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Haliphron
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07 Dec 2008, 12:32 am

I just wanna say that I am SO f_cking tired of all the societal pressure on men to have a relationship! WHY cant we be allowed to be content being single?!?? That way we could feel more comfortable with ourselves and our lives and less desperate-and thus more attractive to women......*sigh* :x



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07 Dec 2008, 12:33 am

Haliphron wrote:
I just wanna say that I am SO f_cking tired of all the societal pressure on men to have a relationship! WHY cant we be allowed to be content being single?!?? That way we could feel more comfortable with ourselves and our lives and less desperate-and thus more attractive to women......*sigh* :x


Be content. What do their opinions really matter?


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07 Dec 2008, 12:36 am

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07 Dec 2008, 1:08 am

Haliphron wrote:
I just wanna say that I am SO f_cking tired of all the societal pressure on men to have a relationship! WHY cant we be allowed to be content being single?!?? That way we could feel more comfortable with ourselves and our lives and less desperate-and thus more attractive to women......*sigh* :x


I guess I have to agree, even though I'm one who actually wants a relationship (although loneliness is more of a factor than societal pressure). I don't consider myself desperate... if I were single for the rest of my life it wouldn't affect my capability to function in society, but there's pretty much nothing in the world that beats the feeling of a woman in my arms...



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07 Dec 2008, 1:11 am

I feel kinda the same way. I can't even have guy friends without people assuming we're an item. Sheesh. I want no one.



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07 Dec 2008, 1:33 am

Fnord wrote:
The only people whose opinions should matter in your life are those of your employer, yourself, and a jury of your peers.


*chuckle* Amusing... I like it. The last is humorous, and while I don't agree with the first one (probably why I'm self-employed twice-over and dreading looking for work when I move) it's still valid.


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07 Dec 2008, 1:52 am

Brook-lynn20 wrote:
I feel kinda the same way. I can't even have guy friends without people assuming we're an item. Sheesh. I want no one.


Now that I can understand 100%, since I have more female friends than male friends...



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07 Dec 2008, 1:52 am

makuranososhi wrote:
Be content. What do their opinions really matter?


Exactly. Women are meant to be seen (in the kitchen), and not heard.
*SARCASM TO THE MAX*

Seriously though, I agree with makuranososhi. Also, their incompatibility with you is their problem. In fact, statistically, there are more women than men - and are therefore fighting for your affection. Few girls are good for you, and those twitterpated emotions will not tell you which ones are.

Remember this: You get to choose them.



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07 Dec 2008, 1:58 am

Remember: The pickin' really skyrockets when you get old since men die sooner.



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07 Dec 2008, 2:49 am

You can either spend your time lamenting those you do not connect with, or expanding your world and continue seeking the people you do. We cannot control how others behave; we can only change our own course. If you're happy being single - then be single! I've have some great times being single; I've also had times when I was single that I was really alone and depressed. What makes you happy? Follow that, and bollocks to those who deign to believe they know what's best for you.


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07 Dec 2008, 2:50 am

Legato wrote:

Seriously though, I agree with makuranososhi. Also, their incompatibility with you is their problem. In fact, statistically, there are more women than men - and are therefore fighting for your affection. Few girls are good for you, and those twitterpated emotions will not tell you which ones are.

Remember this: You get to choose them.


WRONG! You've got it totally backwards Legato. Its the LADIES who get first choice, not the fellas :!: Thats the way the mating game works when people are free from arranged marriages.Now in the US Im told there are slightly more women than men but its NOT like men are in short supply. The ONLY men who really have a choice are ultra-high status men like rockstars, athletes, and playboys who have lots of women choosing them first.



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07 Dec 2008, 2:57 am

Haliphron - why do you believe it is one-sided? IMHO, relationships should come from mutual attractions, so a strict reliance on one or the other is absurd. As for societal expectation, my ex-fiance proposed to me - I'm not arguing that women have choice, but to think one or the other has priority or primacy is not something I agree with or understand.


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07 Dec 2008, 3:13 am

women have tried to be the choosers since millenia ago. They still pretty much decide who they'll attach to, outside of arranged marriages. One thing I noticed from going to clubs when I was single (instead of chatting up girls and learning to dance) is that none of the women would move to the floor until they had a choice of men.

Still, there's a lot to life that includes the female sex. It isn't perfect, but it's a lot less lonely.



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07 Dec 2008, 3:24 am

Haliphron wrote:
Legato wrote:

Seriously though, I agree with makuranososhi. Also, their incompatibility with you is their problem. In fact, statistically, there are more women than men - and are therefore fighting for your affection. Few girls are good for you, and those twitterpated emotions will not tell you which ones are.

Remember this: You get to choose them.


WRONG! You've got it totally backwards Legato. Its the LADIES who get first choice, not the fellas :!: Thats the way the mating game works when people are free from arranged marriages.Now in the US Im told there are slightly more women than men but its NOT like men are in short supply. The ONLY men who really have a choice are ultra-high status men like rockstars, athletes, and playboys who have lots of women choosing them first.


My post you quoted was more ideological than realistic. Like makuranososhi said, it goes both ways of course. Act as if you are choosing between them if nothing else, because in reality - there are always more fish in the sea to choose from.

Also, the kind of women chasing after rockstars, etc, are not the kind of women worth wasting anything but sex on.



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07 Dec 2008, 4:31 am

makuranososhi wrote:
Haliphron - why do you believe it is one-sided? IMHO, relationships should come from mutual attractions, so a strict reliance on one or the other is absurd. As for societal expectation, my ex-fiance proposed to me - I'm not arguing that women have choice, but to think one or the other has priority or primacy is not something I agree with or understand.


Not entirely makuranososhi, however, its pretty clear to me that men and women are NOT on equal footing as far as the mating game is concerned. I have no doubt this is biological rather than societal; please do remember that we ARE biological beings and we DO indeed have instincts and intrinsic drives that transcend cultures. Its not that men dont get to choose at all as much as it is that women have the FIRST pick , and then the man can choose to accept or reject. Are you aware that there has been research, quite a lot of it in fact, on the dynamics of human sexual selection so this isnt just from my own experience but scientifically aquired knowledge? :wink: There's an excellent program series that was aired on TLC some years ago called The Human Sexes which discusses this issue. I strongly recommend you view it sometime. But What is it about the application of reductionism to human behaviour that you object to so much?



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07 Dec 2008, 5:25 am

I am single and this guy that is high profile, successful, rich and only two years older really wants me, sigh, I am not interested.
I wanna an aspie bf. I have never had an aspie bf or some one and thats all I want. Some one similar to me and sigh, there is none avialable. I dont know any aspies and it leaves me surrounded by NT men that i am not feeling a strong connection to.