person had sex with the opposite sex it was for reproductive purposes, for example, while sex with the same sex was pleasure-based and not for reproduction.

But everything changed when Hungarian journalist Karl Maria Kertbeny coined the terms "heterosexual" and "homosexual" in the 1860s. Psychotherapists began to suggest heterosexuality was a superior "type" because it allowed for procreation, while homosexuality didn't have the same utility, BBC previously reported.

Thus a romanticized narrative of the gender binary, or idea that there are two genders of man and woman, was born. This story taught people that opposite-sex attraction, love, and family planning was the most natural way to do things, and it endures to this day in the form of straight rituals like the gender reveal party and lavish wedding ceremonies.


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17 Sep 2025, 1:34 pm

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A paywall....good.

I tried to fix that.


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17 Sep 2025, 6:50 pm

why relationships are bad.... from one person :roll:


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17 Sep 2025, 8:03 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
A paywall....good.


I was able to look at the article without having to pay though



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17 Sep 2025, 8:11 pm

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Mikurotoro92 wrote:
WHAT?!?

Should I re-think getting married then?


Yes, propose to Kitty instead.


Hahaha

Lol!! !



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18 Sep 2025, 7:06 am

Stereotypical, biased and just pathetic. That's what can I say 'bout this article.


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18 Sep 2025, 7:44 am

Hetzer wrote:
Stereotypical, biased and just pathetic. That's what can I say 'bout this article.

Let's elaborate a bit:
1. I hear same BS but inverted from the "men" side;
- That they do everything to please women
- That they're treated like trash in return
- And of course that all women are bad and it's the men that always are the victims of their boundless evil
2. Because every man / woman is a walking stereotype, no exceptions :roll:
3. Love is not all about sex, I will bloodey repeat it till me very last day
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Just this year a gender-reveal party caused a California wildfire and firefighter death, and large weddings in Washington, Maine, and elsewhere led to coronavirus outbreaks and deaths.

How "theme" of the party/event like this influence safety taken during it? An LGBT parade also can possibly do considerable damage. Should do a ban on these then? Or render events in general as illegal since they pose risk to surrounding?
5. Seeing a lesbian ranting 'bout heterosexual relationships for me is kinda like Windows user that has never seen Linux talking how terrible it is. Especially if they go with stereotypes they (very likely) are hatred of themselves. Very convincing, me say


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18 Sep 2025, 7:55 am

The article is very clickbaity and lacks nuance. I might read her book and see what other research she has to present. I suspect that the article is not doing justice to her work based on what I have read about it elsewhere.

According to the research, women disproportionately experience domestic violence in relationships. In the US, 1 in 4 women and 1 in 7 men experience severe physical violence, not that it isn’t all bad. Ward is probably addressing this and other inequalities in heterosexual relationships (in a macro sense) in her book.

https://www.thehotline.org/stakeholders ... tatistics/



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18 Sep 2025, 10:49 am

I struggle to read articles, but from what I gather here, it sounds like whoever wrote the article is saying that only heterosexuals get married and have children. Gay couples can have children too, believe it or not. And gay couples can get married.


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18 Sep 2025, 11:18 am

Tamaya wrote:
I struggle to read articles, but from what I gather here, it sounds like whoever wrote the article is saying that only heterosexuals get married and have children. Gay couples can have children too, believe it or not. And gay couples can get married.

It seems to me she is focusing mainly on the sexual aspect of these relationships.


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18 Sep 2025, 12:32 pm

Mikurotoro92 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
A paywall....good.


I was able to look at the article without having to pay though


That's unlucky.



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18 Sep 2025, 7:23 pm

MaxE wrote:
Tamaya wrote:
I struggle to read articles, but from what I gather here, it sounds like whoever wrote the article is saying that only heterosexuals get married and have children. Gay couples can have children too, believe it or not. And gay couples can get married.

It seems to me she is focusing mainly on the sexual aspect of these relationships.


Well, isn't it true that sex is the glue that binds heterosexual relationships together?

Sex is what creates the attachment between you and your partner!

And gay people CAN get married and have children like @Tamaya said!! !