Freaking out about "small talk"
Well, I usually pay attention what people say to each other in a small talk in the movies. (there you can find a lot of that stuff). My recent acquisition is saying "Well, that's good." ( with the right intonation which I cannot present here) Now whenever people tell mt" I passed an exam, I bought a new shoes... .. and my sister is pregnant )) and my brother is feeling better ... )). That's what I say now:
Well, that's good!. ![]()
a) Never talked about anything interesting. They only discussed someone's new clothes or ex boyfriend. Still the same. If you mention something more interesting they gaze at you as if you are insane and they do that with a very dumb face. Then they continue their ret*d conversation. I felt so lonely, I didn't even want to have friends if the conversation was on this level and so boring. This had the result I was a loner who was always drawing mazes, other things, solving Rubik's Cube and mostly reading.
b) Had such unfunny jokes. They were and are so ret*d, I can't seem to be able to laugh. Very predictable jokes and they still had fun for minutes.
c) Have and had an enormous lack of logics. Logically seen, almost everything people say is absolute nonsense, especially logically seen. They don't even notice it.
d) Had and have an extremely low level of conversation. They say the most stupid things, and never say something intelligent. REALLY dumb. Never something rational.
I can only advice you just to say your lines; That's what I do. Don't talk to them too much, or else it will become too much for you. Try to be interested or pretend to be.
Good luck
You will get over it, remember my word! The same thing was my problem when I was in high school - damb conversation and anything beyond new shoes is something freaky.
That is absolutely ok. You gonna go to a college or university. You gonna meet people of more intelligence and more broad interests. You will meet more people you actually think. Especially if you go to study to a place of your interest (not just for a profession of a sole practical value but of no interest to you).
That is absolutely ok. You gonna go to a college or university. You gonna meet people of more intelligence and more broad interests. You will meet more people you actually think. Especially if you go to study to a place of your interest (not just for a profession of a sole practical value but of no interest to you).
yeah.... I never would have gone to be evaluated if I hadn't switched from math to education. I had absolutely no problems in math.
I'm married too and have AS. You guys can talk about anything under the sun, seriously try it. A lot of topics will work great even if you don't actually know anything about it. My guy is a scientist type, I asked him the other day how come it's foggy instead of raining? One tangent led to another and we talked for a good half hour.
It's like taking a bike ride together with no destination (that's the key) and taking turns picking a direction, you cover a lot of ground.
It really works me into a panic in no time flat when I'm walking around the office and pass by people I know, and they say "Hi/Good Morning/How ya doing."
I'll admit, I'd feel more isolated if they didn't. But when someone greets me like that it sends shocks through me, I'm crawling in my skin, I'm upset or angry.
I've trainned myself to handle this better, and I make sure that I greet many folks first. But it still feel awkward and unatural. There's always a nag in the back of my mind that I'm faking it. And I am.
So many people have mistaken me for being rude through my life. I've always tried to advocate that some people are "just quiet or shy, which is easily mistaken for being stuck-up or rude."
I'll admit, I'd feel more isolated if they didn't. But when someone greets me like that it sends shocks through me, I'm crawling in my skin, I'm upset or angry.
I've trainned myself to handle this better, and I make sure that I greet many folks first. But it still feel awkward and unatural. There's always a nag in the back of my mind that I'm faking it. And I am.
So many people have mistaken me for being rude through my life. I've always tried to advocate that some people are "just quiet or shy, which is easily mistaken for being stuck-up or rude."
well I just don't know what to do when the conversation deviates from the norm. Like this one guy was walking buy me and he said "Hey I saw you at the gas station yesterday" and the only thing I could think of to say was "hi how are you?"
I'll admit, I'd feel more isolated if they didn't. But when someone greets me like that it sends shocks through me, I'm crawling in my skin, I'm upset or angry.
I've trainned myself to handle this better, and I make sure that I greet many folks first. But it still feel awkward and unatural. There's always a nag in the back of my mind that I'm faking it. And I am.
So many people have mistaken me for being rude through my life. I've always tried to advocate that some people are "just quiet or shy, which is easily mistaken for being stuck-up or rude."
well I just don't know what to do when the conversation deviates from the norm. Like this one guy was walking buy me and he said "Hey I saw you at the gas station yesterday" and the only thing I could think of to say was "hi how are you?"
I would have said "Oh, really?"
I'll admit, I'd feel more isolated if they didn't. But when someone greets me like that it sends shocks through me, I'm crawling in my skin, I'm upset or angry.
I've trainned myself to handle this better, and I make sure that I greet many folks first. But it still feel awkward and unatural. There's always a nag in the back of my mind that I'm faking it. And I am.
So many people have mistaken me for being rude through my life. I've always tried to advocate that some people are "just quiet or shy, which is easily mistaken for being stuck-up or rude."
Everyone is faking it, it is people's duty. Just like going to work. This is a sort of agressiveness in people when they fake smiles and make these damb greetings. Try to be agressive too. It is just like any other action.. Well, like getting up and having lunch.. Just an action, not an emotion or anything. Be agressive, be sharp. Just give a short but 32 teeth smile to anyone especially those you dislike. Return this fake greeting. And you are done. Just reflect whatever they give you - and you are even with them. Just get yourself trained to pronounce thing with a degree of artificial friendliness, yet without an obvious mocking.
Do not explain that you are shy or quiet or whatever. Nobody really cares.
[/quote]well I just don't know what to do when the conversation deviates from the norm. Like this one guy was walking buy me and he said "Hey I saw you at the gas station yesterday" and the only thing I could think of to say was "hi how are you?"[/quote]
I hear that. When that happens to me, when I get 'cornered' with some conversation like that, I feel as though the person has just terribly offended me; similar to when I make off-color or inappropriate remarks that other people don't care for. I have trouble replying with anything more that "oh yeah" or even just "oh."
