Anyssa wrote:
Well I think gender roles are so stupid. why do people expect certain things from people. just because someone is a guy doesnt mean he always has to start the conversation or vise versa. and just people a woman is attractive doesnt mean she doesnt need to know how to start a conversation with a guy or should have people always trying to talk to her
If the guy is shy it's probably easy for a woman to get his attention even with poor social skills. Most socially passive straight guys seem to be like lambs when it comes to contacts with the opposite sex, they are easily led. I think it takes patience and a bit of force, a kick in the butt, to get those guys to start dating you, rather than good conversational skills. Social force is something many aspies are good at.
I come from a culture where men are extremely shy, in fact the women do most of the talking. There's this tradition that it's unmanly to talk but the women are like verbal machine guns to compensate for it, speaking rapidly and many times with poor social intelligence and no respect or feeling for who is interested in their gossip. Even NT women here are like that. I get the impression many married women carried their men to the altar without accepting no for an answer.