People are fundamentally vain. Ask them random questions about themselves. Where you do live? Do you like it there? What do you do for a living? What did you do last weekend? You don't have to actually be interested, just to feign interest. Most people love to talk about themselves; they're just waiting for someone to give them opportunity or permission.
Words matter less than you think. Timothy Leary said, "90% of human communication is: 'I'm still here. Are you still there?'". Most folks are dancing a ritual dance where words are ancillary; the other person simply wants you to acknowledge their existence with eye contact and other clues that you're paying attention to them. This may not help you on what to say, but it relieves some of the pressure to come up with something significant or clever.
Smile. It seems stupid, but it makes all the difference. Bonus points for smiling not just with your mouth, but your whole face. Humans are natural mimics: if you smile, they will tend to smile too. Your tone of voice also tends to change while you're smiling, and people will pick up on it. Practice in the mirror if you need to (I certainly have).
Engage their interests, or find common ground. There are also no hard and fast rules which demand you talk about the weather or the local sports team. Ask a few small-talk-y questions to get an idea of what they're into ("What do you do for a living?", "What do you do for fun?", "See any good movies lately?"), and then probe for details, especially if it's something you can relate to. As soon as you can fixate on a topic which you are both interested in, uncomfortable small talk ends and a real conversation with actual ideas begins.
It helps to have an "out". Even among regular folks, small talk doesn't always go very well. Having a pre-planned escape route out of awkward moments makes it easier to take the plunge in the first place. Cell phones are tops for this: In mid-sentence, stop abruptly as if the vibrate function is going off. Take it out of your pocket, glance at it, and say "I'm sorry, I really have to take this. Excuse me, please." Glancing at your watch and pretending to have to be someplace is also an oldie but a goodie.
Just say "hi". If you're approaching a stranger, it's actually perfectly acceptable to just walk up to somebody and say, "Hi, I'm _____. What's your name?", possibly following up with other random probing questions. It seems bizarre, but this is really very normal behavior, and almost nobody will think you odd for it.
Everybody's lying (at least a little bit), and everybody's insecure. Most people are too busy worrying about how they look to you, and whether you see through their mask or not, to probe very deeply into you. You'll feel like you're under a microscope, but you're usually not. Let the other party know that you're okay with them, and almost by reflex, they'll be okay with you.
Loving this site, I wish I'd known about years ago.
Yeah ditto!
Those are some really good points, and I'd like to add one that alluded me for years: When someone says "Hi, how are you?" 90% of the time they're not actually asking how you are. The standard response is "Fine thanks, how are you?" and its ok to use that a lot of the time. If they actually look like they want a conversation (body turned toward you and they're not moving away and there's eye contact) or if they're closer friends/family you can tell the truth and say how you really are - if you want to talk about yourself.
A question:
Is it common in the US or wherever you guys are from, to ask about hobbies, sparetime, what people do for fun etc. as smalltalk questions?
In Denmark it's usually just about what you do for a living, or studying. I wish people would begin to ask about spare time, hobbies and other things instead. Or just sometimes. It's boring always to get the same row of questions about the same thing. Especially if eg. 3 people ask you the same questions about the same thing short time after each other. The third time I'll usually go almost mute and just think: "oh no, not again, but how do I say it in a nice way, or, hmm....."
Is it common in the US or wherever you guys are from, to ask about hobbies, sparetime, what people do for fun etc. as smalltalk questions?
In Denmark it's usually just about what you do for a living, or studying. I wish people would begin to ask about spare time, hobbies and other things instead. Or just sometimes. It's boring always to get the same row of questions about the same thing. Especially if eg. 3 people ask you the same questions about the same thing short time after each other. The third time I'll usually go almost mute and just think: "oh no, not again, but how do I say it in a nice way, or, hmm....."
I think sometimes if its someone you have never met. or you want to get to know, you ask them what they are interested in. Which for me (math and physics) is a conversation killer. So I say sewing (which I haven't done in 2-3 years) or photography.
I hate small talk with a passion, let me actually talk to you, if i want a conversation filler I'd rather say umm, hmmm, uhh, or something along those lines...
As for me, I am slowly working on a list of "standard responses", unfortunatly, the only one I really use is "I'm good, you?" followed by a lot of panic, and would you either say something insightful, or just leave me alone. I don't care about your dog, unless their is something to be said about your dog more than "the dog is fine". I don't want to hear about your day that is relativly the same day after day. I want something that will be insightful or invigorating, something that will bring spice into a conversation. And that is why I hated going to a school in an area full of hardcore "I want to f*** up my own life" gangster kids, and a select few "normal" people, and of that select few, an even smaller few is the group I could actually be interested in, simply because we were all techs. Then university happened, and I was like "YES, I'm finally amoung people I can have an intelligent conversation with"... then I found out that they still wanted to small talk and was like wtf..... After, I found another group that was like me and were all somewhat techs and gamers, and also started using the file sharing network, which has its own chatroom. That chatroom is amazing, simply because I can let other people do all the small talking, while I get involved with something deeper, and that worked well for me. I even went to the file sharing network's sushi dinner, and didn't feel awkward!! ! Mostly because we all somewhat knew each other, plus I was at a table with 5 others, and small talk happened so fast, I could just ignore it and again wait till deeper conversation happened.... Then the greatest thing ever: the notoriously bad customer service gave us all something to commonly complain about! That night was amazing, for something social, and I really don't like being in social situations, I could never have felt more comfortable.... even with people I had only met breifly online.

